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Published: Sunday, Jan. 6 2013 5:00 a.m. MST

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Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Jesus came to proclaim the kingdom of God telling us that he that is greatest among us shall be our servant. Sounds simple enough but service to our fellow man is a programmatic approach to salvation that requires a lifetime of commitment.

That’s not what people wanted to hear, then or now. They wanted a messiah to do all the heavy lifting. So when Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead, they made his messianic mission into a message of salvation. His altruistic message became corrupted into an egocentric message of ‘Jesus came to save me’ by dying on the cross. The idea that salvation from sin might come through service to our fellow man could not be what Jesus meant when he said “come, follow me.”

That’s not the view of orthodox Christianity, be it Catholicism, Protestantism, or Mormonism. But it’s my reading of the life and ministry of Jesus and there’s nothing whiney or godless about it.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

They really need to change the name of this conference to the "Jesus Conference". Many have come as "Christ", not just Jesus of Nazareth. The conference should, first and foremost, focus on the question of whether or not Jesus was really "The Anointed One" and what exactly that means.

I say he was not "The Anointed One", and I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

But his teachings had some broad, popular appeal, even if they are unworkable as an ethical or moral system.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: A Scientist, I say he was not "The Anointed One", and I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

The early Church believed Christ was the Messiah: Nomina sacra means "sacred names" in Latin, and can be used to refer to traditions of abbreviated writing of several frequently occurring divine names or titles in early Holy Scripture, used in Greek, Latin, and Coptic manuscripts.

Bruce Metzger's book Manuscripts of the Greek Bible lists 15 such expressions from Greek papyri: the Greek counterparts of God, Lord, Jesus, Christ= MESSIAH, Son, Spirit, David, cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, and Heaven. Nomina Sacra have been found in Greek manuscripts from the 1st - 3rd Centuries CE.

Starting sometime in the 1st Century CE the nomina sacra were sometimes shortened by contraction in Christian inscriptions, resulting in sequences of Greek letters such as (chi-ro) and XPC (chi-rho-sigma) for Christ (Greek=Christos).

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"....his teachings had some broad, popular appeal, even if they are unworkable as an ethical or moral system...."
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Jesus didn’t need to be the Messiah for a Jew to wonder if he might be. As some followers came to believe God raised him from the dead, those two core beliefs formed the basis for what evolved into Christianity.

His teachings had populist appeal precisely because they were an expression of Jewish moral and ethical beliefs. Are they unworkable as a system? They certainly aren’t easy given the egocentricity of base human nature. But the single most recurrent theme in his teachings is that the kingdom of God is at hand. What he meant by “the kingdom” is what we still debate today.

John reports Jesus telling Pilate his kingdom was not of this world. That doesn’t square with the words of his famous prayer.

“Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on EARTH as it is in heaven.”

Jesus’ kingdom was very much of this world, not that it sought to displace Roman rule. It was a kingdom in which the Roman Empire didn’t matter. That powerful idea made Jesus more troublesome than an outright insurrectionist.

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