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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 1 2013 9:49 p.m. MST

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toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Sorry, Governor, but anyone who pins their hopes for America's future on the US Congress is going to be disappointed. We need to do things without the fed, not get into bed with them. As you have noted, thay are dysfunctional and the less we depend upon them the better.

worf
Mcallen, TX

He's golfing with Waldo.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Gov. Herbert

Mike Lee and other favorites of the Tea Party are the problem.

I suggest you look within your own state and think long and hard about who gets sent to Congress from your state. Governing requires compromise. When you send people to Congress who believe compromise is evil, you get gridlock. Gridlock can destroy our country by making it impossible to solve our problems.

E. Hindman
Ogden, UT

Seriously? Gary Herbert is questioning a lack of leadership in Washington and there are many Utahns questioning the lack of leadership in SLC.

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

Seriously Governor????
You haven't noticed the lack of support from the Congress, where there is a Republican stalemate basically at every turn???
You don't remember the pack Senator McConnell and his cronies made to impede anything that came from Obama???
You didn't hear about Bohners Plan B that your party rejected so strongly that there was never a vote taken on it???
You don't know that this Congress has the worst record in history for getting things done??
You haven't heard that this Congress has a national approval rating of a whopping 12%????
Perhaps you should subscribe to the Deseret News and follow the events of our nation.

worf
Mcallen, TX

owlmaster2,

* You don't remember Obama investigating fast & furious?
* You don't remember the deficit was going to be cut in half.

We could make a long list, can't we?

Europe
Topeno, Finland

Sadly NOTHING has, nor will it, changed in DC. Obama has his mandate after lying about everything to get the presidency... at the cost of everything. So what did he do? Party, played Golf, flew to Hawaii (at the cost of millions and robbing Christmas from hundreds of parents who guarded/ serviced him). The saddest thing is, that the US is in such a bad situation ... worse than Greece... financially. The fiscal cliff has not been cancelled, but deepened! Romney had a plan, but nobody wanted to hear about...

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Romney had a plan, but nobody wanted to hear about..."

We asked REPEATEDLY to hear about it. We asked and asked for the details.

All we got was

"I will lower taxes by 20% and balance the budget by closing deduction, while increasing military spending."

Never once did we hear how this would be accomplished. And we were skeptical because it sounded too good to be true. And we all know that it was.

Oh yes. We did want to hear his plan. Every one of us.

And we asked and asked and asked......

jfreed27
Los Angeles, CA

I guess he missed the "Meet the Press" interview with Obama, who was pretty clear about his position.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

When Gov. Herbert shows us exactly how he'll cut federal spending to make a significant dent in the deficit - then and only then will I take him seriously.

Tell you what - ask Gov. Herbert how he'd react if congress were to say, "OK, we'll get serious about cutting budgets. We're shutting down Hill Air Force Base. And that gajillion dollar NSA building in south Salt Lake County? Cancelled. We don't need it and we can't afford it."

How about that, Governor?

one old man
Ogden, UT

Congress is AWOL.

Obama is finally standing up against the GOP, Grover, the Tea Party and other things he should have been fighting harder to overcome for four years.

Maybe now that Obama seems to have found some backbone, some progress might begin.

In the meantime, the good Governor is still wearing his blinders and spouting the party line of obstruction and fibs.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Governor Herbert is absolutely right, Obama has not been a leader, in fact he is more of a thug than anything resembling a leader.

But, this reflects the huge split in our country.

Some, but too few, thoughtful and fact based people recognize that we are out of money and mired in debt, and can no longer spend like we have, nor support the entitlement programs that have gotten us to this point.

Many, rightly characterized as driven by well-intentioned emotions, or low information voters who only care about getting "free stuff" and screwing the "evil rich," think there is an endless supply of tax dollars and every need, desire or luxury can and should be supplied by the government. Without a clue as to how to pay for it, or the consequences for failing to pay, they have succeeded in spending us to a level of indebtedness from which we cannot recover.

Governor Herbert is right, and Utah's economic success and sound financial management confirm that. Well done, Governor and Legislators. But our frugality is jeopardized by the reckless spenders in Washington.

worf
Mcallen, TX

JoeBlow,

I heard it several times. Where were you?

Obama, and the press are great at demonizing people.

Romney easily would have kept his word. The economy is not that difficult to fix, but will soon be.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

What on earth is Herbert talking about? Obama has been extremely engaged in the negotiation process with Congress. Could it be that Herbert just doesn't like the outcome of the fiscal cliff deal, but won't say it? Or maybe he despises Obama because his hard work processed a deal that exposed too much of a certain party's incompetence and lack of teamwork?

Anyway, all this finger pointing from our officials is getting so tiresome. And at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I have to say that I am as disappointed as Herbert is in the lack of leadership and accomplishment in Washington -- which I squarely blame on the platform of obstructionism which seems to be the only thing the Republican Party can pull together.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

2013 starts out with the BAD fiscal cliff deal that really hurts everyone. I suspect this is going to be the norm for the next 4 years... bad deal after bad deal after bad deal. But realize the BAD DEAL is only for those who work and pay taxes - for the rest of the non-tax paying and non working crowd who live off government freebee's everything is rosy. What's wrong with getting free stuff? So 50% of America (maybe more) is pretty happy right now. Also people talk about compromise. Compromise is good IF what both sides are proposing has some merit but when one side is so obviously wrong and damaging then compromise does more harm than good. I see Obama bending on NOTHING. NOTHING!! Is that compromise? I guess in Obama's mind compromise means surrender your values and adopt mine. How would that attitude work in a marriage? In a corporation? Barack is a novice green horn who hasn't run a thing in his life so understanding the art of compromise is beyond him. Living by strict ideology - from left or right - is lethal.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"I heard it several times. Where were you?"

I was listening. Maybe you heard something that I did not.

So, tell me specifically,

What deductions/loopholes did Romney and/or Ryan say that they would close?

Specifics please

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Patriot
According to the Tax Policy Center, more than 60% of those non-income tax paying households did pay federal payroll taxes.

Of the 18.1% of U.S. households that paid neither income nor payroll taxes? More than half of them were headed by a senior–in other words, by someone who paid payroll taxes and likely some income taxes too, in the past.

Btw
Grover Norquist favored passage of the Senate bill, stating technically it wasn't a tax increase (since taxes were going up), but was actually a tax cut. Even "wealthy" people benefit from the lower tax rates on lower levels of income.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Patriot
According to the Tax Policy Center, more than 60% of those non-income tax paying households did pay federal payroll taxes.

Of the 18.1% of U.S. households that paid neither income nor payroll taxes? More than half of them were headed by a senior–in other words, by someone who paid payroll taxes and likely some income taxes too, in the past.

Btw
Grover Norquist favored passage of the Senate bill, stating technically it wasn't a tax increase (since taxes were going up), but was actually a tax cut. Even "wealthy" people benefit from the lower tax rates on lower levels of income.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "JoeBlow" don't like and say you were listening to Romney's plans for cutting taxes and balancing the budget when you obviously were not. Your ignorance of facts is not our fault, that is your own. The web site romney tax plan dot com is still active, and can get you the information that you refused to get during the election.

I Choose Freedom
Atlanta, GA

$41 in new taxes for every $1 in spending cuts. We are over $16 Trillion in debt with Obama adding almost $6 Trillion of that amount in just four years. Not his fault some of you will say? Well what has he done about it? He is the President and the buck stops at his desk.

Yes, Obama is keeping his word to "fundamentally change" the USA.

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