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Published: Monday, Dec. 31 2012 1:25 p.m. MST

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3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Let's see, hmmm will BYU return. The other league members were incredibly (in a hypocritical sort of way) critical of BYU's move, even though in the world of College football it made perfect sense. Craig Thompson is still in charge of the MWC and he was very clear about his feelings towards BYU. Utah State was about the only school that defended BYU and told the truth when everyone else was spinning and accusing for more money.

So I'm guessing everyone got what they deserved, BYU has had great success with independence, making a ton of money for itself. Craig Thomspon will have to say sorry and leave his "socialism" model behind and pay BYU what they are worth to a league, if he wants them back. The WCC is thanking BYU for it's HD tv facilities and rabid fan support, and ESPN is thanking BYU for their fan base to (i.e. tv ratings) for each season.

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

I do not think the Cougars should go back to the MWC but who knows anymore. I do like their independence and the idea of a scheduling agreement with the MWC but believe they should only play 3-4 games a year against the MWC and have an additional agreement with the Big 12 for 2 games and the PAC 12 for 2 games. THey already seem to play that type of schedule anyway. Putting it into a contract would make better sense, you simply replace the WAC teams from the 1st 2 years with a few additional MWC teams. They already have BSU and UtSt on their schedule for several years and have talked with UNLV latelty. That is 3 MWC teams. Add a 4th each year and with 2 Big 12 teams and 2 PAC 12 teams you have 8 games scheduled. Play a Div 2 team a Conf USA team and a few other bigger programs in either the SEC or ACC and they are golden for scheduling as an independent.

I do however like BYU Bball back in the MWC. WCC gyms are like playing in HS! Bring back the PIT and UNLV!

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Utah State was about the only school that defended BYU and told the truth when everyone else was spinning and accusing for more money.

So I'm guessing everyone got what they deserved, BYU has had great success with independence, making a ton of money for itself. Craig Thomspon will have to say sorry and leave his "socialism" model behind and pay BYU what they are worth to a league, if he wants them back. The WCC is thanking BYU for it's HD tv facilities and rabid fan support, and ESPN is thanking BYU for their fan base to (i.e. tv ratings) for each season.

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3grandslams you just struck out. Have you seen BYUs TV ratings this season? Nothing to boast about. USU had a higher bowl game rating than BYU! In addition its humorous to think back to when BYU went indy. BYU supporters were saying that BYU is not about the money. Yet here they are clinging to an ESPN contract and looking for a better conference deal for more money.

USNGary
South Jordan, UT

WAC PADDING
Have you seen and heard the ESPN people talking about the ratings BYU brought in throughout the season? A ton better than any pac team brought in, oh yeah, forgot, couldn't see any pac teams play nationally this year.

Thidder
MAPLETON, UT

I agree BYU will not return to the MWC. They will instead pave the way to excellence as the best managed intramural school in the country. Schools will flock to BYU to see how to get of the BCS treadmill and focus on educating students while providing quality physical fitness for more students. BYU and intramural sports, a match made in heaven.

COUGARNATE
Lyman, WY

Let me get this right the MWC is allowing Boiae St. to keep their home football rights, yet they would not let BYU do the same. The MWC is very desperate now. BYU has a bigger fan base, bigger tv market and a its own tv network, and the MWC is catering to Boise St. What would they allow BYU to do now, just about anything probably.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I think taxpayers of Idaho should be angry if one red cent to pay off the Big East came from the school or even athletic program. Colleges and universities are there to first and foremost to educate, not make to make BCS bowls...

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

USNGary

"WAC PADDING - Have you seen and heard the ESPN people talking about the ratings BYU brought in throughout the season? A ton better than any pac team brought in, oh yeah, forgot, couldn't see any pac teams play nationally this year."
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"Talking about the ratings" versus what the ratings actually are, must be two very different things in this case. The fact is, BYU game ratings on ESPN this year were disappointing. And then there's this:

The BYU/San Diego State Poinsettia Bowl drew 2.2 million viewers on ESPN, down 29% from TCU/Louisiana Tech last year (3.1M), and down 38% from San Diego State/Navy in 2010 (3.6M). The game ranks as the least-viewed Poinsettia Bowl since at least 2006 (viewership prior to 2007 was not available).

Perhaps the lowest rated Poinsettia Bowl ever ... OUCH!!

And by the way, if you couldn't see any PAC-12 teams playing nationally this year, you must be living under a rock.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

While jealous BYU-haters like wacpaddled and motorbike cluelessly whine about how "disappointed" ESPN is with BYU, this is what ESPN actually had to say about BYU:

"NOTHING could be further from the truth," said Ilan Ben-Hanan, ESPN’s vice president of programming and acquisitions. "We are THRILLED with our partnership with BYU. And I don’t use that word lightly. We are GENUINELY THRILLED."

Of course, our jealous little friends on the hill like to pretend that they know more than the people who actually write the checks, but what else would you expect from them when reality intrudes on their delusions.

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

So, what concessions were given BSU? They were demanding rebroadcasting rights and I think Home game Broadcasting. I suppose they were granted at least some of that.

As long as Thompson is around, BYU won't be rejoining the MWC.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Snack PAC

1. The BYU ratings were not impressive at all.
2. Yes the ESPN exec said that. But what do you expect them to say? it's their money. They are not going to openly say that ratings are not what they expected. You can bet they are talking about it though.
3. Both the Idaho Potato Bowl and the Poinsettia Bowl were on ESPN. As mentioned before, the USU game got a 2.8 rating while BYU was 2.2. The alleged national brand got beat by that little ol' school in Logan. LOL!

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Snack PAC,

It's you that's delusional if you think ESPN would say anything other than what was said by Ilan Ben-Hananthat. What are they going to do, publicly step all over a team they still have a contract with to continue broadcasting? That doesn't make much sense now does it?
By the way, I never said ESPN wasn't happy with the BYU relationship, I only mentioned the truth, which is that ratings have not been great. For all I know, ESPN may love BYU more than Alabama.
Lastly, you're also delusional if you think I'm jealous of BYU ... that was pretty funny though.

sammyg
Springville, UT

I love the Ute smack talk about ratings of bowl games.

I'm dying to hear the 'couch potato bowl' ratings.

I'm ecstatic for USU's ratings, they deserved them even after BYU beat them.

It's sad that some Ute fans are having a hard time dealing with their disappointing season. Somebody please remind them about their 'participation trophies, they are called PAC12 lightpole banners.

USU (WAC) paddled my Utes---

"Yet here they are clinging to an ESPN contract and looking for a better conference deal for more money."

Can you verify that? I didn't think so.

I think the real untold story is how Utah should give money back to PAC10 original teams for breach of contract... impersonating as a football and basketball power house.

And back to the real story...

Tom Holmoe's in the driver's seat on the big BYU bus. He sure avoided that B.E. pot hole didn't he?

While the kids from 'the hill' in the 'short bus' look at the fading PAC12 banners and look at the pretty lights downtown SLC... it was a sad holiday post-season and a longer winter to Spring camp.

Basketball anyone?

LOL

souptwins
Lindon, UT

BYU would go back to the MWC under certain conditions but I don't see those conditions ever coming to pass. Staying Indy for now is the best option.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Basketball anyone?

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Sure, can't wait for BYU to come to Spokane; and vice versa.

As far as the MWC goes, BYU should only re-join if a BCS bid is issued to the conference. They should give the Big East's bid to the MWC, especially if BYU and Boise State are in the conference.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

Glad to have Boise stay. The MWC is going to be a great conference for USU. Already looking forward to next fall.

UTAuley
Taylorsville, UT

So even though BSU never played a single down as a member of the Big East, they have to pay a $10 million fine just so that they can remain a member of their current conference! And that, boys and girls, is why you should always read the small print in a contract. The Big East (or more their lawyers) are going to make a nice little payday out of all this before going belly up.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@Nightillamerica
"The alleged national brand got beat by that little ol' school in Logan. LOL!"

That's funny. I guess that's how bad it's gotten up on the hill. They no longer focus on winning where it counts, on the field. Since those types of victories are getting harder to come by their fans are now including moral victories, ratings victories and living vicariously through other teams in order to feel better about their season.

Oh well, for those ute fans there's always basketba.....oops, never mind, there's always women's gymnastics season to cheer them up.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

BigCougar,

Yeah, we Ute fans are just horribly embarrassed by missing a bowl game for the first time in 10 years ... and while playing a big boy schedule to boot.
Call us when your team gets to a bowl game after playing a schedule like Utah just played - it might not ever happen. That's okay though, better to go to a bowl game than play a difficult schedule, right?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

COUGARNATE:

"Let me get this right the MWC is allowing Boiae St. to keep their home football rights, yet they would not let BYU do the same."

You are correct. The MWC most certainly WAS very determined to keep Boise St. in the conference, but not that concerned about keeping the Indy-WACers. Hopefully, the MWC either keeps the Y out, or at the very least, levies a very STEEP membership fee to join.

BigIndyWACer:

"I guess that's how bad it's gotten up on the hill. They no longer focus on winning where it counts, on the field...their fans are now including moral victories, ratings victories and living vicariously through other teams in order to feel better about their season."

Funny I never heard you address this phenomenom whenever Y fans -- aka, the 54-10 loser types -- lived vicariously through the Colorado program after the Buffs upset the Utes at RES last season. And "moral victories"? Isn't that what folks around your part of the country call "Poppinga victories", after former-coug Kelly Poppinga? "Ratings victories"? What about all the "exposure" and "attendance" talk your fans repeat ad nauseum every year? Typical hypocritical coug.

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