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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 26 2012 6:35 p.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

No, Shimlau, there is a big difference between "free enterprise" that is conducted ethically and that is conducted for selfish, greedy reasons.

When "free enterprise" seeks to gain profit without regard for others, it becomes a matter of greed.

Remember the time when businesses and business owners looked to the long-term good not only of themselves, but for their workers as well?

We need look only at recent history in America to see some very stark differences that are now changing the face of our very nation. Anyone who is not very concerned with the current obsession with short term profit without regard for the common good of all of us, is, in my opinion, unworthy of the title American.

What really built this nation was the hard work and sweat of common people.

Given a long and brutal history of pogroms and brutal suppression of the common folks, the revolution of 1917 that took down the Czar was well deserved. The problem was that even the revolutionaries lost sight of their goal. I'm afraid that Americans may be losing sight of the goals we set back in 1776.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

What? The Farm Bill expired?
Time to bring home all the missionaries who don't have papers.
I know, there's not supposed to be a link between immigration enforcement and the farm bill. But there is, thanks to church lobbyists and Senator Bennett.
Actually, it's time to stop the rider ammendments to bills that have nothing to do with the subject of the bill itself.
Maybe then CONgress would take their work seriously.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Would you pay $8 for a gallon of kool-aid? Once you are past the age of about 20, you get the same benefit from either one--which is to say, not much. Adults, raised on milk, continue to drink it because they simply like the way it tastes. So, if milk does go to $8/gallon, drink water. Or fruit juice.

John20000
Cedar Hills, UT

Good news. So far, the government can't force us to buy milk...only health insurance.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't know whether to be impressed that most of you all are consistent on a position that really is the most socialist thing the gov't does... or disgusted by the amount of hatred for milk.

one old man
Ogden, UT

One more thought, Shimlau. If we take a close look at why the 1917 Revolution turned into what it became, do we need to look at the role of greed there, too?

Thanks to our Constitution, America has been a place where a pendulum swings from one side to the other -- but by doing so it helps us find wisdom. Any time anything interferes with the freedom of that pendulum of public opinion and national policy to swing as it must, we are in danger.

There is another major difference between Americans now and the Russians of 1917. Most of us are quite well educated. At least when compared with the mostly illiterate citizens of Russia at that time.

I believe -- or hope -- that between the boundaries and guidance set by our Constitution and the common wisdom of millions of better educated Americans, we will survive.

But if we allow extremists -- or overdoses of entertainment that seem to prevent so many of us from thinking -- to take over our country, we will be great danger. Greed is only one of many threats we face. Powerful special interests are another.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Well, Ernest T., you already know the answer to your question: It is because the Federal Government is involved that things are "backwards."

And we are NOT running out of oil. What have have run "out of" is the capacity to refine the oil we have and are able to produce domestically. The oil companies know this and love it when one of their refineries goes "off-line" for any reason as they use that for an excuase to jack up prices.

Maybe zoning laws should allow everyone to have a milk cow----is that the solution?

BacanaUte
Holladay, UT

I say it's time to stop all of the agricultural subsidies that exist in this country. Would it be hard on the farmers of America, of course, but that is part of business, they would find ways to produce their product and turn a profit. Sugar subsidies are the true culprit but milk as well.Let the American people decide if they want to pay the true price of milk and stop using taxpayer money to subsidize that cost.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

I spent 2 years in southEast Asia.
Never drank milk once.

Aside from Mother's milk,
2 Billion people in the world live dairy free their entire lives.

Perhpas it's about time we stop having government subsiding things like Gas and Milk --
let the true price come to light,
and let the Free Market decide.

It would be a Conservative dream come true...

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Michelle Obama says milk is bad for you anyway so just use water on your Lucky Charms...no problem. If Milk goes to $8 a gallon then what about the rest of your food bill? No worries mates - plenty of high paying jobs on the horizon courtesy of the Obama jobs plan for 2013 - - the one that raises taxes through the roof for small business. As you pour water on your Frosted Flakes and wait for your unemployment check to arrive be content in knowing that the rich are now paying their fair share - makes it all worth while!! Remember YOU voted for this and it's for only 4 more years.

"Stupid is as stupid does" (Forest Gump)

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:one old man

You forgot the biggest danger we face -> Barack Hussin Obama! Ever watch the movie "Clear and Present Danger"? When you cross the line into socialism there is no going back my friend and we crossed that line on Nov 6 2012. We are now in a place we have NEVER been before since our constitution was signed in 1776. Want to see what awaits you and your kids in 5 years? Take a look at Greece today. Closer to home take a look at California where workers are paid with IOU's.

SS
MiddleofNowhere, Utah

I don't think anyone realizes everything that milk is in. If milk prices go up, EVERYTHING goes up. Whether you drink milk or not, something you eat or drink will go up, guaranteed!!

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@patriot
"we crossed that line on Nov 6 2012. We are now in a place we have NEVER been before since our constitution was signed in 1776."

I don't mean to alarm you but... Obama has already been president for 4 years. We are quite literally in the same place we've been in since 2011 when Republicans took the house and Obama has less capability of getting stuff done than he had in 2009-2010.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Patriot -- absolute, unadulterated nonsense.

CF Mom
Sandy, UT

Most non-political comments so far have focused on basic, white liquid Milk that pours into your cup or cereal bowl. (EarlofHemsly-powdered milk=dried milk, Duh.) Rising milk prices will raise the price of powdered milk.

What about the price of milk products used daily? When saying "I don't drink Milk"&"find alternatives like soy/rice milks" are you also saying you never eat/use milk derivative foods - No butter, ice cream, sour cream, yogurt, cheese (on pizza, sandwiches, salads, pasta, Mexican, nachos, pastries...)? If milk prices increase, prices for all products using milk will increase. (Plus-Increased production costs of second generation products=higher rate of increase)

Have you ever to go to a restaurant that uses no dairy in food prep and service?

Even products you don't think about. Read some ingredient lists. Anything containing "Whey" will rise in price. "Whey" is a milk by-product of cheese making.

No, I am not a Dairy farmer or from a farming tradition. The closest I have ever been to a cow is to have driven by the beef finishing lot that use to be located on the west side of I-15 in the Sandy -Draper area

just-commenting
Logan, UT

I suspect that the lady who goes though 14 gallons of milk voted GOP to return Hatch and a GOP representative to congress, so that they could support the 1% in their lifestyle and say no to anything that would benefit the middle class. Now she complains that she is facing the results of her vote. Why should any of us be spared the consequences of our decisions, including those made in the voting booth?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

We don't need a another stinking farm bill. Let the milk producers experience the law of supply and demand. I'm sick of my tax dollars supporting them and I do not have to drink milk. When no one buys it, the price will go back down to a reasonable level due to economics 101 kicking in. While we are at it, take away the subsidies for turning crops into Ethanol to put into gas. Our gas would get cheaper, the cost of feed would be cheaper and we would all benefit. So would the environment. Let's let the farmers grow food not gasoline additive.

Farmintown
Salt Lake City, Utah

If milk were just for drinking then a lot of the proposals here would fly, but dairy goes into a much broader usage, think butter, baking, cheese, an a host of other products that use dairy. I am impressed that JSB has taken the problem into his own hands with a solution using goats. Too bad that there is such a limited situation (space, zoning, etc.) that more couldn't participate. I love my neighbors who raise chickens and bees along with their gardens, but I doubt there are many who could be truly self sufficient if the need arose. Time to start realizing what needs to be done.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

It's time for America to pay the price for their frivolous living and outstanding national debt. Lets just take the old elephant/donkey out back and shoot it.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Flashback
"When no one buys it, the price will go back down to a reasonable level due to economics 101 kicking in."

No it won't, because I'm sure what you consider a "reasonable level" is still significantly below the level farmers would need to make just to break even and if farms aren't seeing any net income, they aren't going to stay in business very long so they won't do that.

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