"BYU did not play the high school teams of Willamette and College of
Personally, I would still rather see Winder play, yes, he is weak offensively,
but at least defensively they would be able to stop the dribble penetration
RE: motorbike"25 wins as a member of the WCC is really not that
impressive - it's pretty similar to 18 wins for a team in a real
conference."BYU was only in the WCC one of the last five
years--last year when the conference sent three schools to the NCAA tournament.
Getting 25 wins as a member of the WCC last season was impressive. Prior to 2012
BYU was a member of the MWC, another conference that has been very impressive in
the last few years (which is what my post was about). An argument can be made
that both the WCC and MWC have been stronger than multiple BCS conferences
(including the PAC10/12) in the last few years, so yes, getting 25 wins/season
in those conferences is impressive. BTW, I never said anything about
football--I agree that 10 wins is not that impressive against lesser
competition--but try to stick to what I did say. I know that is hard or
impossible for a troll to do but give it a try.
TrueBlueStop confusing motorbike with actual results.If
he thinks that placing two teams in the NCAA tournament makes that PAC stronger
than a conference that placed three teams in the tournament, who are we to
argue?One day he and his hilltop friends might start grasping the
fact that labels don't mean anything; it's actual results that count.
@motorscooter"25 wins as a member of the WCC is really not that
impressive - it's pretty similar to 18 wins for a team in a real
conference."NCAA Tournament Teams Last SeasonWCC - 3PAC - 2Face it, the PAC was pretty weak last season, but from a
Utah fan's perspective, it must have seemed like the Big East West.btw, when do we start striking Utah's MWC and WAC records from the
books? Obviously, nothing that Utah accomplished before joining a "real"
conference should count, at least according to our jealous little friends up
motorbike"One day you and your friends might start grasping the
fact that half of the teams in the country could pull off 25 win basketball
seasons and 10 win football seasons if they played the same competition BYU is
playing."LOL at our little troll friend and his ridiculously
silly hyperbole.If half the teams in the country could finish with
10+ wins if they played BYU's schedule, how come Utah only has SIX such
seasons, while BYU has SIXTEEN? Except for the last couple of
seasons, Utah and BYU have played similar schedules since 1922!If
25+ win basketball seasons are such a piece of cake, why has Utah only had one
such season in the last 8 years?The simple truth is, Utah football
and basketball have been such disasters since entering the PAC 12, that Utah
fans are desperately searching for any excuse they can find to justify their own
ineptness.The Utes haven't won an NCAA tournament game in
almost a decade. Sorry to break it to you, but Utah is a has been whose glory
days are quickly fading into the distant past.
@Wiscougarfan"Only one of those teams has 25 wins each of the
last five seasons."This is such a ridiculous stat that cougar
fans like yourself just love to use (for both basketball and football). One day
you and your friends might start grasping the fact that half of the teams in the
country could pull off 25 win basketball seasons and 10 win football seasons if
they played the same competition BYU is playing.Don't get me
wrong, you can only play and beat what's put in front of you, but 25 wins
as a member of the WCC is really not that impressive - it's pretty similar
to 18 wins for a team in a real conference. That's the truth whether you
and your friends want to believe it or not.
Chris B"Two powerhouses in our state today. UCLA and
Pepperdine."Ken Pomeroy ranks Pepperdine #199, obviously not a
powerhouse, but better than #204 Cal St Northridge and much better than #239 Sac
St, two teams Utah LOST to AT HOME.
dumprakeZystra has been up and down this season, but he was one of
the key players in BYU's comeback win at USF.Brock also had
good games against Notre Dame and CS Northridge, but he does need to step up his
game if BYU is going to have a decent chance of beating Gonzaga, SMC, and Santa
Hopefully this will be a nice tune up to get us ready for Santa Clara. I'm
hoping Zylsta, Carlina and Sharp will continue their improved play and Davies
needs to stay out of foul trouble.Chris B - BYU will likely add two
more W's this week, while Utah adds to the loss column and battles with USC
for bragging rights at the bottom of the PAC. U see, it's not who you play
it's whether U win or lose. BYU did not play the high school teams of
Willamette and College of Idaho.
Chris B., one of BYU's biggest fans, is continually reminding us not to
dwell in the past. So let me throw out a few interesting statistics regarding
the four teams playing in Utah tonight (two from California, two from Utah).1. Only one of those teams has gone to the NCAA tournament each of the last
five seasons(another one has been three times, while another has been once).
2. Only one of those teams has 25 wins each of the last five seasons. In
fact, only one of the teams has even 15 wins each of the last five seasons.3. Only one of those teams averages more than 10,000 fans at home games (they
averaged 18k last season), while the second highest attendance is 10,000 fans
less 4. Only one of those teams has nearly as many trolls commenting on
their discussion boards as actual fans. Chris B, I'd love to hear
your guesses at which team I'm talking about.
CB,UCLA doesn't have to go out of the PAC12 to schedule a patsy.
Yes Chris B,The difference is one of those powerhouses will go home with a
loss and the other well I hope they don't go home too overinflated by
beating a mediocre team. Good luck though and nice try at a slight. We could
look at the total national titles of the state and realize the one team coming
in tonight probably outdoes the entire state. But hey good luck out there and I
hope your defense can finally pull one off.
Two powerhouses in our state today. UCLA and Pepperdine.I think they combine for like 20 national titles! As a side note,
UCLA and byu also combine for 20 national titles.Lucky to have such
storied programs in our state tonight
Interesting that this article focuses, and praises, Brock Zylstra. At the
beginning of the season I had hope for Zylstra, but of all the players on the
team, he is the most disappointing, I have little confidence in him. Other
players have stepped up, he has stepped down. For a guy who is supposedly a
shooter, he is just awful; and a one game success does not nullify his history
this season. If Zylstra and others (Carlino, Austin, Delgado, Ambrosino, etc) do
not start playing better, shooting better, and maintain some consistency, this
team will not go dancing this year.