Comments about ‘Farm bill may affect milk prices, with a possible increase up to $8 a gallon’

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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 26 2012 6:35 p.m. MST

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Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

The hypocrasy and double-standard of Conservatives is astounding to say the least!

They rant and rave daily 24/7 about Government spending, the deficiet, entitlements, ect.

Then when it comes cut Federal Spending - no Sacred Cows, and look at everything including things like:
Social Security,
Oil Subsides,
Milk Subsidizes,
Grain Subsidies,
and the Foreign Wars they start with no intention to ever pay for....

They go freakin' ballistic!

Now wonder the GOP can't get anything done in Congress,
There is absolutely no consistancy with ANYTHING they say or do.

Logan, UT

I say this is great! Maybe folks like this will learn that kids don't actually need over a gallon of milk every week, and/or that you should make sure you can afford 11 kids before you have them. (I'm all for bringing kids into good homes, but there's a line between that and being irresponsible.) Maybe the dairy industry (along with the other farm industries, oil, etc) will learn how to actually compete with one another to the consumer's advantage. The "fiscal cliff" is nothing more than the nasty stepchild of our nanny-state policies we've been clamouring for over the past 80 years or so coming back to haunt us. The longer we try to "compromise" and borrow more time, the worse it's going to be. So I say bring it on! Lets get it over with. Maybe it will force people to relearn how to manage finances, become self sufficient, and cease our dependence upon a bloated federal government for our daily living.

Salt Lake City, UT

Less dairy, less fat people.

Manti, UT

Let it happen... Then we are back to what the Democrats started in the first place. If Bush was so bad why do Democrats want to keep his tax cuts?

American Fork, UT

The subsidies that have kept milk so cheap so long, along with other food items, are one of the reasons people don't think enough before having eleven children. Food costs need to be much more transparent from production to fork. Stop subsidizing consumers, and especially producers. Let the money flow through the system and the farmers that can make a living running their production business based on that cash flow will survive. Get rid of the entitlements in this system.

LDS Tree-Hugger
Farmington, UT

Not to mention the non bio-degradable garbage piling in landfills from Trillions of plastic milk jugs!

[I boggles my mind that Utah FINALLY just woke up out of the 1970's and started recycling less than a couple of years ago...]

I thought Conservatives were the Campions of cutting Government entitlements, and Free Markets?

What - you mean to tell me that all along they were really nohting more than just a bunch of hypocrites?

John Brown 1000
Laketown, UT

$20 billion each year goes to Federal farm subsidies, corn getting the lion's share. Wikipedia has a nice breakdown.

Let's put that in perspective. 20 billion is the annual state budget for all of the following states combined:

* Utah
* Nevada
* Idaho
* Arizona

You could subsidize the whole budget of all those states--no more state income, sales, and property taxes for those folks--with the money we give to farmers to guarantee high prices for farmers of the subsidized products.

Provo, UT

Those that oppose subsidies (like I typically do) need to think of what will happen to the agriculture industry when it runs subsidy-free.

If you think the swings in fuel prices are bad, just wait until there is a real food shortage. The drought in the midwest is nowhere near a food shortage, corn prices nearly doubled, but there is still plenty available and enough to go around. What I'm talking about is a REAL food shortage.

Maybe some of you real smart folks could look up how much food typically cost in past history.

Remember how high lettuce went a few years ago after frost damage? And lettuce isn't even a typical staple, it has many substitutes, and is more of a luxury consumption item.

As a farmer, I oppose agriculture subsidies. They limit my ability to really "clean up" in a shortage. As a citizen, I believe they offer stability to society.

John Brown 1000
Laketown, UT


2/3rds of all farm production--including fruit, vegetables, beef, and poultry--are not subsidized and do just fine. When was America last brought to its knees by fluctuations in the price of chicken? Or broccoli? Or apples?

Who cares if a bag of Cheetoes goes up or down? Or Sugar Corn Pops? America produces far more food than it can eat. We export tons. We are in no danger of not having enough food. If corn is high, we can switch to eating more potatoes or rice or whatever. If sugar goes up, well, I for one can stand to eat a little less sugar. Pass the honey instead, please.

The Heritage Foundation published an article "How Farm Subsidies Harm Taxpayers, Consumers, and Farmers, Too" that provides some interesting reading. Ultimately, subsidies seems to have become nothing more than a handout for votes program.

Belching Cow
Sandy, UT

"I don't think anyone realizes everything that milk is in. If milk prices go up, EVERYTHING goes up. Whether you drink milk or not, something you eat or drink will go up, guaranteed!!"

Quit eating processed food and you don't have to worry about it. Fruits and veggies do not contain any milk.

Mcallen, TX

This is why, so many of our rural people are constantly driving new four wheel drive vehicles.

Taylorsville, UT

What does the top 1% have to do with the economy? Its the other 99% who believe socialism and poverty will fix the economy. Say the top 1% gives all their weatlh of $800 billion to government in the first year, its not enough to cover the $1.6 Trillion dollars expense account of the president.

Who will be the next layer of wealth to make pay more taxes after all the rich have had theirs taken from them, etc, etc, etc? Anyone working with a job is a volunteer sharing poverty and no money to tax and repaying it all for their "volunteer training loan" Obama loaned to you (AmeriCorps).

The price of a gallon of milk or gas or can of vegetables begins with tax and subsidy cuts feeding inflation and profiteering. Sure, for a billion dollars a year I'd do everything to diversify and thin out a commodity (water down milk) to extend its size and make it look like we have more than there is. Milk fat (3.2%) is proving to be a necessary component for good health as whole milk is recommended for babies and children now.

Salt Lake City, Utah

While we are getting rid of subsidies how about we get rid of the oil subsidy to! I say if we need capitalism for farmers we need it for oil barons too!

Ogden, UT

Hey Utah, if this happens, you can blame your Republican Congressmen and Senators.

When they fail to vote to keep tax cuts for those making less than 250k per year, you can "thank" these men who represent your interests again!

But, on the other hand, when milk costs $6 to $8 per gallon, and taxes go up by $2,000 per year, Utahans will see that their interests are NOT best represented by the right wing politicians we as a state have elected. Then the next time around, they'll be out of office.

Myself, I can't wait for that.

Marietta, OH

Fear Mongering at the very least is what this is article is. They need to tell the truth. Gov. Subsidies shore up the price of milk to keep Dairy Farmers from going bankrupt from low milk prices. The Gov. keep the price of milk over $3 a gallon by buying up milk for schools and they used to distribute free cheese to the poor and low income. If the Gov quits paying the subsidies milk prices will drop like a rock and a lot of Dairy Farmers will be hauling their cows to slaughter to reduce production. It happened before and not all that many years ago. They will flood the market with hamburger because dairy cows aren't that good for meat production.

Provo, UT

John Brown,

I'm not sure where you get your information, and how you classify a "subsidy," but half of the items you mention directly consume "subsidized" products.

The other two items are indirectly related to subsidies, too.

All farm land is connected insomuch that each individual farm can raise a certain set of crops, which affects other crops' availability and price.

You don't have to convince me of the evils of subsidies, as I mostly agree with your position, but I don't think many here really understand the other position, nor do many here understand how all agriculture is connected.

As a farmer who has visited farms of all sizes in other states and countries (Central America and Japan) I probably have a bit above average idea of how interconnected farms are not only here (in our country, across state lines), but internationally.

Personally, I'm "OK" with the thought of no agricultural subsidies. As a farmer, I'll be better off.

But bear in mind that removing agriculture subsidies is no panacea for our society, there will be other problems to deal with that most anti-subsidy posters on here do not comprehend.


I have been paying $7.50/gal for milk for the past 3 years. I get sick drinking the cooked, homogenized, pus-filled milk in the grocery stores, so I bought a share in a cow that's part of an organic food co-op here in Michigan. The animals are pastured in all except the coldest weather, are grass-fed and cared for by a family who loves them. I pay what it costs to produce the milk, not the government-supported artificially low price for adulterated, unhealthy milk and milk-products from the local mega-mart. My milk, cheese, yogurt and kefir are pure, wholesome and safe, and I have paid a fair price for them. We don't have a lot of money, as we live on my husband's disability income, but we are healthier, as is our local economy.

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