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Farm bill may affect milk prices, with a possible increase up to $8 a gallon

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  • Rita52 ANN ARBOR, MI
    Dec. 29, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    I have been paying $7.50/gal for milk for the past 3 years. I get sick drinking the cooked, homogenized, pus-filled milk in the grocery stores, so I bought a share in a cow that's part of an organic food co-op here in Michigan. The animals are pastured in all except the coldest weather, are grass-fed and cared for by a family who loves them. I pay what it costs to produce the milk, not the government-supported artificially low price for adulterated, unhealthy milk and milk-products from the local mega-mart. My milk, cheese, yogurt and kefir are pure, wholesome and safe, and I have paid a fair price for them. We don't have a lot of money, as we live on my husband's disability income, but we are healthier, as is our local economy.

  • Chip2 Provo, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    John Brown,

    I'm not sure where you get your information, and how you classify a "subsidy," but half of the items you mention directly consume "subsidized" products.

    The other two items are indirectly related to subsidies, too.

    All farm land is connected insomuch that each individual farm can raise a certain set of crops, which affects other crops' availability and price.

    You don't have to convince me of the evils of subsidies, as I mostly agree with your position, but I don't think many here really understand the other position, nor do many here understand how all agriculture is connected.

    As a farmer who has visited farms of all sizes in other states and countries (Central America and Japan) I probably have a bit above average idea of how interconnected farms are not only here (in our country, across state lines), but internationally.

    Personally, I'm "OK" with the thought of no agricultural subsidies. As a farmer, I'll be better off.

    But bear in mind that removing agriculture subsidies is no panacea for our society, there will be other problems to deal with that most anti-subsidy posters on here do not comprehend.

  • OhE Marietta, OH
    Dec. 28, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    Fear Mongering at the very least is what this is article is. They need to tell the truth. Gov. Subsidies shore up the price of milk to keep Dairy Farmers from going bankrupt from low milk prices. The Gov. keep the price of milk over $3 a gallon by buying up milk for schools and they used to distribute free cheese to the poor and low income. If the Gov quits paying the subsidies milk prices will drop like a rock and a lot of Dairy Farmers will be hauling their cows to slaughter to reduce production. It happened before and not all that many years ago. They will flood the market with hamburger because dairy cows aren't that good for meat production.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    Hey Utah, if this happens, you can blame your Republican Congressmen and Senators.

    When they fail to vote to keep tax cuts for those making less than 250k per year, you can "thank" these men who represent your interests again!

    But, on the other hand, when milk costs $6 to $8 per gallon, and taxes go up by $2,000 per year, Utahans will see that their interests are NOT best represented by the right wing politicians we as a state have elected. Then the next time around, they'll be out of office.

    Myself, I can't wait for that.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 28, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    While we are getting rid of subsidies how about we get rid of the oil subsidy to! I say if we need capitalism for farmers we need it for oil barons too!

  • CWV1965 Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 28, 2012 2:42 a.m.

    What does the top 1% have to do with the economy? Its the other 99% who believe socialism and poverty will fix the economy. Say the top 1% gives all their weatlh of $800 billion to government in the first year, its not enough to cover the $1.6 Trillion dollars expense account of the president.

    Who will be the next layer of wealth to make pay more taxes after all the rich have had theirs taken from them, etc, etc, etc? Anyone working with a job is a volunteer sharing poverty and no money to tax and repaying it all for their "volunteer training loan" Obama loaned to you (AmeriCorps).

    The price of a gallon of milk or gas or can of vegetables begins with tax and subsidy cuts feeding inflation and profiteering. Sure, for a billion dollars a year I'd do everything to diversify and thin out a commodity (water down milk) to extend its size and make it look like we have more than there is. Milk fat (3.2%) is proving to be a necessary component for good health as whole milk is recommended for babies and children now.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:55 p.m.

    This is why, so many of our rural people are constantly driving new four wheel drive vehicles.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 5:27 p.m.

    SS-
    "I don't think anyone realizes everything that milk is in. If milk prices go up, EVERYTHING goes up. Whether you drink milk or not, something you eat or drink will go up, guaranteed!!"

    Quit eating processed food and you don't have to worry about it. Fruits and veggies do not contain any milk.

  • John Brown 1000 Laketown, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    Chip2,

    2/3rds of all farm production--including fruit, vegetables, beef, and poultry--are not subsidized and do just fine. When was America last brought to its knees by fluctuations in the price of chicken? Or broccoli? Or apples?

    Who cares if a bag of Cheetoes goes up or down? Or Sugar Corn Pops? America produces far more food than it can eat. We export tons. We are in no danger of not having enough food. If corn is high, we can switch to eating more potatoes or rice or whatever. If sugar goes up, well, I for one can stand to eat a little less sugar. Pass the honey instead, please.

    The Heritage Foundation published an article "How Farm Subsidies Harm Taxpayers, Consumers, and Farmers, Too" that provides some interesting reading. Ultimately, subsidies seems to have become nothing more than a handout for votes program.

  • Chip2 Provo, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 3:43 p.m.

    Those that oppose subsidies (like I typically do) need to think of what will happen to the agriculture industry when it runs subsidy-free.

    If you think the swings in fuel prices are bad, just wait until there is a real food shortage. The drought in the midwest is nowhere near a food shortage, corn prices nearly doubled, but there is still plenty available and enough to go around. What I'm talking about is a REAL food shortage.

    Maybe some of you real smart folks could look up how much food typically cost in past history.

    Remember how high lettuce went a few years ago after frost damage? And lettuce isn't even a typical staple, it has many substitutes, and is more of a luxury consumption item.

    As a farmer, I oppose agriculture subsidies. They limit my ability to really "clean up" in a shortage. As a citizen, I believe they offer stability to society.

  • John Brown 1000 Laketown, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 3:13 p.m.

    $20 billion each year goes to Federal farm subsidies, corn getting the lion's share. Wikipedia has a nice breakdown.

    Let's put that in perspective. 20 billion is the annual state budget for all of the following states combined:

    * Utah
    * Nevada
    * Idaho
    * Arizona

    You could subsidize the whole budget of all those states--no more state income, sales, and property taxes for those folks--with the money we give to farmers to guarantee high prices for farmers of the subsidized products.

  • LDS Tree-Hugger Farmington, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    Not to mention the non bio-degradable garbage piling in landfills from Trillions of plastic milk jugs!

    [I boggles my mind that Utah FINALLY just woke up out of the 1970's and started recycling less than a couple of years ago...]

    BTW -
    I thought Conservatives were the Campions of cutting Government entitlements, and Free Markets?

    What - you mean to tell me that all along they were really nohting more than just a bunch of hypocrites?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    The subsidies that have kept milk so cheap so long, along with other food items, are one of the reasons people don't think enough before having eleven children. Food costs need to be much more transparent from production to fork. Stop subsidizing consumers, and especially producers. Let the money flow through the system and the farmers that can make a living running their production business based on that cash flow will survive. Get rid of the entitlements in this system.

  • justamacguy Manti, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    Let it happen... Then we are back to what the Democrats started in the first place. If Bush was so bad why do Democrats want to keep his tax cuts?

  • Mukkake Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    Less dairy, less fat people.

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    I say this is great! Maybe folks like this will learn that kids don't actually need over a gallon of milk every week, and/or that you should make sure you can afford 11 kids before you have them. (I'm all for bringing kids into good homes, but there's a line between that and being irresponsible.) Maybe the dairy industry (along with the other farm industries, oil, etc) will learn how to actually compete with one another to the consumer's advantage. The "fiscal cliff" is nothing more than the nasty stepchild of our nanny-state policies we've been clamouring for over the past 80 years or so coming back to haunt us. The longer we try to "compromise" and borrow more time, the worse it's going to be. So I say bring it on! Lets get it over with. Maybe it will force people to relearn how to manage finances, become self sufficient, and cease our dependence upon a bloated federal government for our daily living.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    The hypocrasy and double-standard of Conservatives is astounding to say the least!

    They rant and rave daily 24/7 about Government spending, the deficiet, entitlements, ect.

    Then when it comes cut Federal Spending - no Sacred Cows, and look at everything including things like:
    Social Security,
    Medicare,
    Oil Subsides,
    Milk Subsidizes,
    Grain Subsidies,
    and the Foreign Wars they start with no intention to ever pay for....
    ....

    They go freakin' ballistic!

    Now wonder the GOP can't get anything done in Congress,
    There is absolutely no consistancy with ANYTHING they say or do.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 1:07 p.m.

    @Flashback
    "When no one buys it, the price will go back down to a reasonable level due to economics 101 kicking in."

    No it won't, because I'm sure what you consider a "reasonable level" is still significantly below the level farmers would need to make just to break even and if farms aren't seeing any net income, they aren't going to stay in business very long so they won't do that.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    It's time for America to pay the price for their frivolous living and outstanding national debt. Lets just take the old elephant/donkey out back and shoot it.

  • Farmintown Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    If milk were just for drinking then a lot of the proposals here would fly, but dairy goes into a much broader usage, think butter, baking, cheese, an a host of other products that use dairy. I am impressed that JSB has taken the problem into his own hands with a solution using goats. Too bad that there is such a limited situation (space, zoning, etc.) that more couldn't participate. I love my neighbors who raise chickens and bees along with their gardens, but I doubt there are many who could be truly self sufficient if the need arose. Time to start realizing what needs to be done.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    We don't need a another stinking farm bill. Let the milk producers experience the law of supply and demand. I'm sick of my tax dollars supporting them and I do not have to drink milk. When no one buys it, the price will go back down to a reasonable level due to economics 101 kicking in. While we are at it, take away the subsidies for turning crops into Ethanol to put into gas. Our gas would get cheaper, the cost of feed would be cheaper and we would all benefit. So would the environment. Let's let the farmers grow food not gasoline additive.

  • just-commenting Logan, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    I suspect that the lady who goes though 14 gallons of milk voted GOP to return Hatch and a GOP representative to congress, so that they could support the 1% in their lifestyle and say no to anything that would benefit the middle class. Now she complains that she is facing the results of her vote. Why should any of us be spared the consequences of our decisions, including those made in the voting booth?

  • CF Mom Sandy, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:10 p.m.

    Most non-political comments so far have focused on basic, white liquid Milk that pours into your cup or cereal bowl. (EarlofHemsly-powdered milk=dried milk, Duh.) Rising milk prices will raise the price of powdered milk.

    What about the price of milk products used daily? When saying "I don't drink Milk"&"find alternatives like soy/rice milks" are you also saying you never eat/use milk derivative foods - No butter, ice cream, sour cream, yogurt, cheese (on pizza, sandwiches, salads, pasta, Mexican, nachos, pastries...)? If milk prices increase, prices for all products using milk will increase. (Plus-Increased production costs of second generation products=higher rate of increase)

    Have you ever to go to a restaurant that uses no dairy in food prep and service?

    Even products you don't think about. Read some ingredient lists. Anything containing "Whey" will rise in price. "Whey" is a milk by-product of cheese making.

    No, I am not a Dairy farmer or from a farming tradition. The closest I have ever been to a cow is to have driven by the beef finishing lot that use to be located on the west side of I-15 in the Sandy -Draper area

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:06 p.m.

    Patriot -- absolute, unadulterated nonsense.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    @patriot
    "we crossed that line on Nov 6 2012. We are now in a place we have NEVER been before since our constitution was signed in 1776."

    I don't mean to alarm you but... Obama has already been president for 4 years. We are quite literally in the same place we've been in since 2011 when Republicans took the house and Obama has less capability of getting stuff done than he had in 2009-2010.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:48 a.m.

    I don't think anyone realizes everything that milk is in. If milk prices go up, EVERYTHING goes up. Whether you drink milk or not, something you eat or drink will go up, guaranteed!!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    re:one old man

    You forgot the biggest danger we face -> Barack Hussin Obama! Ever watch the movie "Clear and Present Danger"? When you cross the line into socialism there is no going back my friend and we crossed that line on Nov 6 2012. We are now in a place we have NEVER been before since our constitution was signed in 1776. Want to see what awaits you and your kids in 5 years? Take a look at Greece today. Closer to home take a look at California where workers are paid with IOU's.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:56 a.m.

    Michelle Obama says milk is bad for you anyway so just use water on your Lucky Charms...no problem. If Milk goes to $8 a gallon then what about the rest of your food bill? No worries mates - plenty of high paying jobs on the horizon courtesy of the Obama jobs plan for 2013 - - the one that raises taxes through the roof for small business. As you pour water on your Frosted Flakes and wait for your unemployment check to arrive be content in knowing that the rich are now paying their fair share - makes it all worth while!! Remember YOU voted for this and it's for only 4 more years.

    "Stupid is as stupid does" (Forest Gump)

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:52 a.m.

    I spent 2 years in southEast Asia.
    Never drank milk once.

    Aside from Mother's milk,
    2 Billion people in the world live dairy free their entire lives.

    Perhpas it's about time we stop having government subsiding things like Gas and Milk --
    let the true price come to light,
    and let the Free Market decide.

    It would be a Conservative dream come true...

  • BacanaUte Holladay, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    I say it's time to stop all of the agricultural subsidies that exist in this country. Would it be hard on the farmers of America, of course, but that is part of business, they would find ways to produce their product and turn a profit. Sugar subsidies are the true culprit but milk as well.Let the American people decide if they want to pay the true price of milk and stop using taxpayer money to subsidize that cost.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    Well, Ernest T., you already know the answer to your question: It is because the Federal Government is involved that things are "backwards."

    And we are NOT running out of oil. What have have run "out of" is the capacity to refine the oil we have and are able to produce domestically. The oil companies know this and love it when one of their refineries goes "off-line" for any reason as they use that for an excuase to jack up prices.

    Maybe zoning laws should allow everyone to have a milk cow----is that the solution?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    One more thought, Shimlau. If we take a close look at why the 1917 Revolution turned into what it became, do we need to look at the role of greed there, too?

    Thanks to our Constitution, America has been a place where a pendulum swings from one side to the other -- but by doing so it helps us find wisdom. Any time anything interferes with the freedom of that pendulum of public opinion and national policy to swing as it must, we are in danger.

    There is another major difference between Americans now and the Russians of 1917. Most of us are quite well educated. At least when compared with the mostly illiterate citizens of Russia at that time.

    I believe -- or hope -- that between the boundaries and guidance set by our Constitution and the common wisdom of millions of better educated Americans, we will survive.

    But if we allow extremists -- or overdoses of entertainment that seem to prevent so many of us from thinking -- to take over our country, we will be great danger. Greed is only one of many threats we face. Powerful special interests are another.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    I don't know whether to be impressed that most of you all are consistent on a position that really is the most socialist thing the gov't does... or disgusted by the amount of hatred for milk.

  • John20000 Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    Good news. So far, the government can't force us to buy milk...only health insurance.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    Would you pay $8 for a gallon of kool-aid? Once you are past the age of about 20, you get the same benefit from either one--which is to say, not much. Adults, raised on milk, continue to drink it because they simply like the way it tastes. So, if milk does go to $8/gallon, drink water. Or fruit juice.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    What? The Farm Bill expired?
    Time to bring home all the missionaries who don't have papers.
    I know, there's not supposed to be a link between immigration enforcement and the farm bill. But there is, thanks to church lobbyists and Senator Bennett.
    Actually, it's time to stop the rider ammendments to bills that have nothing to do with the subject of the bill itself.
    Maybe then CONgress would take their work seriously.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    No, Shimlau, there is a big difference between "free enterprise" that is conducted ethically and that is conducted for selfish, greedy reasons.

    When "free enterprise" seeks to gain profit without regard for others, it becomes a matter of greed.

    Remember the time when businesses and business owners looked to the long-term good not only of themselves, but for their workers as well?

    We need look only at recent history in America to see some very stark differences that are now changing the face of our very nation. Anyone who is not very concerned with the current obsession with short term profit without regard for the common good of all of us, is, in my opinion, unworthy of the title American.

    What really built this nation was the hard work and sweat of common people.

    Given a long and brutal history of pogroms and brutal suppression of the common folks, the revolution of 1917 that took down the Czar was well deserved. The problem was that even the revolutionaries lost sight of their goal. I'm afraid that Americans may be losing sight of the goals we set back in 1776.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    Very simple. Get the government out of the market. Milk prices will react to supply and demand. Guess what? People can use alternatives such as soy and rice milk.

  • Erika Salem, Utah
    Dec. 27, 2012 9:02 a.m.

    Perhaps we need to realize what things truly cost and adjust our lifestyles accordingly. Farmers, like the rest of the country, need to make a living. Are subsidies really the answer? Maybe we should pay the real price of milk and stop consuming so much refined sugar. Maybe the family $ should go towards the most nutritionally sound and basic foods first, like they did for most of history.

    Or perhaps this is the way the world ends . . . not with a bang, but a whimper.

  • mcdugall Layton, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    Remove the subsidies and let the market function as intended. Milk should not be a staple of the American diet, it is not a healthy source of calcium nor any other vitamin/mineral, seek alternatives.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    re:Mountanman

    Spot on!! The entitlement crowd could care less since they live off the rest of us anyway. Doesn't matter what Milk prices go to or what taxes are raised to - this crowd doesn't pay taxes and they get their "Obama money" at the welfare office so who cares. If Milk goes up they just get more food stamps...no problem..and we foot the bill. Mitt spoke of the 40% crowd that he couldn't reach because they have no reason to care. As for the real working class in America who DO pay taxes and who DO have to earn the money they use to buy milk then they are in a world of hurt. The Obama answer - just CREATE this phony fiscal cliff which is intended to jack up taxes for all wage earners middle class included OR avoid the fiscal cliff by having taxes raised on the job creators and small business owners. Either way Barack takes another BIG step toward wealth redistribution and socialism and America watches their freedom slip away. One day in the not too distant future you will read stories to your grandkids about home ownership - good ole days.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    one old man: Milk is just one more symptom of an economic system that is spinning toward the bottom thanks to the domination of our lawmakers by too many financially powerful special interests that place greed before the common good. In 1917 a group of people used this same mantra to abolish a monarchy and install their own government in Russia. The Bolsheviks went on to nationalize all of the business, including health care, and agriculture. In the 1960's, Kruschev said "...we will bury you...". Just prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were feeding their people from grain that they bought from the United States. Defectors, and others from the East Block, were astounded at what could be bought in the grocery stores of the US. The only productive farms in the USSR were very small private plots. I may be misreading you, and maybe you don't mean 'private enterprise' but, to make a profit, doesn't make one 'greedy'. Also, this 'greed' has given the world the best standard of living it has ever known.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    Why should I be subsidizing milk drinkers anyway? It's really quite simple. If you want to drink milk bad enough pay $8 a gallon. If you can't afford it then don't drink milk. There, problem solved. Contrary to government brainwashing you don't have to drink milk to be healthy.

  • EarlOfHemsley Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:30 a.m.

    If Milk is ever $8/gallon at the store, I'm switching out to an alternative. Soy milk costs that much, and neither does powdered milk. The only time my family drinks milk is for breakfast cereal and cookies.

  • Itsjstmeagain Merritt Island, Fl
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:25 a.m.

    I'm pretty much a middle of the road person, but the farm programs do need to end. The price will spike until the market finds itself.
    I don't drink milk.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    Midwest Mom, in case you haven't already noticed, much of our food supply already comes from overseas. If we keep doing that to ourselves, we'll soon be in the same pickle with food that we are now in with oil.

    Worf -- stop and actually think for a moment before making a comment like that.

    MM -- remember that you could be just one job loss, one health crisis, or one accident away from food stamps yourself unless you happen to be one of one percent.

    Milk is just one more symptom of an economic system that is spinning toward the bottom thanks to the domination of our lawmakers by too many financially powerful special interests that place greed before the common good.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:05 a.m.

    As long as you are getting food stamps, no problem!

  • FatherOfFour WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 7:04 a.m.

    I see a recurring theme in this article:

    "The farm bill expired three months ago. Unless CONGRESS passes legislation renewing federal support for agriculture programs, milk prices could spike to between $6 and $8 per gallon, according to some estimates."

    "CONGRESS is at an impasse over how much to cut food stamps, how much the government should subsidize crops and debate over how dairy prices should be stabilized."

    "Unless CONGRESS resolves the stalemate over the farm bill by the end of the year, the federal government would have to follow a 1949 law that would require the U.S. Department of Agriculture to buy milk at roughly twice the current market price to maintain a stable market."

    So when Boehner cannot rally his caucus and cannot get the sufficient votes needed, we know who to blame. CONGRESS

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:58 a.m.

    Yep, it already costs $8 a gallon. Did you get your socialist milk today? I'm so disappointed in rural america that cries against the evils of socialism yet is the largest benefactors.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:55 a.m.

    There is a tea party that demands you drink their beverage.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 27, 2012 6:01 a.m.

    Got you really scared huh? The real truth is that the layers of middlemen in commodoties and consumer products and exporting are the really scared brokers and profiteering in the US.

    Its time to end all food subsidized government spending. If the real facts were made public the fiscal cliff and removing subsldies can lower the cost of milk and other food products.

    For every commodity subsidized it creates many layers of profiteers and racketeering falsifying the truth and data of this countries products that need to be abolished to get a real valuation and costs reductions. Inflation on each level of billionaire broker adds excess cost and economic inflation.

    The brokers are adding fear and scare lies to imply these accusations. Farmers and consumers are not profiteering, its the many layers of brokers driving inflation and cost up. Lack of money just removes a layer of profiteering and cheaper consumer prices.

    The downfall of deflating an economy with lower prices is that it drops sales tax revenue to local government who are the next level of crime to limit and put under control.

  • John Brown 1000 Laketown, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 11:38 p.m.

    Milk already costs $8/gallon.

    Yes, already.

    Subsidies hide the true cost. If the cost would go to $8/gallon that means we're already paying $8/gallon now. It's just that the farmers have a nifty way of getting the extra $5.50--they put it into the Federal budget and force the rest of us to pay it.

    Subsidies force the transfer of money from one group of people to another via taxation and redistribution.

    No more force.

    Let Americans choose. If we value milk so highly, we'll pay for $8/gallon in the supermarket. If not, we shouldn't be forced to buy it through hidden means.

    Our food supply is in no danger whatsoever. Furthermore, the true cost would drop because we'd start importing cheaper milk from abroad, substitute other products that would work just as well, and switch production to farmers who can produce it more cheaply. The spike would come and go. Same with subsidies for sugar and corn etc.

    Subsidies force all American people to buy things at high prices. All because these farmers think the rest of America owes them this particular job at a particular wage.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Dec. 26, 2012 11:32 p.m.

    In a great nation as ours,---why can't at least ninety percent of people feed themselves?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 11:14 p.m.

    Why would a completely renewable resource like milk cost more than twice the amount of gasoline when we're running out of oil? The prices are backwards from what they should be.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Dec. 26, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    The Congress has "milked" the population for centuries, so why not the farmers? After all, gas at almost $4 a gallon around the calendar is ok with most folks, so why not ratchet up the cost of milk? After all, in Hawaii in 2004 milk was $8 a gallon. Now will it be $25?

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Dec. 26, 2012 9:12 p.m.

    A few years ago we bought a couple of goats and have had delicious and healthy goat's milk since then. They don't take much room; they are a lot of fun; and they are a great alternative to $8/gallon milk. Maybe in addition to chickens in the back yard, we'll now see a few more backyard goats!

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Dec. 26, 2012 7:15 p.m.

    This one's a no-brainer. Having a stable food supply is probably the greatest national defense. For food staples to spike at the same time that everyone's income will be cut is a recipe for recession. See farms fail, see foreign interests swoop in to buy the breadbasket.