Comments about ‘Sen. Mike Lee: President Obama playing 'political games' during fiscal cliff negotiations’

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Published: Sunday, Dec. 30 2012 4:01 p.m. MST

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BYR
Woods Cross, UT

Sen. Lee states Pres. Obama is playing political games? Really? I presume Lee could recoginize and know how to play a political game so it must be true.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Mike Lee is playing politics again, and to heck with the country in the process. Why am I not surprised.

Ett
Salt Lake City, UT

Thank you Senator! I have been saying the same thing all along, and am dismayed that our other Utah Legislators have not.

Reasonable Person
Layton, UT

Mister Lee: political games?

You dare point arrows at the President, when you are part of the biggest do-nothing obstructionist Congress in history.
You aren't there to help our country succeed.

All you want to do is keep taxes low for your fat-cat friends, and hurt the real taxespayers of this country: the middle class.

I hope you get primaried by someone with good sense.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

No, he is playing politics, just like the Republicans did by holding a bunch of pointless votes on repealing The Affordable Care Act, when they knew each and every time it would never pass. This is the definition of politics. This is just like McConnell proclaiming that his goal was to make sure Obama was a one term president. This is politics just like when McConnell brought a bill to the floor of the senate, only to filibuster his own bill.

Mike, this is politics.... get used to it.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

This President never takes one ounce of responsibility for anything! He leads from behind rather than from the front. He pushes others around, blames, threatens, and accuses everyone who doesn't agree with his ideology. And, disappointingly, many people believe his rhetoric and deception and keep drinking the koolaid.

Americans had a chance to change this last Nov. 6th. Now all of America will suffer.

micawber
Centerville, UT

Since the Deseret News quotes the Washington Post "fact checking" story, it probably would have been better to note that the Washington Post gave the claim three Pinocchios out of four. It called the claim that raising taxes on the top rates would destroy 700,000 jobs "simply absurd." The Deseret News (and Senator Lee) might disagree with the Washington Post, but having referenced the article, more context would have improved this article.

Senator Lee and Congressman Chaffetz are also playing politics here. What proposals do they have for solving the problem, other than criticizing the President?

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

The emperor has no desire to balance a budget and shows no understanding of fiscal responsibility. We are better to fall of the cliff than to continue to let the government spending spree roll on unaccounted for.

dave4197
Redding, CA

Sen Lee is the game player along with the tea partiers. All about games, nothing about solutions. The Republicans may realize this some day, some term, some vote, that the tea party's non solutions are seen as garbage. By most of us voters. Sen Lee, show up with real solutions, workable solutions. The rich can and ought to pay more for the wars, the infrastructure, and towards helping the poor. Shutting down PBS, cutting foreign aid, these are not solutions to spending, they are less than a drop in the proverbial bucket. Defense is the big elephant in the room, Sen Lee, defense spending pays middle class and rich class incomes to too many hangers on in the military industrial complex. Take a closer look at defense spending, Sen Lee, I can help you find hundreds of billions of unneeded spending. In one budget term. Game over, Sen Lee. You lost. Mark my words, in a few days, your game will be over with the Senate and the House passing at least the minimum - continued Bush tax rates except for over $250k families.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The Ernst and Young study:
was prepared last year by two economists at Ernst & Young for the Independent Community Bankers of America, the National Federation of Independent Business, the S Corporation Association and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — all opponents of the president’s agenda.

Furthermore, one of the authors is also a former official in George W. Bush’s Treasury Department.

mcdugall
Layton, UT

"It's hard working Americans who are living paycheck by paycheck and those who are least able to absorb the losses," he said. "That's why were' concerned about that." - If that is the case, why is he actively supporting the interests of the ~1% at the expense of the rest of the ~99%? Holding average Americans hostage to save high earners a 3-4% tax increase...

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

Raising taxes on the rich does nothing to solve our fiscal cliff folks --- We have a spending problem. Obama has incurred more debt than all the presidents combined and we have billions of unfunded responsibilities coming up and no way to met them. You could tax the rich 100 percent and that wouldn't solve our problem. We need to get america back to work, especially those on the dole who are able to work.Folks have you seen what is happening in Europe? That is us shortly if we keep up this madness.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

The problem is career politicians, on the right and left. With an approval rating in the low teens congress should be concerned about their jobs. They are not the least bit concerned, because the majority of congressional districts in the country are gerrymandered so that it it almost impossible for them to change hands (that includes republicans and democrats depending on which state). These clowns don't care, they still get paid and oh by the way even get a pay raise. This is all about power. Follow the money, are the republicans trying to protect the wealthy absolutely, that is their base. Are the democrats trying to protect retiree's and lower income Americans yes that is their base.

When it comes to budgets and spending the President can only recommend and then sign a budget into law or veto it. Could he do a better job of trying to move this process forward probably, but we don't know what efforts he has made and what recommendations he has made. The folks that should be talking reside in the house and the senate, but again, they don't care about you and me.

mcdugall
Layton, UT

@deseret pete -Raising taxes increases revenue which will reduce the annual deficit. Will the increased tax revenue reduce the deficit by any substantial amount? Sadly, No. The first year in which Obama had any influence on the budget was 2010. The deficit at the end of 2009 stood at 11.9 trillion dollars, the deficit today is roughly 16 trillion dollars. Under the Obama Presidency the country has incurred an extra four trillion dollars. What should not be forgotten is that the budget has been approved by a Republican House each and every year, so not all the blame can be placed on Obama. We should place more emphasis on investment in Education and jobs, which will help this country economically and socially. Thankfully, the US has the luxury to adjust monetary policy any way we choose. As long as the US Dollar remains the worlds reserve currency, the Fed has flexibility other nations don't have, you won't see the Greek/Ireland/Spain/Portugal/Italy economic issues for a long time.

freedom in 2017
paradise, UT

obama continues to show how truly clueless he is and fortunately for him many americans (his groupies) included continue to mindlessly buy his baloney. handouts won him the election and takers continue to back this guy. amazing.....

SS
MiddleofNowhere, Utah

Typical Obama move, always pointing fingers and shifting blame. It's always someone else's fault. Democrats don't understand that the top 1% print the paychecks for all of those middle class folks. You raise taxes on them and there is less money for the workers. It's pretty simple, but democrats, go ahead and keep hating those who have made a successful life and continue to discourage success. Welcome to Socialism.

rightascension
Provo, UT

Fiscal cliff is not the right metaphor here. It is rush hour and Charlie Sheen, Lindsay Lohan, and Nick Stahl are fighting for the wheel of the car while doing crazy 8s down the freeway. Now there is the metaphor.

Our senator's math, incidentally, does not add up.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Obama has NEVER made a specific proposal for ANY spending cuts, nor made any attempt to "compromise" with the Republicans. That is the epitome of political games by a President.

Indeed, Harry Reid's senate has not even voted on a budget (as required by law every year) for 4 years. Nor voted on any of the House passed proposals to avoid the :cliff."

Obama has repeatedly blamed the Republicans, but not attempted to even get his fellow Democrats to put forth a specific counter proposal. Some "negotiating skills" huh?

Worse, Obama has deceitfully portrayed this as a problem of the "evil rich not paying their fair share" when in fact the problem is the out of control spending which he refuses to acknowledge, let along cut.

Sen. Lee is right, and bravo to him for saying what needs to be said. Obama is purposely destroying every aspect of our country, and must be stopped. Bravo to ANY who are willing to stand up to his bully tactics and demonization tactics. The media will excoriate you, but history will vindicate your courageous attempts to save our country.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Well count on Barry to hit the links tomorrow.......he could care less if Americans are over taxed, after all he knows the GOVT spends the democrats money better than they can. Senator Lee, doesn't waste your breath on this guy.....he thinks he is a dictator, not POTUS.

Gr8Dane
Tremonton, UT

Senator Lee is absolutely correct. You'd have to be absolutely daft to not see Obama's cynical class warfare politics, and his pandering to the "low information" voters out there who put him back in office for another four dismal years to come.

Every day brings a new outrage. Federal agencies out of control with regulatory zeal, and asserting extraConstitutional power they were not delegated by Congress.

Obama, the narcissist-in-chief, can't tear himself away from the Golf Course, Jay-Z's fundraisers, David Letterman show, the View, or the latest manufactured rally to actually exercise Leadership and bring people together.

He's done more to divide this country, and to run up our debt than anyone in US history. Yet, he's "hip," "cool." And Republicans are to blame?

Pray that our nation survives four more years of Obama and the Democrats. What has this nation become?

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