Published: Tuesday, Jan. 8 2013 4:50 p.m. MST
Really! You mean when you pay players millions of dollars you make less than
when they play for free?
Of course were ritcher than the jazz and Ute. We have fans in China and a real
I take exception to those calling for collegiate athletes to be paid. How much
is a world class education worth? Don't give me that baloney. Collegiate
athletes are pampered beyond belief especially when you consider the resources
avialable to them that the average student can't afford. Football revenues
rightly support many other programs and are a driving force at successful
schools, but don't tell me that the payers need a salary. BTW, I'm a
former collegiate athlete: BYU football 1986-1992.
It is the entertainment industry with a helmet and shoulder pads. Make room on
the bench, Hollywood.
It helps when you don't have to pay your players.
Lazy Reporting here. The numbers for BYU are 2 years old and cover the reporting
period for calendar year 2010, when BYU was still in the MWC. The real data can
be found by googling "equity in athletics data cutting tool." I'd
put the link here, but you're not allowed to post links. Select "get
data from one institution," and search for Brigham Young and then Utah.
Click on Revenue and Expenses. BYU generated $22.4M in revenue in
2011, and had $14.9M in expenses. For the same reporting year Utah generated
20.7M in revenue and had expenses of $14.8M.
CougarPride11:"It was all those Pac12 stickers that Utah
sold..."No, the article was very specific. Utah's profit
was for the Football program ONLY! Not the entire athletic department. Utah
Football does not profit from "Pac-12" licensed sales. The Pac-12 does.
BYU Cougars, Utah Utes and Utah Jazz?Wow, three mediocre franchises
mentioned in one headline....snore.....
GoatNapper:I looked at the report you referenced. It showed
Utah's Football program grossed $20.8M, and netted $5.9M, but it did not
cite where the revenues came from. Was that just ticket sales and stadium
concessions? Did it include Utah's share of the conference championship
game and bowl revenues? We know it didn't include TV revenue since Utah
got $0 in 2011.The Indy-WACers program grossed $22.4M, and netted
$7.4M, so that would mean that either TV revenues were left out, or that the Y
cashing ESPN checks only nets $1.5M more than the U with no TV revenue. Either
way, by the time the 2012-13 figures come out, look to see the Utes'
profits pull even FURTHER away from our little brother.**
Interesting factoid: Utah's Basketball program outpaced the Y's
financially -- attendance notwithstanding. Utah grossed $5.9M, and netted
$2.3M, whereas the Y grossed $5.9M, but netted only $172K.
Interesting data, and of course comparing a business model that is
‘largely” unpaid (except free tuition and housing) will make more
then one that over pays its main employees millions. For this to be more
meaningful if should look at the last 3-5 years to see a more accurate picture.
Also I wonder about the figures about BYU as I know BYU does NOT release this
kind of financial information (did someone just guess?) They may be making more
or less then this story indicates. Knowing the way BYU runs its institution I
expect it is making more then these figures show and still have lower tuition
for its students. I also understand that BYU’s Football and Basketball
keep the whole athletic department in the blue and therefore the Athletic
departments “costs” the school $0. per year. I wonder about U of U
and other schools total Athletic budget / costs. So with U of U making this
money is the whole athletic department covered or do we still spend tax money on
the athletic department?
Did anyone see the final ESPNU fan rankings? It looks like a bunch of Utah fans
tried to boost the school's profile.That's right,
according to the fan rankings the bowl ineligible 5-7 Utes finished ranked #28
in the nation. They must have been counting moral victories as well.
Biff,Newsflash, things have changed in 25 years. 10 times more money
is generated off video game contracts and TV today than were EVER generated by
everything 2 decades ago. ESPN has already signed a BILLION dollar contract with
the SEC alone.Did you know video game contracts allow EA Sports to
use the student players in their video games forever without ANY compensation?
(Oscar Robertson is still being used and he graduated in 1961)That
Jersey sale money goes straight past the student who's jersey the fans are
buying?Yes, a "world class" (whatever that means) education
is worth something; but the BCS Colleges prosper FAR more off of the players
than the players EVER get from their University. I mean they don't even pay
for the health insurance of those same players! Not because it's right, but
because they don't have to.
Just like government welfare: Some take what others earned.
Hawk - With 35 bowls this year, it's hard to believe Utah was pathetic
enough to not make one... Wait, no it's not.
The article completely fails to realize the business model of college sports.
The real revenue in college sports is donations. Get to good bowl game and the
donations come in. The real dollars in college football are all about white
tent events where overly optimistic alumni feel their team is destined to
become/remain a great dynasty and they want to be part of it. These donors want
access to the players, to practices, to the best seats, to fancy parties and
they want their name on buildings and in programs. They pay hundreds of
millions of dollars for these "perks." That's where the real money
Let me get this right. So Utah's profit from football is roughly twice
that of BYU, even when they haven't gotten a full share of the TV revenue?
But I thought ESPN was paying BYU boatloads of money to be shown every Saturday
night at 10:15 EST against the likes of New Mexico State.As one
astute poster pointed out, it might partially be because of the PAC12 logos the
Utes have sold. BYU has been trying to cash in on the independence logo, but
Holmoe is still doing Google searches to see if there are any of those in stock
around and can't find them. Besides the money, I just like
attending with my season tickets knowing it will actually be a game. I was
tired of walking into RES knowing Utah would beat Wyoming by 20 points. I much
prefer to trade in my 11-0 season for a competitive league that is a challenge
to win each week. I hope they finish higher than this year, but the PAC12 trade
was a huge blessing in the lives of us Utah fans.
@Y Grad / Y Dad Kraylon Actually they don't....
Missing from this equation: Pro teams do not have dozens of other athletic teams
to support. What about the costs associated with BYU/Utah softball, gymnastics,
basketball, diving, swimming, Track and Field, soccer, baseball, volleyball,
etc.? Viewed in isolation, football turns a profit, but those profits are
necessarily funneled to underwrite other unprofitable sports.
Players commit way too much of their life to make money for the school. Some of
these guys are never the same after playing college football. Knees, back, neck
are all jacked up.While the schools make millions. And pay coaches
millions. Total joke.Athletes are restricted from working.
Internships are almost impossible to do. They all hope to go to the
NFL but most don't. They jeopardize the rest of their life by being too
tired to really get into school and learn. Football dominates their life.
Coaches, media, fans..everyone is wearing them out.They pay too high
of a price just to be manipulated by the schools in exchange for a scholarship.
Excellent information!You are correct, these number are not up to
date nor current. They do not reflect BYU since Independence whatsoever.
Here is more current data regarding BYU and Utah's athletic
budgets...Utah Reporting year 7/1/2011 - 6/30/2012$20,759,062 revenues (Football)$14,835,266 expenses (Football)Total Salaries (coaches)mens $6,016,192 womens
$2,005,609total $8,021,801Grand Total Revenues for all
Teams $46,153,197Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand
Total Expenses $0 (profit)BYUReporting year 1/2/2011
- 1/1/2012$22,406,413 revenues (Football) $14,991,538
expenses (Football) Total Salaries (coaches)mens
$3,101,580 womens $1,172,420 total $4,274,000Grand Total Revenues for all Teams $53,033,500Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand Total Expenses $4,698,770
(profit) Again, BYU is doing just fine controlling their own Brand
and the accompanying Exposure which that brings. The days of
obscurity in the MWC are in the rear view mirror now for BYU.
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