Comments about ‘Quentin Tarantino and his films are part of the problem’

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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 9 2013 6:45 p.m. MST

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Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

Tarantino is part o the problem. Everything we consume effects us somehow.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Did Tarantino hit the editor's dog with his car? There are plenty of directors who make violent films. Why are you focusing on him? Is it easier to pretend that Newtown and Aurora are all his fault instead of asking hard questions?

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

Another Tarantino bashing on the DesNews? Methinks this is beginning to border on bullying...

[If movie violence is completely divorced from the real thing, then why shouldn’t a third-grader be allowed to watch "Pulp Fiction"?]

That's ridiculous... I was in the fourth-grade when Pulp Fiction came out. Same with The Shawshank Redemption. Those two movies taught me that I never want to go to prison.

[the Digital Age has made access to violent content far easier for children]
[It’s possible to take common sense measures to make such access more difficult without repealing the First Amendment.]

See, not really, because it's pretty easy to get access to material prohibited by the US government. Wikileaks, to say the least. All you're gonna do is destroy the American media industry, with plenty of foreign competition ready to fill in, but not stop an 8 year old from accessing it all online and elsewhere.

Any suggested legislation would violate the 1st Amendment and wouldn't prevent anything anyway. Sure, maybe some kids are too dumb to find this stuff online, but they probably know a smart kid who'll help them.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

Bennett is absolutely correct. Modern Hollywood has become little more than a left-wing organization bent on destroying every traditional moral value that forms the basis of this Country's historic greatness. Tarantino has led this charge.

Modern Hollywood has an open and stated agenda of promoting recreational violence and recreational sex. Ideed, violence is glorified as not ony acceptable, but absolutely desirable. Sex is also portrayed as a purely recreational activity that should be engaged in at any time with any person whenever the urge arrises. In addition, Hollywood would have the public believe that the more deviant the sex is, the better it is.

Sadly, Tarantino and his ilk have swayed a large portion of the gullible public. Even sadder still, the ignorant hordes are now immitating the attitudes and behaviors that are portrayed in these vile and pernicious movies.

It is time for all patriotic Americans to speak up. Remaining silent will allow our society to devolve into nothing more than violent anarchy, in which sexual deviancy reigns supreme.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

Why focus on Tarrantino of all directors? Who else accompanies the callous, cruel torture of a police officer with the cheerful, desensitizing strains of "Stuck in the Middle with You," by Gerry Rafferty?

toshi1066
OGDEN, UT

How about looking at yourself Deseret News? If news outlets didn't make such a big deal over tragedies, mentally disturbed people wouldn't think "Ah-HAH! This is the way I can go out with a bang! I will ensure that everyone knows MY name. I'll get in the history books!"

Adalaide
OREM, UT

The ridiculousness of the concept of showing these movies to children is mind blowing. In third grade a lot of kids still believe in Santa, the boundaries between reality and fantasy are not yet clearly defined and realistically violent TV and movies are not things I ever allowed my young children to watch.

Do the effect us? Certainly. But we choose what we take away from them also. Is Resident Evil a series of unnecessarily violent movies with zombies, or did you let them prompt you to ask deeper questions. Sure, they're violent zombie movies but they are also more. The same is true of Tarantino movies. For mentally healthy adults who have no issues separating fantasy and reality, who can take more away from them than some swearing and violence I think he makes phenomenal films and highly recommend them. They simply aren't for everyone. In the end, if you don't like them, don't watch them. Isn't all of life that way? Don't like it? Don't partake.

Beverly
Eden, UT

The problem with violence in America is the readily available gun in our homes. The accidental death at Yuba Lake, the accidental death of child in Layton, and don't forget the 20 dead school children, are all violent deaths created by the gun culture's nonsense. We need to stay focused on the primary cause of violence - readily available guns. Guns kill close to 30,000 people every year in the United States. Canada, England, Japan, Germany, etc. watch the same movies and video that we do, but have very little gun death. The Deseret New should stop attempting to deflect the attention of everyone away from the real issue. We need to figure out how to prevent gun deaths in America.

Free Agency
Salt Lake City, UT

The problem isn't just that these celebrations of violence in movies might lead to real-life massacres. The bigger problem for our society is that these films desensitize us--including our youngest citizens--to human suffering. And *that* could carry over more to real life, in people's, including kids', not caring about each other. (Think of school bullying.) That's how a society truly falls apart.

There's no way, in a free society, that we can stop these films from being made--nor should we try.

What we should do is instill compassion in our kids and friends and neighbors by our own example. Hopefully to the point where they'd react to seeing films like Tarrantino's with a big, "YUCK!"

A note to John Charity Spring: I'm a gay male, socially liberal, and I abhor most of the films coming out of Hollywood. These films are not "left-wing" but products for a crass marketplace that eats them up. In short, it's that Great American Value, *business.* I hope your comment about deviant sex means how it's portrayed (cheaply) rather than an overall generalization about people who are gay.

coleman51
Orem, UT

I see that the comments above show an abysmal ignorance of how violent movies and games all produced and fostered by Hollywood affect a person's mind. It is not a question of people not recognizing fantasy from reality. In some respects, this type of reasoning sidesteps the real problem with violence in movies and games. The problem with violence is the same with pornography. Both violence and pornography creates a connection with the pleasure centers of the brain to produce an addictive control over a person's mind. The person who views pornography and violence essentially become addicted to it. There is then a small leap with some individuals of not just craving pornography and violence, but of acting it out. This is the real issue that should be explored. A society that is addicted to such things are only at a trigger point away from acting it all out.

JustinJ
Ogden, UT

Bennett clearly does not like Tarentino, and that's fine. He is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else. While I agree that children should not see these movies, they are part of our culture. As for the comments about guns killing people, that is just misinformed rhetoric.

Guns DO NOT kill people. The people holding the guns kill people, and it will happen no matter if we take away the gun or not. Some people are bent on causing chaos no matter what. Violent movies and video games are simply a safe outlet for people to get their fix without carrying out any violent acts.

Saying guns kill people is like saying spoons make people fat. Are we going to outlaw spoons in the name of health? The world is a violent place, but some like to pick and choose what information the use to make their point and further their own agenda.

Tarentino makes movies. He is not a mass murderer, terrorist or even an accomplice to violent acts. If people watch his movies then go out and get crazy, that's on them.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

No, it's the gun nut society, it's no movies.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

No the NRA and backwoods inbred mentality that worship Guns Gold and God in that order that are the problem not fictional movies. The conservatives believe that America is populated by 10 year olds that need a sanitized world outlook, while starting wars that kill REAL people with REAL bullets.

I'll take hollywood fantasy over REAL wars of agression by our country any day of the week.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Look, Jim Bennett hates Tarantino's films, and I love them, so we're unlikely to agree. But there's no hypocrisy in saying that these are genuinely great films, but also that young children shouldn't watch them until they're old enough and mature enough to understand what's going on.
Portrayal is not advocacy. Violent films don't promote violence--they can offer a cathartic experience.
Here's what desensitizes us to violence--PG-13 films and TV programs that routinely suggest that violence isn't messy, that gunshots are clean, and that it's perfectly easy to distinguish between 'good guys' and 'bad guys,' and allow only the former to kill only the latter. QT never makes that mistake. His films are violent, yes, serving as brilliant and thoughtful deconstructions of violence in our culture. I have watched them all, with my family. But I waited until my kids were old enough to get the point.

payara
OREM, UT

How about putting the responsibility where it belongs....Parents. Spend some time teaching your children right from wrong, respect from selfishness. This country is suffering from decades of quick fixes rather than good old fashion parenting.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

Growing up in the 60s/70s every family I knew had shotguns and rifles in the home. The weapons were not secured and ammo was cheap and easy to come by. It wasn't strange to have a shotgun in your vehicle at high school because you were going hunting after school. Fist fights occasionaly occured at or after school, but no one ever thought of using a gun to settle a score.

So what has changed? Movies have become much more violent. People laugh and cheer watching gore inflicted by hard core foul mouthed charactors. Youth play video games depicting murder and meyham where they are rewarded for violent behavior.

The founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment to protect the people from an unjust government. I guess the founding fathers must have been backwoods inbred mental cases?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Go Big Blue!!! said: The founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment to protect the people from an unjust government.
I guess the founding fathers must have been backwoods inbred mental cases?

Nope just the NRA and the backwoods inbred mental cases who think that the government should restrict the 1st amendment, but place NO restrictions on the 2nd.

pleblian
salt lake city, utah

Are you advocating for getting rid of this stuff? Hiding us from choices, limiting freedom, is not how you develop character. You confront the bad in the world, choose to not indulge in it, and become stronger for the choice. You do not seek to limit other people's choices.

Is anyone advocated limiting this expression? Choose to abstain from it. Discourage it. But why criticize those who produce it?

Is the LDS religion responsible for LDS religious extremists--who get their start in regular meetinghouses? Of course not. They only share religiosity in common.

Violent films are available to those who want to see violent films. Church houses are available to those who want to seek church. Neither is responsible for fringe behaviors.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

You know what affected me FAR more than any Tarantino movie? Being deployed to a war zone and seeing first hand the horrors of war. Guess what? It is messy, disgusting, bloody, chaotic, scary, and life-changing. This was a war overwhelmingly support by the conservatives in Utah. These same conservatives who couldn't be bothered to volunteer to serve themselves. I didn't see John Charity Springs there.

Trust me Tarantino's go nothing on reality.

BTW, not everything in life is a Thomas Kinkade painting. Art is a reflection of life and sometimes it offends. Sometimes it doesn't make sense. Sometimes it is beautiful and sometimes it is ugly - just like life. If you don't think there is violence in this world, perhaps you should visit your local military recruiter, grab a weapon and stand a post.

isrred
South Jordan, UT

Really? We're going to blame movies and video games? Whatever happened to "personal responsibility" that I hear social conservatives blathering about?

Look in the mirror America, we are one of the most violent nations in history. We have constantly been at war--sometimes multiple wars at once--since our founding. We have assassinated and violently removed leaders of other nations throughout the last century. We had a bloody civil war with ourselves. Many people in this country read religious texts that are full of violence and bloodshed in the name of the "Lord".

Take some responsibility. Does art mirror reality or does reality mirror art?

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