No, no and no RedShirt. No Democratic votes, no California Baptists
"giving" Obama what Romney wouldn't work for, no Republican votes
mattering whatsoever in our state. No knowledge on your part that conservative
Independents can do write-ins, vote for other candidates, and actually vote
their conscience?The lesser of the two was still an imperfect man.
He may have made a great president, but he refused to honestly answer the
religion questions. I'm a former Mormon of 40 years, sixth generation
pioneer stock. I know exactly what Mitt refused to clarify, so stop assuming
that no Baptists are former LDS. There's tons of us. It's not about
a church; it's about the Truth of Who Jesus Christ is.In
Mitt's case, it was about political expediency and he never thought his
lack of full disclosure would be so easily apparent. The evangelical tent is
big, but you have to be a fully confessing sinner. Maybe there's a next
time for Mitt to give the 100% answer. For now, that ship has sailed.
"a 'pretend Christian' for a president."Bellsandbells, why would you feel the need to attack another person for his
religious beliefs? What gives you the power to know what is in another's
heart? Do you believe yourself God? It is especially hypocritical in a post
where you are trying to defend your own religion. You know, I have
my opinions on religion and its veracity, but I would never claim to know
To "Filo Doughboy" so you are saying that your Baptist church would
rather vote for Obama than for Romney. You realzie that by refusing to go to
vote because of 1 canidate, your church allowed the other canidate to be
elected. If you asked your fellow church members if they would vote for Obama
would they say yes?
JanSan,"....Romney did bring much notice to the LDS church so
SOMETHING good came out of this election at least."____________________________That observation is worth a grimace or
two. A transitory Mormon moment is as good as it gets if being an effective
billboard for Mormonism is all Mitt Romney's Presidential run has to show
for its efforts. The U.S. Presidency isn't about Mormonism. It's about
Filo.. thank you! Now we know SOME of the people to blame when our country goes
down the toilet!Our leaders have told us that we will NEVER be a majority
people - but that we will always be a peculiar people. If we go to main stream
then this will not hold true, so not being a majority is not a big deal to most
of us.Romney did bring much notice to the LDS church so SOMETHING good
came out of this election at least.
Many people thought the "Mormon Moment" was over when Joseph Smith was
killed, and later when the church members piled into their waqons under Brigham
Young and headed off into oblivion.
Filo..you fell for the trap Obama's team built for you. Romney did talk in
detail about his beliefs, you faied to listen and the media failed to share it.
"Mormon speak Kolob" makes no sense and the spiritual Lord, God, Savior,
Creator has the ultimate spiritual place in the Mormon faith. You heard what
you wanted to hear. No matter what he said, it would have fallen on deaf ears
for you just as the message from Jesus fell on many deaf ears in the Holy Lands
so long ago. Yes, I give ample credit to the Obama team for a good strategy for
re-election and credit to you and you millions no-votes for giving us a
'pretend Christian' for a president.
There was no "moment." Noting that Mormons are gaining in American
politics, is like noting that large numbers of Jews served as government
officials in the 1920's Wiemar Republic. It doesn't hold that Jews
were fully accepted then and it doesn't mean that Mormons are accepted as
"mainstream" today. Complex demographics and regions with conservative
LDS voting blocks have allowed some Mormons to succeed in attaining public
office, but it does NOT mean that Mormons are accepted by the electorate as a
whole. There are a great many on both sides of the aisle who have no respect for
what they think Mormons represent.
I see the "snarky" writing continues in the comments section.
The 'Mormon Moment' cliché is passé. The new paradigm shift
needed is for LDS to enter the real world. The one shared by born-again,
Spirit-in-dwelt believers, who trust in a Book that has
archeological/historical/manuscript evidence, and place their eternity's
trust in the blood shed on The Cross, not in Garden droplets.You
have always been invited, prayed for and witnessed to. It's a choice.Evangelicals stayed home in droves in my Baptist church family because
they refused to be led by a man who refused to answer honest questions about his
core beliefs, and then use every evangelical term his handlers gave him, because
Mormon-speak is from Kolob, not Earth.
I softened, I caved, voted for the cardboard weather vane. Saw his good side,
but knew that he had totally ignored the new demographic when he chose Ryan over
Rubio. Thanx for losing the election for conservatives, Mitt, by ignoring the
youth, minorities, and the huge Latino bloc. BHO out-smarted you with social
media and modern trends.What the American evangelicals were hoping,
was that a Mormon would once again change direction for expediency at worst, or
for the best of the country at best. Bye-bye to polygamy, black priesthood
ban, and Masonic handshakes when the public outcry is tpo deafening. But you
couldn't reach out and relate to the 20-30 group to get a conservative in
the White House? The evies who stayed home realized that Mr.
Cardboard couldn't be authentic at his core. It is what it is: The Garden
of Eden in MO, a God who really isn't "Spirit", and a preference
over a 19th century novel with no manuscripts over the Word of God from 6
centuries of evidence.
From everything I've heard a lot of Evangelicals stayed home on voting day.
On Huckabee the guest said that the evangelicals weren't energized to go
vote. Kidding right? How could you not be energized to vote in this last
election. Maybe some of the evangelicals have softened, but a lot have not.
The play was better.
Political nutrality? Perhaps we ought to ask the States of California and
Hawaii about that. And sometimes nutrality is no virtue.