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Sen. Mike Lee: President Obama playing 'political games' during fiscal cliff negotiations

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 1, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    louie,

    Never trust "the vast majority". They are easily deceived.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 1, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    Lets step back and look at what happened. Taxes for everyone making under $100,000 will go up by 2% (FICA tax holiday ending). The person making a million dollars a year will see his FICA tax go up by .2%. It is true that his income tax will increase by 3.6%. If we let the Bush tax cuts become permanent for everyone, and allow the FICA holiday to expire, then the majority of Americans will see their taxes increase by 2% while the richest 1% of Americans would see their taxes increase by .2% or less.

    The republicans want everyone to have skin in the game, well guess what in this proposal they do. Some of you may want to differentiate FICA from Income tax, but for me a tax is a tax, I don't care what you call it. The millionaires will be paying 3.62% more and the middle class will be paying 2% more. That makes more sense than the middle class paying 2% more and millionaires .2%.

    I am not sure why republicans didn't embrace this concept from the beginning.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 1, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Here is the blarney of most of these comments...... no one aspect, tax increase or spending cut, will mount to more than a fractional percentage of the problem. Anyone who thinks they cut there way to a booming economy seriously hasn't studied up enough - with the government amounting to 34 percent of the economy, even a decrease in economic activity will send us back into rescission.

    Likewise, we can't increase taxes enough to cancel out the over spending of the past. There is no silver bullet. It will be a long, and patience testing task to hold back spending, restraint on borrowing, and growth of income through increased income to get thins into balance.

    any comment in the extreme shows a complete misunderstanding of the global economic factors in play here.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 1, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    The vast majority of Americans agree with Obama. Get over it.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:09 p.m.

    Meckofahess,

    You are absolutely right. Every one in Cuba, Greece, Spain, etc, have excess to healthcare.

    In Cuba, the government runs the businesses, because the people really didn't build it.

    It's thinking like yours that's transforming the country. Thanks for your patriotism.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 3:05 p.m.

    All Senator Lee has done since he was elected is play political games. I am so tired of the Congress we as lazy Americans have elected. It's time we start new and get rid of who we have "serving" us, because they are only serving their own political grandstanding.

  • Kelliebelle66 West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 2:52 p.m.

    Obama's finger pointing at the Republicans is his effort to pass the buck instead of take responsibility. Is anyone in this country aware that the Republican controlled House of Representatives passed a proposal that actually allowed the tax hikes on the wealthy but asked for spending cuts? But because President "I want no debt ceiling" Obama didn't want that the bill has stalled in the Senate which is controlled by Democrats. Now most middle class families will have to pay an additional $2400 in income taxes this year. I also think that Obama really doesn't understand how the wealthy do provide jobs and what effect tax increases may have on business. Several companies my husband has worked for have been owned and financed by someone who is wealthy. His current employer is self made and has put his money into several high tech enterprises. The company my husband works for was purchased by this man when it was in trouble. Now he is guaranteeing people get paid, have benefits, and generally running things so they have been able to keep going and develop new products which helps the economy.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 2:46 p.m.

    There is no leadership for our country. We are in a sorry condition. Our hopes are in giving the states the power to govern. The Federal system is mired down without leadershsip and we as a nation are going down the tube, plus, we are broke.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Dec. 31, 2012 2:08 p.m.

    I believe Mike Lee did a "short sale" on his house this year and walked away from some $400,000 in loans. I'm not convinced that someone who can't manage his own finances without repudiating debt should be pointing fingers at others who are struggling to solve problems that people like our junior Senator helped create.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 1:40 p.m.

    mcdugall:
    "Will the increased tax revenue reduce the deficit by any substantial amount?"

    The tax increase on the wealthy will cover the equivalent of about 8 days of government spending. And it will not be used to pay down the national debt. It will be used, instead, to grow the government.

    Furthermore, as others on this thread have pointed out, the tax on the wealthy will have the net effect of killing jobs. The wealthy create the jobs. No one has ever obtained a job from the poor in our economy.

    The problem is, the uninformed voter (meaning basically the Democrat voter) doesn't know how our economy functions. They hear 'tax the rich' and they say 'yeah, do it, we need more tax money so we can stay home drawing unemployment and getting more food stamps.'

    Our national debt is beyond repair. It will continue to grow until we can borrow no more, at which point this country is doomed. It may take a few years but we'll get there.

    Thanks Democrats, you've killed us.

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    Senator Mike Lee has no business accusing somebody of playing games. That is all he knows how to do! He doesn't legistlate; nor does he lead. He plays games. And we pay for his games.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    Senator Lee- provide details on what you would like to cut. Did you vote to continue the agriculture subsidy? How would your constituents feel if they had to pay $7.00 for a gallon of milk? Let's get serious we don't need milk subsidies or a military that spends more than all other countries in the world combined. You all have your sacred cows but Americans are the ones that are getting slaughterd by politicans like you.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 11:37 a.m.

    mcdugall:
    "Will the increased tax revenue reduce the deficit by any substantial amount?"

    The tax increase on the wealthy will cover the equivalent of about 8 days of government spending. And it will not be used to pay down the national debt. It will be used to grow the government.

    Furthermore, as others on this thread have pointed out, the tax on the wealthy will have the net effect of killing jobs. The wealthy create the jobs. No one has ever gotten a job from the poor in our economy.

    The problem is, the uninformed voter (meaning basically the Democrat voter) doesn't know how our economy functions. They hear 'tax the rich' and they say 'yeah, do it, we need more tax money so we can stay home drawing unemployment and getting more food stamps.'

    Our national debt is beyond repair. It will continue to grow until we can borrow no more, at which point this country is doomed. It may take a few years but we'll get there.

    Thanks Democrats, you've killed us.

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    Mr. Lee if and when you ever decide to be an actual representative of the people rather than a puppet of the far right wing of your party and actually participate in the legislative process please just keep quiet. Better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Senator Lee your proposal is????????? let me guess kick the president...shift the blame.

    It would be nice to see someone who is elected to step up and lead, seems Utah has elected another jackal.

    We elected these people to stop and solve issues like this...too bad we cannot stop their checks until they fix it and do their job instead of running from microphone to microphone.

    At the end of the day I do not care who or what party fixes the problem, the problem has been identified and you have been elected so do what it takes to do your job and at the end of the day you can reflect back and see what you could have done differently.

    get involved in the fray, lead out, we will elect you again if you distinguish yourself rather than play party politics til the bitter end.

    you can be right but you need not be dead right

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 31, 2012 10:29 a.m.

    What in Tucket?,

    "....The big problem is spending has to be at least slowed down a little....."
    ____________________

    Conservatives justifiably argue that government must be as small as it can be. Liberals justifiably argue that government must be as large as it needs to be. These two different emphases that make common ground so elusive drive a test of wills that make the fiscal cliff more difficult and less unthinkable to steer clear of. Congress created this hazard and the need to placate their bases needs to be brought under control.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 31, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    Until Obama seriously addresses his spending woes, no tax increase is going to solve the problem. Lee is dead on. Obama is simply content on continuing to kick the can down the road.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 10:03 a.m.

    Both parties are playing chicken and the American people are like the girl holding the flag to start the race but too stupid to move out of the way...

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    The senate has been in charge of the Democrats a rather long sorry time. Taxes on the rich won't help anyone,, but I would compromise at $500,000. It would be better if we could give a benefit to small business. The big problem is spending has to be at least slowed down a little. This can't go on. Regulations and red tape are also piling up.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 31, 2012 9:44 a.m.

    @Redshirt - your comments are belly rollers in light of McConnell filibustering his own bill just 2 weeks ago. You take on this it is the Democrats fault for accepting his bill, allowing it to come to the floor, then McConnell himself filibustering it. Or perhaps it is the Democrats that are responsible for the good speaker of the houses own plan "B" was pulled from the docket because he couldn't get enough support from his own side.... yes..... it's all the democrats fault. Perhaps a little objectivity in your recollection would help. These all happened in the last 2 weeks.

    Then there is the silly quote that Obama never compromises. When ever someone refers to something as "never", you pretty much can discredit those comments, because in the real world, no one ever acts the same way every time. You might be able to say using "never" is never accurate.

    Just like now one is all good, and now one is always evil. But it would be so nice if the world were organized into two nicely defined camps. Sure makes it easy.... just not accurate.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    Hmmmm .... and refusing to even talk of ending the tax cuts on the rich is considered negotiating? Wow, the pot is calling the kettle black.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Dec. 31, 2012 9:05 a.m.

    Senator Lee and his GOP fellows know how to play games themselves and have been all along. Why does he suppose the American people are so disgusted? This fiscal cliff isn't something that sneaked up on us and caught us by surprise. We've known for months the exact date on which we would reach the cliff and all the while Congress sat on its hands doing nothing. They had time to go home to campaign for re-election in their own districts, didn't they?

    The fiscal cliff is a creature of Congressional making. Lee knows that.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 9:02 a.m.

    It sounds like a lot of people in the comments section is drinking the poison kool-aid of the Democratic party and the Obama administration. I, for one, think that Senator Lee and representative Chaffetz are being too kind to Obama in saying he is playing political games with the fiscal cliff negotiations. Obama is nothing but political in his approach to everything. He had no interest in solving a problem with our nations finances and he had no plan other than a failed policy that will bankrupt the nation. The Democratic party is responsible for leading us in a fiscal crisis four years ago and they have not lifted their foot off the pedal in speeding toward fiscal calamity. If the Democrats and the Obama administration had a real plan, they would have submitted it by now. Otherwise, they are just playing games in order to make the Republicans appear in the most negative light as possible.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    None of our current Utah legislators have any cred in Congress. They'll I'll vote against the eventual solution saying we could have done better. Seriously folks, we put Utah politcans into office instead of citizen legislators. Why do we pay their benefits?

  • Makid Kearns, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    Redshirt: The Senate has tried to have votes on many items that come out of the House, unfortunately, there are more filibusters that have been called in the last 2 years than in the previous 50 years combined.

    Of those filibusters, 95% of them were called by Republicans. The Senate Republicans were filibustering nearly all bills, be them Democratic or Republican in nature. They just didn't want any votes to be on the record.

    Look at what the Senate Republicans did to a bill that would just affirm the current law and standing of the Americans with Disabilities Act. They filibustered it for no reason, there wasn't even any law change or act included in the bill, just an acknowledgement that the original act was the right thing to do.

    The Senate has already passed a bill that would extend the tax cuts for 98% of the Country and left in place the spending cuts. The House won't even consider a vote on it. Why?

  • kishkumen American Fork, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    Senator Lee, please stop reminding us how sorry we are for electing you. Please keep your mouth shut the rest of your term, and then we will replace you with someone who will not continually embarrass our state. By the way, negotiating is not a political game. It is a basic skill that we require of all of our legislators.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:51 a.m.

    Lee and the rest of the Republicans dish it out, and then when they don't act and get called out on it, they act surprised? Are you kidding me? The GOP is the big obstacle, and even many Republicans and conservative commentators think the GOP in Congress is the problem. If Lee wants a deal, let there be a vote on the Senate floor without a Republican filibuster. It will be done very quickly. Lee and his fellow Republicans are the problem, not the President. Good grief!

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:37 a.m.

    To "Reasonable Person" senator Lee may be part of the biggest Do-nothing congress in history, but look at why. The Democrat leaders don't allow votes on anything that comes out of the house.

    To "LDS Liberal" again with the lies. See "Senator Lee forced to sell ‘dream home’ in short sale" in the SLTrib. A short sale is not the same as foreclosure. Even the liberal's newspaper doesn't agree with you. He sold his house because he took a PAY CUT to be a senator. He manned up and has paid the price for his choices.

    To "Meckofahess" how has Obama looked out for the little guy? He is only making people more dependent on the government. If he was truly concerned about the little guy wouldn't we have higher labor force participation rates or fewer people on food stamps? You also missed out on the reports showing that under Obama income for the average American is less. If anything, Obama has shown his concern for getting power and keeping it.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:31 a.m.

    There are very few words that can be used to accurately describe the hypocrisy and lopsided thinking of Senator Lee. None that are polite enough to be used in the DN, that is.

  • utahboni Ogden, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:28 a.m.

    Say it isn't so! A politician playing political games? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked that such a thing is going on.

  • LogicInduced Ogden, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:12 a.m.

    Hoopcoach,

    34% of that 47% you refrenced are on Social Security and Federal Pensions, including those on Military Pensions.

    They worked most of their lives depending on what was promised and paying into the system.

    Our "leaders" the last 50 years overlooked the big problem to maintain their positions...

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 7:09 a.m.

    LDS Liberal - thanks for reminding us about Senator Lee's own home foreclosure due to his fiscal irresponsibility. Like I said before, where is his leadership? At least President Obama and the democrats are attempting to look out for the "little guys" in society. Thanks to President Obama all Americans will have access to Healthcare. Without his leadership we would forever be at the mercy our broken healthcare system whose practitioners would take everything you own because you have the audacity to become seriously ill!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 31, 2012 4:25 a.m.

    And to think this is coming from a guy who lost his own honme to foreclousure for not paying HIS own finacial obligations!

    Whatever Sen. Mike Lee -- Your word and "financial" credibilty means ZERO to most of us.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 31, 2012 12:06 a.m.

    RRB,

    He doesn't know how, and really doesn't care.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 11:58 p.m.

    Obama needs to stop blaming people and fix it.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 30, 2012 10:38 p.m.

    The philosophy of the Tea Party is really very simple. They only want fiscal responsibility in our government and deference to our U.S. Constitution.

    And for this the Left and the corrupt Media label that extreme?

    That, Meckofahess, is truly what is pathetic.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 9:59 p.m.

    Funny that Senator Lee criticizes the President for lack of leadership? From what I can see as a native Utahn is that Senator Lee mostly follows the lead of the extremist Tea Party instead of showing some leadership himself. But then like most repblicans, he has to look out for the good of the 1% and not the American middle class!. But then again, he has nothing to worry about, as wearing the Republican banner in Utah will protect him from any threat of being defeated come next election even if his party has no solutions to the nations problems. How pathetic.

  • Hoopcoach Provo, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 9:59 p.m.

    Our lame duck president is getting exactly what he wants. A socialistic United States! He's done LESS than congress! With the exception of one thing... His golf game! Mitt Romney was right when he said 47% wouldn't vote for him. Why wold they? And have everything that Obama is giving to them for doing absolutely nothing taken away? How dare they have to work for a living like the rest of us!

  • LogicInduced Ogden, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 9:32 p.m.

    Raising taxes on the wealthy will not cost jobs. Taxing the middle class more will. If the middle class has less money, then they will buy fewer products.

    Where are all the jobs the wealthy have created over the last 4 years when their taxes paid was half of mine, % wise. If the fear is the wealthy will not be able to expand, then why haven't they expanded by now during the lowest interest rates in memory? However, $250,000 a year is not wealthy. I think it should be at least double that figure.

    Spending does need to be cut. But the only spending that will dent the deficit is defense, social security, and medicare. What percentage of spending do you want to cut from each?

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 9:13 p.m.

    Republicans and Tea party never acknowledge their roles in the debt ceiling and the national debt. The last republican president sent the economy into the dumps. Why should anyone trust them again?

  • emtbrady Farmington, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 9:06 p.m.

    Worst Senator ever. What an embarrassment.

  • Gr8Dane Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    Senator Lee is absolutely correct. You'd have to be absolutely daft to not see Obama's cynical class warfare politics, and his pandering to the "low information" voters out there who put him back in office for another four dismal years to come.

    Every day brings a new outrage. Federal agencies out of control with regulatory zeal, and asserting extraConstitutional power they were not delegated by Congress.

    Obama, the narcissist-in-chief, can't tear himself away from the Golf Course, Jay-Z's fundraisers, David Letterman show, the View, or the latest manufactured rally to actually exercise Leadership and bring people together.

    He's done more to divide this country, and to run up our debt than anyone in US history. Yet, he's "hip," "cool." And Republicans are to blame?

    Pray that our nation survives four more years of Obama and the Democrats. What has this nation become?

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    Well count on Barry to hit the links tomorrow.......he could care less if Americans are over taxed, after all he knows the GOVT spends the democrats money better than they can. Senator Lee, doesn't waste your breath on this guy.....he thinks he is a dictator, not POTUS.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 8:16 p.m.

    Obama has NEVER made a specific proposal for ANY spending cuts, nor made any attempt to "compromise" with the Republicans. That is the epitome of political games by a President.

    Indeed, Harry Reid's senate has not even voted on a budget (as required by law every year) for 4 years. Nor voted on any of the House passed proposals to avoid the :cliff."

    Obama has repeatedly blamed the Republicans, but not attempted to even get his fellow Democrats to put forth a specific counter proposal. Some "negotiating skills" huh?

    Worse, Obama has deceitfully portrayed this as a problem of the "evil rich not paying their fair share" when in fact the problem is the out of control spending which he refuses to acknowledge, let along cut.

    Sen. Lee is right, and bravo to him for saying what needs to be said. Obama is purposely destroying every aspect of our country, and must be stopped. Bravo to ANY who are willing to stand up to his bully tactics and demonization tactics. The media will excoriate you, but history will vindicate your courageous attempts to save our country.

  • rightascension Provo, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 8:12 p.m.

    Fiscal cliff is not the right metaphor here. It is rush hour and Charlie Sheen, Lindsay Lohan, and Nick Stahl are fighting for the wheel of the car while doing crazy 8s down the freeway. Now there is the metaphor.

    Our senator's math, incidentally, does not add up.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Dec. 30, 2012 8:03 p.m.

    Typical Obama move, always pointing fingers and shifting blame. It's always someone else's fault. Democrats don't understand that the top 1% print the paychecks for all of those middle class folks. You raise taxes on them and there is less money for the workers. It's pretty simple, but democrats, go ahead and keep hating those who have made a successful life and continue to discourage success. Welcome to Socialism.

  • freedom in 2017 paradise, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 7:47 p.m.

    obama continues to show how truly clueless he is and fortunately for him many americans (his groupies) included continue to mindlessly buy his baloney. handouts won him the election and takers continue to back this guy. amazing.....

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 7:27 p.m.

    @deseret pete -Raising taxes increases revenue which will reduce the annual deficit. Will the increased tax revenue reduce the deficit by any substantial amount? Sadly, No. The first year in which Obama had any influence on the budget was 2010. The deficit at the end of 2009 stood at 11.9 trillion dollars, the deficit today is roughly 16 trillion dollars. Under the Obama Presidency the country has incurred an extra four trillion dollars. What should not be forgotten is that the budget has been approved by a Republican House each and every year, so not all the blame can be placed on Obama. We should place more emphasis on investment in Education and jobs, which will help this country economically and socially. Thankfully, the US has the luxury to adjust monetary policy any way we choose. As long as the US Dollar remains the worlds reserve currency, the Fed has flexibility other nations don't have, you won't see the Greek/Ireland/Spain/Portugal/Italy economic issues for a long time.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 30, 2012 7:17 p.m.

    The problem is career politicians, on the right and left. With an approval rating in the low teens congress should be concerned about their jobs. They are not the least bit concerned, because the majority of congressional districts in the country are gerrymandered so that it it almost impossible for them to change hands (that includes republicans and democrats depending on which state). These clowns don't care, they still get paid and oh by the way even get a pay raise. This is all about power. Follow the money, are the republicans trying to protect the wealthy absolutely, that is their base. Are the democrats trying to protect retiree's and lower income Americans yes that is their base.

    When it comes to budgets and spending the President can only recommend and then sign a budget into law or veto it. Could he do a better job of trying to move this process forward probably, but we don't know what efforts he has made and what recommendations he has made. The folks that should be talking reside in the house and the senate, but again, they don't care about you and me.

  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Dec. 30, 2012 6:42 p.m.

    Raising taxes on the rich does nothing to solve our fiscal cliff folks --- We have a spending problem. Obama has incurred more debt than all the presidents combined and we have billions of unfunded responsibilities coming up and no way to met them. You could tax the rich 100 percent and that wouldn't solve our problem. We need to get america back to work, especially those on the dole who are able to work.Folks have you seen what is happening in Europe? That is us shortly if we keep up this madness.

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 6:13 p.m.

    "It's hard working Americans who are living paycheck by paycheck and those who are least able to absorb the losses," he said. "That's why were' concerned about that." - If that is the case, why is he actively supporting the interests of the ~1% at the expense of the rest of the ~99%? Holding average Americans hostage to save high earners a 3-4% tax increase...

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    The Ernst and Young study:
    was prepared last year by two economists at Ernst & Young for the Independent Community Bankers of America, the National Federation of Independent Business, the S Corporation Association and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — all opponents of the president’s agenda.

    Furthermore, one of the authors is also a former official in George W. Bush’s Treasury Department.

  • dave4197 Redding, CA
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    Sen Lee is the game player along with the tea partiers. All about games, nothing about solutions. The Republicans may realize this some day, some term, some vote, that the tea party's non solutions are seen as garbage. By most of us voters. Sen Lee, show up with real solutions, workable solutions. The rich can and ought to pay more for the wars, the infrastructure, and towards helping the poor. Shutting down PBS, cutting foreign aid, these are not solutions to spending, they are less than a drop in the proverbial bucket. Defense is the big elephant in the room, Sen Lee, defense spending pays middle class and rich class incomes to too many hangers on in the military industrial complex. Take a closer look at defense spending, Sen Lee, I can help you find hundreds of billions of unneeded spending. In one budget term. Game over, Sen Lee. You lost. Mark my words, in a few days, your game will be over with the Senate and the House passing at least the minimum - continued Bush tax rates except for over $250k families.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:36 p.m.

    The emperor has no desire to balance a budget and shows no understanding of fiscal responsibility. We are better to fall of the cliff than to continue to let the government spending spree roll on unaccounted for.

  • micawber Centerville, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:34 p.m.

    Since the Deseret News quotes the Washington Post "fact checking" story, it probably would have been better to note that the Washington Post gave the claim three Pinocchios out of four. It called the claim that raising taxes on the top rates would destroy 700,000 jobs "simply absurd." The Deseret News (and Senator Lee) might disagree with the Washington Post, but having referenced the article, more context would have improved this article.

    Senator Lee and Congressman Chaffetz are also playing politics here. What proposals do they have for solving the problem, other than criticizing the President?

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:31 p.m.

    This President never takes one ounce of responsibility for anything! He leads from behind rather than from the front. He pushes others around, blames, threatens, and accuses everyone who doesn't agree with his ideology. And, disappointingly, many people believe his rhetoric and deception and keep drinking the koolaid.

    Americans had a chance to change this last Nov. 6th. Now all of America will suffer.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 30, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    No, he is playing politics, just like the Republicans did by holding a bunch of pointless votes on repealing The Affordable Care Act, when they knew each and every time it would never pass. This is the definition of politics. This is just like McConnell proclaiming that his goal was to make sure Obama was a one term president. This is politics just like when McConnell brought a bill to the floor of the senate, only to filibuster his own bill.

    Mike, this is politics.... get used to it.

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    Mister Lee: political games?

    You dare point arrows at the President, when you are part of the biggest do-nothing obstructionist Congress in history.
    You aren't there to help our country succeed.

    All you want to do is keep taxes low for your fat-cat friends, and hurt the real taxespayers of this country: the middle class.

    I hope you get primaried by someone with good sense.

  • Ett Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    Thank you Senator! I have been saying the same thing all along, and am dismayed that our other Utah Legislators have not.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    Mike Lee is playing politics again, and to heck with the country in the process. Why am I not surprised.

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    Dec. 30, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    Sen. Lee states Pres. Obama is playing political games? Really? I presume Lee could recoginize and know how to play a political game so it must be true.