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Dick Harmon: Robert Anae must really love BYU to take on such a thankless role — again

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  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Jan. 9, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    Chris – sometimes I think you’re a frustrated BYU fan.

    Being a BYU fan who is not an active LDS church member, I too am sometimes annoyed by BYU’s concern with “Sunday school boys” as opposed to true athletes as you put it. But, the bottom line is BYU is a church run school subsidized in large part in tithing dollars. As a result, there is going to be a hefty dose of Mormonism at all corners. I don’t necessarily like it either but, as long as the LDS church is shoveling $ in the direction of BYU, they will call the shots and there’s no amount of complaining any of us can do to change that.

    Regarding Holmoe and the Pac 12, for much the same reason stated above BYU is a very unlikely member of the Pac 12 no matter what they do or bring to the table from a fan base / financial perspective. I’d encourage you to enjoy the Utes new conference and BYU for the fact that you can now see basically all of their major sporting events on national television.

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Jan. 9, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    @U90, I too would be an angry inconsistent bitter person if I was stuck in Corona.

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Jan. 9, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    The reason fans at other schools often don't know their OC is because they are not fully invested.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 11:26 p.m.

    Not exactly sure what Harmon is trying to accomplish other than riling up the ant pile. I hope that Anae works out and BYU can have a strong season next year. If the offense stumbles next year as much as it did this year, we're in for a long season.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Jan. 8, 2013 8:46 p.m.

    I think too much attention is paid to tweeners like Chris B. When I see that name on a post, I skip it as I know there is nothing worth my time in that post. I did see a lot of replies to Chris B which is sad as I think that is Chris B's whole purpose in life, is to seek attention. As any child knows the easiest way to get attention is to misbehave!

    Sorry, I know I just paid attention to Chris B, but I just had to say this once!

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    @U90

    "Just keep trying to convince yourselves that Utah's primary objective is to beat BYU..."

    No need for convincing; the evidence is overwhelming - beating BYU has been THE DOMINANT accomplishment cited by Utah fans for the last two years.

    During Utah's tenure in the PAC 12, losing to Colorado, losing to Utah State, finishing with a losing record, not being ranked, not going to a bowl, not beating a single PAC 12 team with a winning record, have been completely overshadowed by Utah winning a couple of games against BYU.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 5:29 p.m.

    U 90

    BYU finished 1994 ranked #10 in the Coaches poll, the ONLY poll that Utah fans ever cite when talking about Utah's Top 25 finishes.

    For example, where did Utah finish in 2008?

    If you say only one place higher than BYU finished in 1996, I'll buy your #18 ranking for BYU in 1994.

    Otherwise, show some consistency.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Jan. 8, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    CordonBleu, That's a nice argument but since BYU finished 1994 as the #18 ranked in the final AP poll it wouldn't qualify as one of Utah's marquee wins.

    Christine B, no the 2012 win over BYU was not a marquee win. You're confusing marquee with beating a team 3 times in one day.

    Just keep trying to convince yourselves that Utah's primary objective is to beat BYU... which is a joke considering Utah has owned the Y and the two teams aren't even in the same league anymore.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    Anae came back because BYU offered the OC position and twice the money he was making. He knows very well that he is much more likely to land a head coaching offer as a coordinator than he is as a position coach. Anae has worked for two of the most innovative offensive minds in football in Mike Leach and Rich Rodriguez, and his hire is a great move on BYU's part. In addition they're getting one of the best offensive line coaches in the country. Solid hire by any measure.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Meridian, ID
    Jan. 8, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    U90, don't we have to consider 2012's win against BYU marquee? What other game in our history have we stormed the field, not once but three times, almost costing our team one of our rare D1 wins? Certainly that should make the list of our marquee victories! Any time we win our only bowl game of the season in September I count it as a marquee win.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    It's pretty clear that none of us commenting on this article have the intelligence, input or authority to to make any coaching decision at any level of any college. Good luck to those who do!

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    Chris B does actually make a semi-reasonable post. Except when he criticizes Holmoe for not getting into the pac12. The pac 12 leadership, being berkenstock bigots, simply will not admit a religious institution. Holmoe can't do anything about that.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    "in that same time-frame BYU and their "national brand" has only managed to sell out LES three times. What do those trends tell you?"

    Tells me BYU is always on national TV.

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    Can someone describe the perspective that Dick Harmon approaches these articles with? Every journalist has a perspective. His comment "a BYU Kool-Aid drinker" in describing Doman made me wonder. Do you think he is objective and fair, or has an ax to grind?

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:13 a.m.

    This hire, or re-hire, of Anae is truly bind-boggling. BYU fans couldn't get rid of him fast enough two years ago. Then, after the offense struggles, Bronco decides to hire him back again? I'm not sure why Bronco would want him back, or, for that matter, why Anae would even want to come back. Has Anae suddenly become the next Bill Walsh?

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    Executorloh,
    "Dick Harmon must really love BYU to take on such a thankless role of writing for BYU fans that detest his articles." Name one.

  • sixpacktr Lancaster, NY
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    Sorry that Doman had to go. I don't think it was all him, but rather him reacting to the talent he had. I loved Riley: his grit, his willingness to sacrifice everything to win. But he wasn't a true QB: I thought of him as more of a running back that could throw. He'd have tore it up as an RB. But the problems with the OL were the real problems this year with the offense. They couldn't keep anybody about of there, and it is hard to be good when you don't have time for a play to develop.

    If the Cougars can get a healthy, heavy OL, things will come along. Looking forward to next season already since KVN is coming back. I hope the D is just as strong as this year, and perhaps with an offense that socres more than 10 points/game we can actually win more games.

    Also, I LOVE that we are independent! It gives BYU a lot of flexibility.

  • Snark Provo, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    This article left out one obvious fact, one that makes the article less than newsworthy. The coaches of any large fan-based team, at any level (from little league to the NFL) will be subject to a barrage of criticism from armchair players who ("uncle Ricco-like") relive their high school glory years (real or make-believe) and take aim at coaches when things go wrong (or just not right enough). It is a gutsy move to come back to a school where you were once maligned and take back the same job you had then. Thanks for your courage, Robert! Anae clearly loves BYU and his loyalty to the school and the football program motivated him to come back and subject himself to the ongoing babbling that greases the comment pages in the press, including my babbling, which is now done!

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    This Sunday School boy welcomes Anae back, he had some great years here at BYU and helped two quarterbacks make NFL teams, hard to argue with that.
    Anae's offense bacame stale towards the end, but it is an improvement either way you look at it. Doman is a fine man and I hope he stays on staff, but he definately was in over his head this season, the offense couldn't score a td to save it's life against any decent competition.

    Here's to a new future at BYU. GO COUGS!

  • Jim1027 St. George, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    The Utah TROLLS love to talk about beating the Y, even if that's their only win each year. They'll be the "whipping boy" in the PAC forever. No way will they EVER win a championship. Never. Ever.

    So what did they accomplish by joining?

    Then, they turned their back on their biggest rival to concentrate on lowball teams.

    Shame.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    U 90

    Actually, since your marguee ranking is obviously based mostly on final ranking, Utah's win over 10th ranked BYU in 1994 would be a bigger win than all but yourwin over 6th ranked Alabama.

    Creating the list is really an exercise in futility anyway, since Utah fans are so totally obsessed with BYU, that wins versus others teams are already forgotten after the next game.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Seriously, have you never lived anywhere else? Sport coaches always have plenty of critics (and supporters), not just at BYU. There is a reason we see coaching carousels all over the country, and we have phrases like "nobody is more popular than the back-up QB." You seem to think BYU is different somehow. Sure, it would be nice if all Cougar fans were above the fray, but we're talking football here. If you don't have some "fanatics" following the program, then you have a program in deep trouble.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Jan. 8, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    Anae is just what BYU needs. An experienced, tough OC to go with their experienced, tough HC and DC.

    I'm liking it.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2013 3:19 a.m.

    @ Alta Hawk

    My point when so far over your head it's unbelievable. I disputed the claim that Utah has a band wagon fan base with the fact that RES has sold out three straight seasons, despite Utah struggling in two of those seasons. Btw, in that same time-frame BYU and their "national brand" has only managed to sell out LES three times. What do those trends tell you?

  • jimbobb Modesto, CA
    Jan. 8, 2013 2:19 a.m.

    Did Anae and Reynolds get along? Just trying to figure out why he would come back.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 8, 2013 12:28 a.m.

    I have been thinking the same thing the last few days relative to Anae and his apparent love of BYU. That said, don't be surprised if he is head coach if Bronco steps aside in the near future.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:55 p.m.

    Old Navy
    Provo, UT

    "Not too long ago, BYU would handle USU...those days are gone!"

    Actually, those days are still here for BYU, but not Utah.

    But, and it pains me to say it, you can still storm the field and very nearly hand the game to your rival. At least until next year.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    Hey, Dick. Give it a rest. Most fans are not idiots, as you describe them. Should we be "Stepford" fans and paste on a smile and cheer reverently for the Cougs, no matter the quality of their play? Most fans I know are smart, reasonable, and don't get too carried away in either their praise or their criticism. Some of the fans on these comment boards are exceptions. These guys who coach are well paid and get to be involved in a game they love. They all know what they're in for. They're grownups and don't need protection.

    Go Cougs. Welcome, Coach Anae!

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    If you remember correctly most of the offensive were either freshmen or sophomores so i suspect there will be a vast improvement next season,many of the experienced starters from lat year got hurt in spring drills.

  • longversion SANDY, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 8:25 p.m.

    The nerve of the unwashed masses! To even think of questioning the competency of coaching decisions at BYU!

    How dare they voice their displeasure after watching one of the best defenses in school history get thrown under the bus by one of the worst offenses in school history.

    How dare they assume to know anything about the game of football from any perspective other than couch potato, little league parent, or wannabe.

    How dare they question the idea of putting a "free safety" under center, after watching him throw duck after inaccurate duck and pick six after pick six, which directly accounted to the point differential for at least 3 of the 5 losses.

    How dare they feel passion for their alma mater or take pride in their football team and voice their opinions; right or wrong, omnicient or oblivious.

    Shame, shame, on those clueless, indolent, ignoble, BYU fans for giving a flying crap.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    re: Two For Flinching

    Are you sure that's a whole 18 games ? That's a mighty long history of sellouts for your smallish stadium. LOL

  • Benhur Everett, WA
    Jan. 7, 2013 7:59 p.m.

    Y Fans must really love BYU to continue to care less about BYU football.

  • How gr8 isthat Washington, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 7:55 p.m.

    I apologize. I to, am now a troll from the state of Utah.

  • How gr8 isthat Washington, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 7:50 p.m.

    I'm a Sunday school boy and proud of it. Great article that has been tortured by people hiding behind closed doors from both sides ridiculing each other with words you wouldn't say to the other in front of your mother. I'd rather be a Sunday school boy than a troll ( I believe that is the name we call each other in this state that represents so much) bagging on each others affiliation. Peace my friends and may all the schools in Utah rise to prominence.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Jan. 7, 2013 7:45 p.m.

    Chow, Crowton, and now Doman. The career of the first two after leaving BYU might make some of us wonder how good they really are/were. Blame the fans if you want, but the problem is still lack of creatativity in the offense(something you must do if you are a notch below on talent) and failure to sign the very top LDS talent instead of the Riley Nelson type walk-0ns. We need a proven OC. Coach Anae is not that, but he does have experience and I assume he will really be motivated. I'm willing to give him a second chance. If he fails,we can always bring back Doman.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 7:14 p.m.

    @ NotFromUT

    I disagree. I don't know a single Ute fan who would take a W over BYU over a Pac-12 title and guaranteed Rose Bowl berth. You're making outlandish claims in place of substance.

    Also if Utah is a mediocre team with a mediocre future, why has RES sold out 18 straight games? If most of our fans are band wagon jumpers we wouldn't be seeing those kind of numbers.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 6:39 p.m.

    Tom in CA,

    The Miami win was impressive, however beating a Pitt team that finished unranked at 3-7-1, not so much. Beating an SMU team that finished the year 8-4 in a mid tier bowl is okay.... I guess. Aren't there more impressive wins over quality teams than the ones you called out?

  • Downtownchrisbrown ,
    Jan. 7, 2013 6:38 p.m.

    BYU's biggest loss to graduation is easily Stephenson. They have several LB's graduating (like Ogletree), but I think we are pretty deep there and should be fine next year. I think defense will be fine. Skilled offense should be fine. Only question marks in my mind are O-line and DBs.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 6:18 p.m.

    Like LaVell Edwards said many years ago to Paul James after another great season. "Paul, there's only two types of coaches, those who have been fired and those who are going to get fired."

    I'm sure it wasn't original with LaVell, but in most cases (except LaVell), it's true.

    Coaches have to be at least half masochistic.

    Put all the money on the table that there is nowadays, and you have the makings of a few winners (very few) and lots of losers.

    There's not much sport in it anymore and there's a heckava lot of self-inflicted pain even for those who do it for the love of sport but are caught in a truly un-winable and vicious scrum.

  • ExecutorIoh West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 5:35 p.m.

    Dick Harmon must really love BYU to take on such a thankless role of writing for BYU fans that detest his articles.

  • Old Navy Provo, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    Anything would be an improvement of BYU's pathetic offense as evidenced by such fantastic scores of 6-7 BSU and 6-3 USU. Not too long ago, BYU would handle USU...those days are gone!

  • MizzouBlue Carthage, MO
    Jan. 7, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    I hope we have good recruits coming in & players returning from missions who can step in and help our team next season. With 21 seniors graduating looks like there will be lots of positions to fill. Bronco has shown he can have our defensive side ready. Now we need Anae to do the same with our offense, esp. given the fact that we've got a challenging schedule with the likes of Texas, ND, Boise State, Wisconsin, Virginia as well our in state rivals. Go Cougs!!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    To: U 90...

    The Utah wins you listed should be the U's marguee wins. But since you're from California, it's obvious you don't understand the local U trolls. They believe beating BYU is the only thing that will make or break their season. In their blogs, they NEVER talk or brag about those very notable wins you listed. It's always about their latest win over the Y and basically nothing else except a little bit of unwarranted Y criticism thrown in. And yes, it is pretty sad. But that's the way it is... the way they are... and their only apparent way of defining success. It's no big deal to them that they couldn't even qualify for any bowl game this year... only that they got that w against BYU. Though that seems quite narrow and sad to everyone else, you've got to consider the source(s).

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    panama,

    I wouldn't call beating BYU a marquee win, I would just call it a guaranteed win.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    I think being asked to return to BYU after being shown the door was just too tempting to pass up. The last time someone had this big of a "last laugh," he was holding up a copy of the Chicago Tribune with a headline that read "Dewey Defeats Truman."

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    U 90 -

    Wow - now make a list of BYU marquee wins. You can start with the SMU pony express, then Pitt, and work forward to Miami when they were ranked 1st, etc., etc., etc.

  • Warrior Parent Belle Glade, FL
    Jan. 7, 2013 3:01 p.m.

    Welcome back and Good Luck! Coach Anae

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    If BYU can get their offensive line problems corrected in 2013, watch out! With 2 probable NFL draft picks coming back, along with the injured QB, the offense should be great. Go BYU!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    @ U 90: Wasn't one of your 5 wins this year against BYU? That would have to be one of your best wins of the year, right?

  • JD Tractor Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    OC at BYU is only a thankless role if you don't produce. If you do...hero worship!

  • #utesnation Centerville, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    @not from utah

    speak for yourself pal...

    and chris B leave the church leaders out of it... and stop associating yourself with the U cause you can be pretty embarrassing. Let's Have a winning record before we start predicting rose bowls... no way to get around the fact that it might take longer than we all anticipated to get the program up PAC competition.

    Go Utes!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    NotFromUtah sums it up about right, comparing BYU and Utah fans. Utah (so called) fans on these BYU articles are expected since there is nothing to report on the Utah articles, nor are there very many BYU fans reporting on them. I wonder why. As one blogger said, Utah trolls care more for criticizing BYU, its coaches, and its owner (LDS Church) than they do trying to build up interest for their own team.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    Ernest T Bass and Counter Intelligance - I concur. @Ernest: Look at the article "Anae's 10 best wins at BYU". These were awsome wins! Let's go for 13 in a row just like those in 2013.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    "It's always nice knowing you will forever consider your marquee win is v. BYU." -- Tom in CA

    That's weird Tom, because when I look at some of Utah's marquee wins, BYU is not one of them:
    1- #4 Alabama (Sugar Bowl)
    2- #20 Pitt (Fiesta Bowl)
    3- #11 TCU
    4- Rose bowl bound Oregon who finished the year #12
    5- #12 Colorado State
    6- #15 Arizona (Freedom Bowl)

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    Lincoln Coug, I agree wholeheartedly.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    "Being the offensive coordinator at BYU may just be one of the most thankless jobs in college football.... You will always do it with a limited recruiting base." -- Dick Harmon

    Is Dick agreeing with Chris B. gasp!

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 7, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    Harmon needs to get out of Utah more. OC's, DC's, HC's are always on the hook. It's no different anywhere else. Case in point, Johnson is already feeling the heat at Utah. One thing for sure, the majority, by a long shot, of Y fans are excited for Anae's return. In fact there may no be another university that would welcome a former coach back like BYU.

    BYU is a great university with a lot to offer with high expectations. Nothing wrong with that.

  • FanofTHEgame Mapleton, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    The problem for most fans is that they're improperly obsessed with their team winning at all costs. Yet, there is nothing for the fan to win. We support our teams because they represent us in some strange way. Far more important is that we should support sport because it helps reveal character. It isn't the wins or losses that matter, but watching players overcome the internal and external struggle that they face. Sport is fantastic because it allows the participants to face great battles in an "artificial" environment. Football is essentially artificial war. It takes soldiers (players) and commanders (coaches and support staff) working against a common enemy (insert your rival here). However, it isn't a real battle. The referees and sanctioning bodies work to control the damage. After the game the players should all go our various ways peacefully. We should all do the same and congratulate each other for each team's gains and losses and support each other in our trials. When our teams meet against each other, yes we should want our team to win, but this is secondary. What matters is character. Robert Anae is a man of character. Are you?

  • NotFromUT BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    Off Topic.

    I grew up on the Southwest Conference (Dallas). When I moved to Utah in 82, I QUICKLY noticed 2 things.

    1, the stadium at Utah was only 1/2 full - except for the BYU game. They seemed to give away more tickets via promotions than they sold. Where were all the Utah fans then? As an outsider I can honestly say most of today's U fans can easily qualify as Band Wagon Jumpers.

    Do you want to talk rivalry? Lets go hang out in Dallas the week of the UT / OU game.....

    #2, if it came down to a choice between beating BYU or winning the conference, the majority of U fans would opt for beating BYU. What a sad state of mind to be locked into. Sadly, many fans are still in that mode today.

    I have seen more long-term Y fans since moving here than U can even dream of.

    @Riddles is right about U success in the "12Pack". Long term they will mostly likely be mediocre and get mediocre bowl invitations. Any substantial improvement over that will probably take decades to accomplish. (If it is ever accomplished at all).

    Hook'em Horns!!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    " ..... because your church leaders would rather BYU be filled with sunday school boys than true athletes.... "

    Pretty much sums up the utah basketball team. And the utah football team isn't far behind. It's always nice knowing you will forever consider your marquee win is v. BYU.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 7, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Chris B

    Call us the first time Utah outrecruits USC.

    It's laughable how inconsitent U are.

    Beating your chest about the Utes playing in the Rose Bowl soon, while completely ignoring the fact that Utah's recruiting pales in comparison to USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford and other PAC 12 schools.

    Top 40 recruiting classes for 2013
    #5 USC, #19 Washington, #20 UCLA, #22 Oregon, #26 California, #37 Arizona, and #38 Stanford

    USC has FIFTEEN 4-star recruits out of 15 total commits.
    Utah has ONE 4-star recruit out of 27 commits.

    It's quite obvious that the PAC 12 added Utah as cannon fodder for the big boys of the conference to pad their conference records. The Utes will never be anything more than a conference bottom dweller, but I'm sure that Washington State and Colorado appreciate the company.

    btw, half of Utah's roster is filled with "Sunday School" boys

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 7, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Why are you singling out BYU? You just described any college with a huge fan base. I guess that's why you couldn't have written this article about any other Utah based school.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    Jan. 7, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    I must agree with Counter Intelligence, you Ute trolls are very sad folks and I feel sorry for you. Chris B, or B for short, you are simply amazing. Nobody can complain like this B can.

    I welcome Anae back and wish him Godspeed!

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    @ekute

    You are a "ute" commenting on a BYU story; ergo - you are a troll praising a troll.
    Its a double negative; indicating that trolls are more driven by their hatred of BYU, rather than love for their own school.

    Shouldn't you be embarrassed by that?
    And doubly embarrassed for using football as a substitute for being angry about "church leaders"?

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Crowton won a national title at LSU after leaving Provo. That should be on a billboard in Utah County. Anae will probably be future head coach.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    The OC's job all comes down to the talent he has to work with. Average talent will produce average or worse results. Exceptional talent (Oregon) produces exceptional results.

    It's when an OC has average, or worse, talent that they are labeled by fans as being predictable. If an OC tries to change up the play calling without great results they are labeled as not having an identity.
    The OC, particularly at byu, is a thankless task. Look no further than Norm Chow, a great offensive mind, who was run out of Provo.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Yeah, right, I am going to be angry at the church for what goes on in BYU football...get a grip on life people!!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Jan. 7, 2013 11:05 a.m.

    There are still lots of BYU alumni who would love to coach in Provo. Anae deserves kudos for not turning into another turncoat, but the Cougar football program with lots of returning stars (Hoffman, Hill, Williams, Alisa, Van Noy and company) is not a bad place to be right now. This is a little like when Crowton came to BYU. His plate was already set for an outstanding season.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    If I were a Utah fan, I wouldn't being saying ANYTHING!

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    "It simply would not be worth it, if it were not about more than just football" -- Bronco Mendenhall. Apparently, Robert Anae feels the same way.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    @Jeff 29,

    I would think you would understand the difference between getting 1 great recruit and getting dozens of them.

    You think teams that have been to BCS games(see Alabama, TCU, Utah, Boise, Florida, LSU) get there with 1 great athlete?

    Sorry - all those teams mentioned above sent SEVERAL guys to the NFL.

    My point remains. If you can't get enough true "athletes" like the teams mentioned above, you'll never be worth mentioning in the same sentence as them.

    Unless, of course, that sentence went something like this:

    "byu lost to Utah, TCU, and Boise" for the fourth year in a row"

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    @Chris B Love your posts, and the responses from the bYu trolls are enternaining. Keep up the good work. Go Utes!

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    There is nothing more sure than death, taxes, and chrissy b being the first to post a comment on a BYU article.

  • Lincoln Coug Lincoln, NE
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    To Chris B and the rest of the trolls,

    You know full well that the "Just Win" mentality doesn't exist at BYU. BYU can perform at a high level without sacrificing high standards. Still, I expect more from the fanbase, which can be downright embarrassing at times. When everybody else in the country wants us to fail we need to circle the wagons instead of looking for a scapegoat.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    I think there is something that is not being spoken that lured Anae back to Provo. My personal belief is that Bronco only plans to stay through the end of his contract, next year. He opted not to take a long term contract. I think he's a man of his word, and wouldn't leave before his contract was finished. Anae had to be courted with the idea that he would be a more viable HC candidate if he were the offensive coordinator.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    And thus is life in college football in the great state of Utah, particularly Utah County. I challenge any reader to list OC's off the top of their head at SDSU, USC, UCLA, CAL or Stanford. I know I can't, and I attended SDSU and USC. It never seases to amaze me the interest in the Cougs offensive OC's- and I'm among them. I guess the readers comment to what's printed in this paper. Interesting that Harmon states how Edwards was "untouchable". Indeed he was. But, Bronco is pretty "untouchable" as well from any cristicsm by the DN sports writers. When that's the case, the attention of the readers then go to the next in the chain. I hope Anae turns this offense around. We all know it needs turning!

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    @Chris B

    You actually made a reasonable and logical post until you decided you needed to get your obligatory dig in about BYU athletes v. school boys, etc. In sentence 2 you talk about BYU having the #1 recruit in the nation, and follow that up in sentence 4 by essentially saying that BYU can't recruit.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2013 9:52 a.m.

    BYU fans need to learn to re-direct their embarrassment and anger to Bronco, Homloe, and ultimatley your church leaders.

    Bronco is the one who couldnt handle the #1 recruit in the nation, when "QB U" seemed like a perfect fit.

    Holmoe can't get you into the Pac 12.

    And you'll forever struggle against "athletes" because your church leaders would rather BYU be filled with sunday school boys than true athletes.

    Give Doman and Anae a break.

    They don't deserve the thankless treatment they've received.