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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 9 2013 8:44 a.m. MST

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Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Shall we strive for consensus and compromise on gay marriage? Abortion? Deficit spending? The definition of illegal alien? One man's consensus is another man's sell-out.

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

Radicals are those who never pause to consider that they may be wrong. Radicals are those who refuse to compromise.

Say NO to BO wrote: "Shall we strive for consensus and compromise on gay marriage? Abortion? Deficit spending? The definition of illegal alien? One man's consensus is another man's sell-out."

The LDS Church has agreed to not oppose "civil unions" for gay couples. Did the Church sell out? The LDS Church recognizes that there are justified abortions. Did the Church sell out? The Great Depression and WWII necessitated deficit spending. Did FDR sell out? Or should he have allowed Americans to starve and fought the Nazis with broomsticks? Young couples buying homes almost always borrow money (deficit spending). Are these young Americans selling out? And you are quibbling over the definition of "illegal alien?" Until convicted in a court of law, the word "illegal" doesn't apply to anyone in America, and aliens are from outerspace...

Wanda B. Rich
Provo, UT

I used to be a Republican, but in recent years the party has gone so far to the right and adopted so many irrational positions that I could no longer, in good conscience, be a member. I am now unaffiliated and hope for more moderation from both parties.

As for fiscal matters, what the extremists are now calling fiscal conservativism is really just another name for irresponsible devotion to creating an economy in which all the wealth accumulates at the top. Such an economy is unsustainable. What I find particularly odd is that I don't hear "fiscal conservatives" claiming that economic inequality is good (no one does). But all their policies promote it as if it were the only true economic gospel. Pathetic.

aceroinox
Farmington, UT

The inference here is that Dan Liljenquist is a radical, and that for Senator Hatch to join the rest of the Utah delegation in opposing a really dumb bill that only kicked the can down the road would represent radical thinking. I'd like to ask the august Senator why he considers cutting spending, reforming entitlements and righting our seriously listing fiscal ship radical thoughts.

The idea of 6 more years of this wrong-headed guy scares me to death!

andyjaggy
American Fork, UT

Too late. Moderates like Hatch are a dying breed. Unfortunately.

Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

Mr. Hatch: You need look no further than your own mirror to see where America's problems lie! Just look what has happened on your "watch". Shame on you and the rest of our "representatives"!

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Hatch is a sell out.
Has been for years.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

...and the last election where it was a slug fest and it took the non-radicals to nominate somebody who the Progressives didn't like.

1:08 p.m. Jan. 9, 2013

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Mitt Romney was NOT the conservative you like to think he was,
He was a Northeastern, Rockafeller, Blue Dog, RINO Republican -- and everybody knew it.

Besides -- You're one to be talking smack about Hatch.
You voted for him, didn't you?

FYI - You, Mike Richards, Voice of Reason, Mountaman, wrz, jsf, L White, ect....
You are the radical extremeists Senator Hatch was talking about.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Allright, the tea party radicals get what they call for from both sides. The tea party's call to not pay our incurred debt to get "leverage" should end the party's effectiveness forever.

xert
Santa Monica, CA

Mr. Hatch--you bought the materials for, designed, constructed, ordered linens for and MADE this sad looking bed. And you WILL sleep in it. The fact that nobody but weird Uncle Ray and boring Aunt Wanda want to join you for a sleepover is no ones fault but your own. Enjoy the "ahem"--slumber party. ZZZzzzzz.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" Romney was a step in the right direction. He is exactly what I thought he was. Since you do not have the ability to read minds, there is no way you know what I think of Romney.

Actually, you and your ilk that have joined the Republican party and keep insisting they nominate "moderates" are the ones that are the radical extremists. The Republicans need to stop trying to be like your ilk to appear moderate.

gottscheer
Ogden, UT

It is interesting that Hatch uses the word Radical. Remember the Founding Fathers were called Radicals. Hatch has a terrible record on conservative issues. Hatch used to be a champion for conservative issues, but his friendship with Kennedy has had him championing liberal causes. He is no expert on Radicals. The real radicals are those men and women who have taken us away from our founding principles and the Constitution. The last 120 years of America have seen mostly Prsident's who had more interest in socialistic/communist principles and ignored the Constitution completely. It has been a slow road to ruin and Obama has just about got us to the point of no return. God help us all!

Sophie 62
spring city, UT

It MAY end up being dominated by radicals?

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy . . .

* Did you just label Senator Hatch a "RINO"? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you absolutely KNOW that Jon Huntsman Jr. is a RINO? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you think that political litmus tests and monolithic ideological purity are good things? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Did you pillory Senator Hatch over his vote on the fiscal cliff bill? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you think that going over the fiscal cliff would've been a good thing because sequestration would have reined in big government spending? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you think that shutting down government via the debt ceiling would be a good thing for the same reason? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you think that individual welfare is shameful, but corporate welfare(subsidy) is okay? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

* Do you reject biological darwinism, but regularly promote economic darwinism? . . . then maybe you're a Right-Wing Extremist.

[*Tried* to use the signature "If you / you might be", but it was rejected for "copyright infringement"]

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "SG in SLC" I want to add one more.

If you disagree with Democrats or liberal policies, you are a right wing extreamist.

Grandma Char
Kaysville, UT

Wow, I sure hope Orrin is right! We should have kicked him out of office when we had the chance...

Let's look at this. He was the only Utah representative in Washington to voted to raise taxes on small businesses. The other four must have known something he didn't.

I'll support a true Constitution loving person any day of the week. Orrin isn't one of them!

Bomar
Roberts, ID

For those of you who are defending Uncle Orrin, shame on you. Orrin campaigned as a conservative, which he has never been, and at the first opportunity, his vote contradicts that. For those of you that think that vote only restored the "Bush tax cuts", you best read the bill because Orrin did not. Orrin, like Bennett, loves big spending and Big Government and then when up for re-election, becomes a chameleon.

Uncle Orrin is a carpetbagger, having spent little time in the state and will not return upon leaving the senate. If able, just like Bennett, he will become a lobbyist. Then he can truly reach out to all of those across the aisle and really make the big dollars and be properly rewarded for his "life of service".

Bob Pomeroy
Bisbee, AZ

It is a national tragedy that the GOP has been unable to withstand a hostile takeover.

danaslc
Kearns, UT

Is it not rather strange that those who have power feel they know what's best for the Republican Party? The Republican Party does not represent Republican's anymore. I think it is time for Conservative Republican's to jump ship. Not one more dime of mine is going to the Republican Party. They do not represent me nor my family. I feel dirty being associated with them. Time to start looking elsewhere. Libertarian maybe? Democrat? Not Republican. They are to wishy washy. Exactly what are Wrights and Hatch's values? Which way will they swing next election?

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

@RedShirt

I didn't say (and don't believe) that those who disagree with Democrats or liberal policies are Right-Wing Extremists. Democrats and liberals don't have all the answers (far from it); neither do Republicans and conservatives (again, far from it). I believe that civil, substantive discussion and debate are valuable, and usually lead to the best outcomes. However, I don't have much patience for dogma, or for those who promote a "let it burn" agenda to try to ensure that the opposition party President is a one-term President.

And . . . maybe you just reinforced my previous post.

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