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Published: Thursday, Jan. 3 2013 12:25 p.m. MST

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LadyMoon
Orlando, FL

Seems to me that IF the MWC received BCS status (unlikely as that is) would BYU reconsider such a move back to the conference they were an original member...and of course, if they kept their TV rights/money (seemingly tne only thing they did accomplish through independence) would it be worth it. Otherwise, waiting out the Big 12 options appears as their only hope right now -Vs- remaining stuck in the 'huge pool' of hopeless independents...ND nothwithstanding.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Pretty sure every conference wants us more. We have are pick and went to interdependence by choice.

LadyMoon
Orlando, FL

Seems to me that IF the MWC received BCS status (unlikely as that is) would BYU reconsider such a move back to the conference they were an original member...and of course, if they kept their TV rights/money (seemingly tne only thing they did accomplish through independence) would it be worth it. Otherwise, waiting out the Big 12 options appears as their only hope right now -Vs- remaining stuck in the 'huge pool' of hopeless independents...ND nothwithstanding.

qball714
Anaheim, CA

@Naval Vet

Your own post makes it clear that it's not your concern for the MWC that motivates you, but your disdain for BYU. Fair enough. Haters gonna hate.

And also, despite what someone else said, I am a big fan of Philly. Pat's or Geno's?

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

Naval Vet

"The U lost to a soon-to-be Top-15 WAC champion this year..."

A team BYU BEAT!

Utah fans can spin it all they want, but BYU was 3-1 versus WAC, losing only to another Top 25 WAC team. At best, Utah would have been 2-2 versus the same WAC teams BYU played.

Lame Utah fan hyperbole notwithstanding, the Utes LOST to the ONLY WAC team they played this year. If Utah had played BYU's schedule, the Utes would have also lost to San Jose State, Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Oregon State, and at least one other team Utah fans would claim that the Utes couldn't possibly have lost to - see 10-loss Colorado and 10-loss UNLV. Losing to horrible teams you're not supposed to lose to is what U do.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ MUSSing with U

You don't know who Utah would have lost to if they had played BYU's schedule, despite those two brilliant examples from the past 5 seasons. This argument is silly because even you know that it is more than likely the Utes would have gone bowling if the schedules were reversed.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

2fer

It's true, nobody knows how Utah would have fared against BYU's schedule, or how BYU would have fared against Utah's schedule, but it's an undeniable fact that Utah would have gone bowling IF the Utes had beaten the lone WAC team on their schedule, Utah State, a team that BYU beat.

You can spin Whit's losing to 10-loss or bad teams as "unlikely", but the fact that Whit has already managed that dubious distinction TWICE in the last 5 years, makes Utah losing to bad teams much more "likely" than most coaches.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to lose to a 10-loss team?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

qball714:

"...it's not your concern for the MWC that motivates you, but your disdain for BYU."

Can't I do both? I've noticed that it's often been extremely difficult for Indy-WACey fans to comprehend, but Ute fans are more diverse in our thoughts than the single-minded folks amid your fanbase. We're capable of multiple thoughts and opinions. Jealous?

Truth is, I'm a Utah fan, first and foremost, and hold secondary allegiance to the Pac-12. Beyond them, I do in fact love the MWC. And yes, I despise the Y. And I'm capable of feeling this way all at the same time. I suppose Y fans can only do one.

"Pat's or Geno's?"

Neither. Those 2 cheesesteak eateries are for tourists. I prefer Tommy's (West Chester), Gator Club (Philadelphia), and LaSpadas (Woodlyn).

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

MUSSing with U

"A team BYU BEAT!"

So? What's your point? Aren't the Indy-WACers a team UTAH BEAT? If so, it seems to me that the only fans who regularly post here that can gloat at the Utes would be the Aggies. And you're not an Aggie. You're an Indy-WACey fan who'd lost 3 in a row, 8 of the last 11, and have a generation gap in the all-time series. How miserable for you.

"Utah would have been 2-2 versus the same WAC teams BYU played...Lame Utah fan hyperbole notwithstanding"

Haha! Typical hypocritical coug. You talk about lame hyperbole while simultaneously spew out some frantic and emotional nonsense based on no fact or support whatsoever. If the Utes didn't lose to any 10-loss teams from the Pac-12, how could you conclude we WOULD have from someone in the WAC. Cougar logic = oxymoron.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

TrueBlue

That is true, the loss to USU hurt Utah in the end.

As for losing to 10-loss teams; it's not hard when the year in 2007, the program is just starting to come out of a post BCS lull, the starting RB has already been lost for the season and the team is running a two QB system with a guy who turned out to be a bust and another guy who wasn't ready to come back from an injury sustained in week 1. Last year, Utah's special team choked. It happens and it's why they play the game. Remember when BYU got blown out by a 4-win Aggie team in 2010? It's the same thing. Sometimes teams get beat when they shouldn't.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Naval Vet
"but Ute fans are more diverse in our thoughts than the single-minded folks amid your fanbase."
"And yes, I despise the Y. And I'm capable of feeling this way all at the same time. I suppose Y fans can only do one."

Arrogant, self righteous, and a hater all at the same time.

Wow: The triple crown of pathetic

BYU will be fine without you - the question is: Can you do without BYU as your raison d'etre

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Naval Vet

"So? What's your point?"

The PACy-WACers would have been bowl eligible if they'd beaten the only WAC team they played.

It's laughable that Utah fans are still gauging the entire success of their program on whether or not they can beat BYU. Sorry to burst your PACy-WACer bubble, but one game does not a season make.

2012 BYU(8-5) bowl winner > Utah(5-7) no bowl
2011 BYU(10-3) ranked > Utah(8-5) unranked

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Yes phoenix we get it.
BYU fans like yourself are not satisfied with a top 5, top 10 or top 20 finish in the polls.
It's top 25 in the polls to just feel warm fuzzies all over. I think other teams that finish from 20-25 would aspire to do more. But BYU fans are just happy right where they are.

Right, one game does not a season make. So stop acting like winning the USU game is the nation title!

How did that San Jose St. beat down on national TV work for ya? LOL!

OCoug
Ogden, UT

Can't we just get along? All of the arguments from Y lovers and haters are pointless. I get it Naval Vet, Night Owl, etc. all hate BYU and everything about it. I also get that every Y fan on here loves BYU and everything about it. Enough. Talk about the article instead of each other.

Wally West
SLC, UT

re: RSLJAZZBYUUTAH 1-3-13

I think its byu who thought they were too good for the MWC.

byu couldn't IMO handle being a medium sized fish in a medium sized pond. They wanted to relive the past and be a goldfish in a petri dish.

Who's laughing now?

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Are you kidding me! the chances of BYU going back to the Mountain West are very slim at best. Their pride and arrogance simply would not allow it. That would be like admitting that they made a mistake by leaving in the first place. They simply could not admit that the move was not as divinely inspired as many claim, but instead a knee-jerk reaction to a PAC snub. Too much pride too little reality with cougar fans for this to ever happen.

cableboy764
Centennial, CO

Just to throw something out there from my source here in MWC country.

They are currently NOT seriously looking at ANY Texas schools.
They have spoke with SDSU often, very often since BSU has returned.
Tulsa looks to be a strong candidate to be invited in. And (gulp) NMSU.
They are interested in having BYU back, but not as interested as most of the posters here seem to think.
It also sounds to me like 14 teams is what the conference sees as an ideal amount.

Personally, I think BYU is better off staying independent in football. I see them having no trouble scheduling games with top programs. As a CSU and AFA fan here on the front range though, I'd love to have BYU back in the fold. Those decisions however are up to folks with a much bigger paycheck than mine. I think it will work out either way BYU plays it.

cableboy764
Centennial, CO

Just to throw something out there from my source here in MWC country.

They are currently NOT seriously looking at ANY Texas schools.
They have spoke with SDSU often, very often since BSU has returned.
Tulsa looks to be a strong candidate to be invited in. And (gulp) NMSU.
They are interested in having BYU back, but not as interested as most of the posters here seem to think.
It also sounds to me like 14 teams is what the conference sees as an ideal amount.

Personally, I think BYU is better off staying independent in football. I see them having no trouble scheduling games with top programs. As a CSU and AFA fan here on the front range though, I'd love to have BYU back in the fold. Those decisions however are up to folks with a much bigger paycheck than mine. I think it will work out either way BYU plays it.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

cableboy764:

I don't know who this source of yours is, but it just doesn't seem plausible to me that the MWC would prefer Tulsa and NMSU over Houston and SMU.

I would think that NMSU's only chance at obtaining an invite from the MWC would be if the Mtn. West also invited the Indy-WACers....in order to provide the cougs with an avenue to maintain their epic year-end matchup on Rivalry Weekend.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

Doubtful the MWC wants BYU back. I'd bet that 'source' indicated in the title of this article is some intern who works in marketing and is hoping for a bigger advertising dollar that BYU would generate as opposed to any other option.

Note to naval vet; don't fret what cableboy or anyone else might throw out about new conference members. Instead focus your energy (read, waste your time) worrying about the chances of your preferred school remaining in their current conference affiliation. Surely your BYU education could benefit you in looking for the positives in your chosen allegiance instead of burning up your time and emotions on bashing what you perceive as lesser programs. Good luck with life!

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