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Published: Monday, Dec. 31 2012 10:40 a.m. MST

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Just Smiling
BOUNTIFUL, UT

BC- why do I have a feeling you've never played athletics before and spent your time in the math class???? You love statistics and rankings(which are worthless after the top 10- after that it is win/loss record no matter how mickey mouse your schedule is). That's why they play the game - If you win 3 out of 3 games in the last 3 years....you're better!Next year with a little harder schedule (still not as difficult as a PAC-12 schedule) will change your statistical and ranking banter. I'm sure you will then go back to the 1980's and a national championship win over a non-ranked team for your argument.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

agb, you may want to check how the topic of football got brought up before posting to save yourself the embarrassment of finding out after.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Hahahaha! We've got some serious blue-goggled dreamers out today. I love how each and every one of you has to try and spin the 3 point victory over Utah as something other than what it really is ... a game showing how very closely talented these 2012-13 rosters actually are.
The funniest thing of all, it's you exact fans that continually claim that your football team is not only close to as good as Utah when BYU loses the close games to Utah, but you in fact claim your team is better! So which is it guys, you can't have it both ways?! Oh wait, you're BYU fans so you actually can have it both ways. LOL!
Deal with it, Utah is nearly as good as your cougars this year and would compete similarly in the terrible WCC. I'm sorry this is hurting your precious egos so very, very much.

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

motorbike

As hard as it is for our crimson-goggled friends on the hill to come to grips with, BYU is better in football, and MUCH better in basketball, than the Utes.

We know that's hard on mighty weak Ute egos, but that's just the way it is.

It's laughable that Utah fans beat their chests every time the Utes beat a ranked team, then pretend that rankings don't matter when BYU is ranked.

Here's a clue: BYU BEAT a Top 25 team THIS YEAR, finished with a better record, and won a bowl, while the Utes finished with a losing record and no bowl.

Only a delusional Utah fan would even try to argue that Utah had a better football team this year.

I'm sorry this is hurting your precious egos, but that's just the way it is.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

PAC man

So there is no proof that switching schedules would have improved Utah's record.... as you tell us who exactly Utah would have lost to on BYU's schedule, even though you have no proof. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Personally I like Utah's chances against USU if that game had been played in RES, I also think Utah could have beaten GT (again) and SJSU. We do know that Wazzu was a win, and that Weber, Idaho, NMSU, Hawaii would most likely be wins as well. As for the rest, who really knows? There is a reason they play the game.....

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

agb

Let's talk basketball Mr. Helper. Care to discuss last nights game? So many of you BYU fans said Utah was going to get crushed. No where to be found today; typical.

agb
Layton, UT

StGtoSlc :

I checked. It was DH who brought up the score of BYU ND as an analogy to prove a point about bball. From there it was u fans who steered the conversation to players in the nfl etc.

The only embarrassment is u fan denial about the current state off affairs with the bball team.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

agb

Do you often come on Utah threads to try and pick a fight? Who's in denial about the current state of affairs with Utah Hoops? Utah lost a close game, on the rosd, to a good ASU team. Utah basketball is on the up swing. Nothing emabarrassing about that. Not near as emabarrassing as trolling your rivals thread and trying to start an agruement. That's not only emabarrassing, but really quite sad.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

agb, I'll give you a hint: start at the beginning of the comments section.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Duckhunter,

"It starts with a trouncing tonight"

Care to check in and explain what happened? I guess we now know who's wearing the shaded goggles.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@motorbike

Sure I'll check in, they lost. Again. Kind of pathetic when the only consolation you can take is that I said they would get "trounced" and then they managed to keep it close, yet still LOST. Congratulations?

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Duckhunter ...

Yes they indeed did lose, very observant of you, you're getting better at this. But in the process of a one point loss in overtime it also pulled the carpet out from under your argument about where Utah currently stands in their rebuilding process and ability to compete with good competition.
Don't worry though, despite your prediction of a blowout, no one expects you to admit to having misguided opinions anytime soon - we've come to know you better than that.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@ motorbike

Bingo!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@motorbike

They lost. Sorry to have to break it to you but they LOST. LOL!

I admit they didn't get "trounced" but your assertion about "ability to compete with good competition" is an LOL! gem. asu is not "good competition" they only won 10 games last year and played a crappy schedule similar to utah's this year in a feeble attempt to get some pre-season "wins". They played 11 of their 13 pre season games AT HOME against some extremely bad teams. 2 of their games came at a neutral site in a tourney so they played exacly 1 road game.

Their schedule consisted of a whose who of bad teams. Just like utah's.

I find it interesting how utah "fans" like yourself want to ignore the abysmal schedules utah and other pac12 teams are playing and pretend that their records somehow indicate that they are good. If you are going to play almost all of your games at home against bad teams then you are going to win most of them. Congratulations?

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Duckhunter,

I agree, ASU is not a team that will be world beaters this year ... but the fact remains that you predicted a blowout. At least you finally admitted the obvious which is that Utah didn't get trounced, this alone is progress from you.

Look, in all seriousness, no one, including me, is saying Utah is incredible. They're far from incredible. But it's not difficult for unbiased eyes to see that the Utes aren't far below BYU's level this year. They're still below, but not by much.
Now depending on which new recruits stay home from missions and which missionaries return, BYU could take a nice step forward next year that Utah may not be able to match with new recruits etc. But again, THIS year, teams such as Utah and ASU would be right behind BYU in the WCC standings as much as you don't want to admit it. It's really Gonzaga and then a giant step down to St Mary's and BYU. Santa Clara will prove to be weak and the rest of the field is not good at all.
Just the facts, that's all I'm saying.

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