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Published: Thursday, Jan. 10 2013 8:16 a.m. MST

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dumprake
Washington, UT

Interesting that this article focuses, and praises, Brock Zylstra. At the beginning of the season I had hope for Zylstra, but of all the players on the team, he is the most disappointing, I have little confidence in him. Other players have stepped up, he has stepped down. For a guy who is supposedly a shooter, he is just awful; and a one game success does not nullify his history this season. If Zylstra and others (Carlino, Austin, Delgado, Ambrosino, etc) do not start playing better, shooting better, and maintain some consistency, this team will not go dancing this year.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Two powerhouses in our state today.

UCLA and Pepperdine.

I think they combine for like 20 national titles!

As a side note, UCLA and byu also combine for 20 national titles.

Lucky to have such storied programs in our state tonight

Marine1
Apollo Beach, FL

Yes Chris B,
The difference is one of those powerhouses will go home with a loss and the other well I hope they don't go home too overinflated by beating a mediocre team. Good luck though and nice try at a slight. We could look at the total national titles of the state and realize the one team coming in tonight probably outdoes the entire state. But hey good luck out there and I hope your defense can finally pull one off.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

CB,
UCLA doesn't have to go out of the PAC12 to schedule a patsy.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

Chris B., one of BYU's biggest fans, is continually reminding us not to dwell in the past. So let me throw out a few interesting statistics regarding the four teams playing in Utah tonight (two from California, two from Utah).
1. Only one of those teams has gone to the NCAA tournament each of the last five seasons(another one has been three times, while another has been once).
2. Only one of those teams has 25 wins each of the last five seasons. In fact, only one of the teams has even 15 wins each of the last five seasons.
3. Only one of those teams averages more than 10,000 fans at home games (they averaged 18k last season), while the second highest attendance is 10,000 fans less
4. Only one of those teams has nearly as many trolls commenting on their discussion boards as actual fans.
Chris B, I'd love to hear your guesses at which team I'm talking about.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Hopefully this will be a nice tune up to get us ready for Santa Clara. I'm hoping Zylsta, Carlina and Sharp will continue their improved play and Davies needs to stay out of foul trouble.

Chris B - BYU will likely add two more W's this week, while Utah adds to the loss column and battles with USC for bragging rights at the bottom of the PAC. U see, it's not who you play it's whether U win or lose. BYU did not play the high school teams of Willamette and College of Idaho.

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

dumprake

Zystra has been up and down this season, but he was one of the key players in BYU's comeback win at USF.

Brock also had good games against Notre Dame and CS Northridge, but he does need to step up his game if BYU is going to have a decent chance of beating Gonzaga, SMC, and Santa Clara.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Chris B

"Two powerhouses in our state today. UCLA and Pepperdine."

Ken Pomeroy ranks Pepperdine #199, obviously not a powerhouse, but better than #204 Cal St Northridge and much better than #239 Sac St, two teams Utah LOST to AT HOME.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Wiscougarfan

"Only one of those teams has 25 wins each of the last five seasons."

This is such a ridiculous stat that cougar fans like yourself just love to use (for both basketball and football). One day you and your friends might start grasping the fact that half of the teams in the country could pull off 25 win basketball seasons and 10 win football seasons if they played the same competition BYU is playing.

Don't get me wrong, you can only play and beat what's put in front of you, but 25 wins as a member of the WCC is really not that impressive - it's pretty similar to 18 wins for a team in a real conference. That's the truth whether you and your friends want to believe it or not.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

motorbike

"One day you and your friends might start grasping the fact that half of the teams in the country could pull off 25 win basketball seasons and 10 win football seasons if they played the same competition BYU is playing."

LOL at our little troll friend and his ridiculously silly hyperbole.

If half the teams in the country could finish with 10+ wins if they played BYU's schedule, how come Utah only has SIX such seasons, while BYU has SIXTEEN?

Except for the last couple of seasons, Utah and BYU have played similar schedules since 1922!

If 25+ win basketball seasons are such a piece of cake, why has Utah only had one such season in the last 8 years?

The simple truth is, Utah football and basketball have been such disasters since entering the PAC 12, that Utah fans are desperately searching for any excuse they can find to justify their own ineptness.

The Utes haven't won an NCAA tournament game in almost a decade. Sorry to break it to you, but Utah is a has been whose glory days are quickly fading into the distant past.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

@motorscooter

"25 wins as a member of the WCC is really not that impressive - it's pretty similar to 18 wins for a team in a real conference."

NCAA Tournament Teams Last Season
WCC - 3
PAC - 2

Face it, the PAC was pretty weak last season, but from a Utah fan's perspective, it must have seemed like the Big East West.

btw, when do we start striking Utah's MWC and WAC records from the books? Obviously, nothing that Utah accomplished before joining a "real" conference should count, at least according to our jealous little friends up north.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

TrueBlue

Stop confusing motorbike with actual results.

If he thinks that placing two teams in the NCAA tournament makes that PAC stronger than a conference that placed three teams in the tournament, who are we to argue?

One day he and his hilltop friends might start grasping the fact that labels don't mean anything; it's actual results that count.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: motorbike

"25 wins as a member of the WCC is really not that impressive - it's pretty similar to 18 wins for a team in a real conference."

BYU was only in the WCC one of the last five years--last year when the conference sent three schools to the NCAA tournament. Getting 25 wins as a member of the WCC last season was impressive. Prior to 2012 BYU was a member of the MWC, another conference that has been very impressive in the last few years (which is what my post was about). An argument can be made that both the WCC and MWC have been stronger than multiple BCS conferences (including the PAC10/12) in the last few years, so yes, getting 25 wins/season in those conferences is impressive.

BTW, I never said anything about football--I agree that 10 wins is not that impressive against lesser competition--but try to stick to what I did say. I know that is hard or impossible for a troll to do but give it a try.

Downtownchrisbrown
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Personally, I would still rather see Winder play, yes, he is weak offensively, but at least defensively they would be able to stop the dribble penetration

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"BYU did not play the high school teams of Willamette and College of Idaho."

Fail.

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