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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 1 2013 9:49 p.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Ok red,

Exact same question to you.

"So, tell me specifically,

What deductions/loopholes did Romney and/or Ryan say that they would close?"

Easy question. Will you dodge it again?

BTW, i went to romneytaxplan dot com as you suggested.

Hilarious. Go check it out. Best laugh all day. Thank you

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

@Worf - why don't we compare the state of the union in Bush's last quarter, and then the same this last quarter of Obama's. Lets look and see how the economy was doing in both? Lets take a look at housing. Jobs. Even deaths to militants... its a fun comparison.

Just try to take the partisan muck out of this, and look for real solutions.

And people.... this was not the final budget deal. All this deal did was to keep most of the Bush cuts in place. The sequestration mess is still a work in process with its deadline pushed 2 months from now. All these formulas you keep posting dont mean a dang thing. Yes, it is kicking the can 2 months down the road...but is surely better than the Houses solution which was nothing and would have immediately cost Americans about a million jobs....and taxes would have gone up for everyone, with a little new recession for added bonus.

But keep complaining. You do it so well. It is far easier to complain than to come up with real solutions, and be part of the solution.

A_Chinese_American
Cedar Hills, UT

When the $16,000,000,000,000.00 keep going up, do you guy see the cliff before you? How soon we will be there? 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, ... Tea Party is the only answer!

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Redshirt.... show us the plan then. where can we find this plan? I want to see it.

Here is another Republican view on where the inaction comes from... in today's press

"Christie declared: "Last night, the House majority failed most basic test of leadership and they did so with callous disregard to the people of my state. ... It was disappointing and disgusting to watch." He also unapologetically named names: "There's only one group to blame ... the House majority, and their Speaker, John Boehner." He added that the relief bill "just could not overcome the toxic internal politics of the House majority."

Under other house leadership, aid to New Orleans was done in 10 days. Aide to Florida, 20 days. Under the current "leadership".... two months past the hurricane not a single cent of aide released because the speaker refused to act. Why.... per haps just a little but of politics being played... post election payback? But the speaker isn't hurting Christie, he is hurting the people whose homes were washed away, their business destroyed..... future voters who will continue to not trust the house leadership.

Party over country.... the message is really clear.

NT
SomewhereIn, UT

Yes, where WAS the President when he should have been "presiding"?? The so-called "fiscal cliff" did not just appear a couple of weeks ago, did it.

Procrastinating this HUGE situation was certainly consistent with his record so far.

We can only imagine who the president would have been had he attempted to apply his community-organizing leadership skills a few months ago - when this SHOULD have been addressed.

Allowing something like this to be delayed until the very last minute - is NOT leadership, and is certainly NOT presidential.

Actually, I hope he got a 4 year Hawaiian golf pass for Christmas. Nobody would miss him.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Where? This morning I saw him on CNN, discussing the deal. Not a great deal, mind you, but something, anyway. And he was thanking the vice president for making the deal happen. Pretty good thinking on the presidents' part to put Joe in play. He knows how to get things done.

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

For every study there is a pro and a con. There is opposition in all things whether they be good or bad. We'll never know what Romney would have or wouldn't have done. We will find out soon how or what Mr. Obama will or won't do. He hasn't actually led though he did call meetings and force this upon us. The action taken if you read real carefully will raise the national debt another 4 trillion dollars over the next ten years. How can we continue to spend at that rate and work out a solution. Sure taxes were raised on what was a temporary solution for SS. Most Americans will though suffer for this increase. Maybe you ought to ask the man what he plans to do with retirement plans and Individual retirement accounts. His answer is to DO AWAY WITH them. Why, because companies especially the little ones get a tax deduction. Unfortunately, most can no longer afford them and with the tax increases many will not be able to save now. So again, more individuals who will become dependent upon the government for support. That is SOCIALISM.

suzyk#1
Mount Pleasant, UT

It's laughable to me that the President of the United States felt it was more important to go back to Hawaii and finish his Vacation. They are a disgrace and I worry and stress over what is going to happen to our wonderful United States of America...what will be left for our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren for them to enjoy. Our Military men and women deserve the upmost respect. How many of us would be willing to leave the comforts of our home and go to a foreign country and fight for what is precious to us? Give our life in defense of what we believe is good and true. The lack of respect Obama displays for our troops and our Constitution is heartbreaking. I pray every day that if it is the Lord's will things will change and we as citizens will feel hope in our future and the future of our families.

Newspaper Reader
Highland, UT

The recent happenings with our federal government led me to reflect on George Washington’s Farewell Address:

“…the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party [is] sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.”

“It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection.”

“All obstructions to the execution of the laws…serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.”

Wise words - we must beware of satisfying party interests rather than the best interests of our beautiful country.

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

It is hard to deal with a pres. who lies to the american people and then begins to believe his lies are true.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

The best you can garner from comments like this is Mr. Herbert has further political ambitions, and he is making sure he has the right talking points down pat... has done his job complaining.

I am wondering if he has done his part as suggested before, and offered up to the President areas where the State of Utah doesn't need as many federal dollars to help with the process.... otherwise comments like this are really just that, worth nothing, without putting some skin in the game. It sure is a lot easier to make pointless comments like this than to offer up areas where Utah can be part of the solution and offer up to cut some federal funds.

Perhaps he can start with turning down federal highway funds or the approximately $325 million in education dollars the state receives.... then he would be doing rather than just spewing partisan talking points.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

I Choose Freedom,

Did the constitution change when I wasn't looking and the President is now in control of the purse strings? It was always my understanding that congress had to approve all spending bills.

I guess believing that congress is in charge of spending money would make me one of those low information voters that Rush always talks about.

worf
Mcallen, TX

JoeBlow,

Sorry guy. You do your own homework. The specifics were clear, and very good. We would have seen positive economic growth in just the first week after the election had Romney won.

The fear of taxation, regulations, and Obama care are keeping investments down with fears of lay-offs. This is just one clue.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Herbert should be asking "WHERE WAS CONGRESS?"

The President's plan has been out there a long time. Several months. Congress writes and passes legislation. Republicans made it clear as soon as Obama was elected and inaugurated they weren't going to work with him. So, Democrats got busy and did as much as they could do in the 72 days they had a filibuster proof majority. Other than that, Congress has done nothing. Republicans have nothing.

As for the Republican Party, the insane have been in charge of the asylum.

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

Well done Gov. Herbert. The State of the State says it all. Well done.

Lledrav
West Jordan, UT

I'm amazed at the people who approve of Obama in this deal. His party has not passed a budget for years. He has been awol and even insulting in his lack of leadership. While campaigning he promised to cut the deficit but does just the opposite. To all of you who approve of his incompetence, how much debt is acceptable to you ? when should we reduce spending?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "UtahBlueDevil" did you read about all the non-relief pork that was added to the bills that have been submitted? Would you have been ok with a bill for the hurricaine relief that included a funding to study albino squirrls in Oregon?

If you want to see why they have not done anything, look at the entire leadership in Washington. It all comes from the top down. The President who once stated that he would work hard to get the economy going, stayed in town long enough to see the final debates on the bill, then left before signing the bill itself. The leader of the House took his cues for the priority of hurricaine relief from the President. The President got his photo ops, now the problem is not so important anymore.

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

There is a lot of talk about the aid to hurricane Sandy victims -- However there isn't much talk about people taking some responsibility for themselves -- knowing where they lived many had no Insurance ---If we are going to live in places where is a good possibility of such disaster we need to be as prepared as possible or move some where else and let those who can afford to live in that area with such a high risk take the risk rather than the American Taxpayer. -- I'm all for helping those affected but I don't think we spend the money very wisely ----. We can rebuild and get washed out next year or the year after --- we all need to do better in our preparation instead of always look to the govt.to correct our poor decisions.

kishkumen
American Fork, UT

Stop insulting us, Herbert. We followed the fiscal cliff situation for weeks. We saw our president lead, and be part of a solution that received support from all three branches. We are not idiots. We know that you, Mike Lee, Jason Chaffetz all want to shut everything down, and then trick people into thinking it was another person's fault. We're not stupid.

dwayne
Provo, UT

Truthseeker,

"Mike Lee and other favorites of the Tea Party are the problem."

The problem is those who want government to do more than it should be doing and who think that compromise will somehow solve this problem instead of straightforward solutions. This problem is what COMPROMISE gets you. We wouldn't be here if more intelligent people were in Congress and people didn't compromise with people like you.

"When you send people to Congress who believe compromise is evil, you get gridlock. Gridlock can destroy our country by making it impossible to solve our problems."

So are you saying that its those who refuse to compromise who are making it impossible to solve our problems then just compromise with them and give them what they want and solve our countrys problems or stop acting like you want compromise when what you really want is to get your way.

But you diagnosed the problem. Its people who who wont compromise with intolerable people. Compromise is apparently the word of the day and those who wont let you institute policies that harm America are the problem.

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