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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 22 2013 11:25 a.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Well? Utah State could have beat Notre Dame, Texas, Wisconson, Southern Cal, and UCLA.

How did their recruiting class compare to those? Chuckie Keeton vs Jake Heaps?

Proud Ute
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Guess Brandon had to hurry and get this article out before the commits officially bailed on the coogs and he'd have to be even more creative on the spin.
At least now he can still list them.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

Proud Ute

Coaching changes are commonplace.

Despite your frantic and desperate wishes, BYU isn't the least bit worried that a bunch of recruits are going to bail because of a couple of coaching changes. As long as competent coaches are brought in the replace the departing coaches, the vast majority of recruits won't even care.

If I were U, I'd be more worried about recruits bailing on the Utes because they aren't good enough to play in a bowl anymore.

Cool Cat Cosmo
Payson, UT

BYU has often found ways to make "average" recruits into superior ones with high output and moderate success. And seeing as they have high standards with non-football related things, I think that is about the best they can expect. Here's to a good year for all our football teams in the state!

eagle
Provo, UT

Did the Y recruit any kickers? I hate those dreaded words by the announcer: "And now walks out the walk-on freshman kicker..." And then clank or shank...Great programs seem to invest a scholarship on a punter, snapper, holder and kicker and not just hope it all works out...

Jefe-Ute
SLC, UT

I think we can all see the impact that improved recruiting (3, 4, and 5 star recruits) in the fact that in the last 11 years, Utah is 8-11 against BYU with 3 consecutive wins. I do agree that the star rankings aren't everything. ESPN, Rivals, and Scout can't even agree on star rankings. However, you can measure speed, pass %, # of catches per targets, # tackles per game, etc. I didn't want to see or admit in the recruiting system with Utah beating big name schools in the BCS, but the last 2 years have shown that recruiting does matter and a team needs depth. BYU qualified for a bowl game because they play crappy teams for half the season.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

I feel sorry fo Alabama. They still think they can win with highly rated recruits. What do they know? I agree with Bronco's strategy. If you can't sign them, and won't play them, and they won't field punts in practice,why recruit them. Seven wins is pretty good even if is against teams with losing records...someone has to beat'm.

Y Grad Pumping Gas
Beaver, UT

I can see that its true that Bronco doesn't care for the Star rankings, he destroys those that are ranked.

So much for "Band of Brothers"

Next seasons T-shirt slogan for the walk on's; "A Star is Born"

FT
salt lake city, UT

The signing class of 2013 is the graduation class of 2023 at BYU. That's way too far down the road to be making assessments of these fine, young men.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

U grad (wishing he were a Y grad) pumping gas

"Seven wins is pretty good even if is against teams with losing records...someone has to beat'm."

Tell that to the Utes, who haven't beaten a PAC 10.2 team with a winning record since joining the conference.

btw, BYU had 8 wins last season, including versus a Top 25 team, and a team that beat the Trojans in the Sun Bowl.

Who did U beat in your bowl game?

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Blah, blah, blah. It's so difficult to get too excited at all about Cougs recruits. Few of us will remember few of these kids until many of them return from their mission.

byufan1993
Provo, , UT

So. Cal Reader

"Blah, blah, blah. It's so difficult to get too excited at all about Cougs recruits. Few of us will remember few of these kids until many of them return from their mission."

Last I checked nobody was forcing you to read the article. So if it doesn't interest you, you don't have to click on it!

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

BYU's recruiting class is usually ranked somewhere between 40 - 60, and yet the football team is typically ranked in the Top 25 as long as Crowton is not the coach and Nelson is not the QB.

With all the missionaries, it's really almost impossible to rank the recruiting class. A better reflection would be the incoming players, whether they are coming from HS or missions and exclude HS players who are headed directly on a mission.

The star system has many limitations, including a bias against kids from smaller schools (like Hoffman). And a bias for overall good teams (take Kasen Williams off Jake Heaps high school team and Heaps would not have been 5 star).

BYU's current TE crop were as highly rated as any in school history, yet they have not come close to performing like some other TEs. Quezada was higher ranked than Jamaal Williams, but I'd take Williams. And the list goes on.

WON84
PLANO, TX

"Utes Fan

Salt Lake City, UT"

Or they could improve their coaching. Boise generally doesn't recruit as well as either school but, I'd say nearly every team they've had for the past 10 years has been better than what BYU or Utah put forth.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

Four and five star recruits are not the issue...the issue is whether or not Robert Anae has garnered enough insight from his tenure under Stoops and Rodreguez while down in Arizona to justify rehiring him... or more importantly to offset his play calling predictability. And why people...
does BYU waste the talents of someone like Robbie Boscoe on the women's golf team!!!

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Re: byufan1993. I gotcha. I understand I'm at liberty whether or not to read an article. That's not my point. My point is how can we get excited about the Cougs' commitments when very few will have any immediate impact. I don't think I'm alone when I say few of us will recall many of these kids 2/3 years down the road after their missions.

coleman51
Orem, UT

I think everyone is missing the point about the star system in college football and the lack of heavily recruited players wanting to play for BYU. While it is true that BYU has had players that weren't heavily recruited that became stars, it is more the exception than the rule. What this tells me is that BYU is not the place top players want to go. Obviously, being an independent will eventually hurt BYU as far as recruiting because most good players want to play on a team in a BCS league. Mendenhall must know that he won't be able to compete with BCS schools in recruiting top players, so he has taken the attitude that it doesn't matter. However, that will only play out for so long. If we don't attach ourselves to a BCS league soon, our recruiting will be very mediocre in the future. As much as we want our teams to win, good players will stay away from BYU until we become part of a BCS league.

Solomon the Wise
Alpine, UT

So. Cal Reader

"how can we get excited about the Cougs' commitments when very few will have any immediate impact. I don't think I'm alone when I say few of us will recall many of these kids 2/3 years down the road after their missions."

It's called long-term satisfaction versus instant gratification.

BYU's basketball team missed Tyler Haws while he was gone, but now he's back and we get to enjoy his court skills for the next three years.

The same is true for the majority of BYU athletes and will be even more so with missionaries now leaving right after high school and not even appearing on a BYU roster for two or three years.

In some ways it's like re-discovering a Christmas present stuffed in that back of a closet - we get to enjoy a practically new gift all over again.

Austin Collie was such a gift. Tanner Mangum may be such a gift in a couple of years.

Ronald Uharriet
SWun City, Ca.

“ he doesn’t care a whit about star rankings, national and local evaluations from the media, or even the amount or quality of offers assigned to high school and junior college prospects”.

Yes, we understand that. He has proven to be a man of his word. (Ben Olson/Jake Heaps)
too bad.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

@swoop

You fail to point out that 5 of your 8 wins came against teams that were in ESPN's bottom 10 in all of college football (yes, the bottom 120-129 in all D-1 football). And, I'll answer your question about the U with a more relevant question: How did the Y do against the U last year? Or the year before? Or the year before? Or over the past 10 years? Or over their entire history?

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