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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 26 2012 6:00 p.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Red, once upon a long time ago, I voted for a lot of Republicans. In fact, this election is the first time I ever voted a straight ticket.

Why?

Republicans are no longer sane and I really prefer at least a little sanity in my government.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Fred44 said, "The constitution does allow for the Speaker to be a non elected representative."

Has it ever happened? The answer is no, so the point is meaningless. If you are not a member of the House, then you will never be selected as the House Speaker.

By the way Fred, it was only a couple dozen chuckleheads – not 40 or 50 that caused Boehner to bail on Plan B. And Jason Chaffetz was not one of them – he sided with the Speaker.

For me, if the choice is the Republicans running the House with John Boehner as Speaker, vice, the Democrats running the House with Princess Pelosi as Speaker, then it is not even a contest. The Republicans (with their chuckleheads) are a much better choice to keep Obama in campaign mode instead of dictator mode.

Florwood
American Fork, UT

The backup QB is always the fan's choice...

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Jon Huntsman or Nancy Pelosi - what's the difference? Both super liberal and both hate conservatism. I have never understood why Huntsman pretends to be a Republican in the first place. Huntsman is a liberal and is all too eager to sign with Obama on anything and everything. Jason Chavetz would tell Huntsman to buzz off as would Michelle Bachman. All the sudden the GOP establishment want to become Democrat's. I say let them go and let the 90% of the GOP defect to the Libertarian party or Independence. We could care less what liberals think or purple Republicans for that matter. I would rather watch America go down in flames - as it is currently headed like a train wreck in slow motion - and at least stand with the US constitution on principle. One day in the not too distant future when unemployment is 30% and China owns most of what is left in this country including our past freedoms I suspect some historian is going to write some "what went wrong with America" book and of course at that point it will be too little too late. All former great civilizations cave from within.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

VST,

Understand it hasn't happened and probably never will. The point was it could.

As to the chuckleheads I don't care if there is 50 or 5 they have taken control of the House. As to checking the President, the House controls the purse strings how about doing your job and getting a budget passed that has a chance of passing the Senate and not being vetoed?

Republicans can't seem to understand they lost the Presidency and seats in the house and the senate. Blaming the democrats isn't working for them. When Americans realize that we are going over the cliff then fixing it the first of the year for Grover's pledge they are going be even less happy with the republicans in the house

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

No thanks. Furthermore, Boehner is not the problem in Washington. How is it that he is blamed for not compromising or able to work with the democrats? Any reasonable human can see that Obama and his lap dog from Nevada never compromise. Watch and learn, people!

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

Huntsman has traded on his father's good name long enough, and he can only do that in Utah. Sorry libs, it won't work in the rest of the country, even though the msm loved him.

The only Supreme Court Justice from Utah, Justice Sutherland, said " ... the saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty is that it was lost because its possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time."
Is it too late?

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

Ladies and gentlemen, take it from someone who was forced to live through it: J. Jr. is a Schwaganeggaer (?) Republican. I think he would roll over for whatever the Dems are pushing, which, in my humble opinion is to let the country go over the imaginary fiscal cliff just to see if they can finish off the Republicans.

I think the only people in Washington who are willing to stick to their principles are the Tea Party folks. They are toeing the line their constituents have drawn in the sand with no intention of crossing it at all. Good for them.

Osgrath
Provo, UT

Ideology presents a huge danger to this country. Both sides push a "my way or the highway" agenda and philosophy. What we really need in leadership is competence - someone that get the job done. The system of checks and balances will make sure no one political philosophy destroys our country unless everybody, executive, legislative and judicial, along with the electorate, gives its approval. Huntsman has shown he can get things done. Boehner and Obama have not shown that. Let's get something in place that works!

Meanwhile, a viewing of the film, "Lincoln," reminds us of how dirty politics can be. Toward the end, Thaddeus Stevens (a conservative Republican, by the way) states: "The greatest measure of the 19th century was passed by corruption, aided and abetted by the purest man in America." I really hope that nobody on either side of the present issue would want to repeal the 13th Amendment.

All this hand-wringing about the demise of the American nation is ideological nonsense. America is culturally and economically what the rest of the world wants to be. China, for all their problems, at least recognizes that without the United States, they become a backwater, 3rd-world country.

Kelliebelle66
West Jordan, UT

I voted for and helped campaign for Jon Huntsman Jr for governor. I was disappointed when he left office to become ambassador to China, but I felt that it was an great opportunity for him and I understood why he chose that path. Then after a short time as ambassador he decides to resign to pursue other opportunities such as running for President of the United States of America. I couldn't understand why a man who spent little time as a governor and resigned and spent little time as an ambassador and resigned felt he was qualified to be President of the United States. He has the mentality of someone who is used to getting what he wants or doing what he wants to do when he wants to do it. That's not how the rest of us operate. We work our way up to things through years of planning and slogging. I guess if you have money life is different. You decide you want a car, you go buy it. You decide to go to a prestigious school, you go. Be president, no problemo. Until he decides otherwise.

Gr8Dane
Tremonton, UT

This is a ridiculous story. Norm Ornstein is a well-known liberal Democrat activist who has taken up residence in a left-leaning "think tank." He views it as his job to stir the pot and criticize Republicans and jab them at every chance. Huntsman would be a disaster as Speaker. The majority in the House should be able to vote for and select their own leaders from within. Not some outside groups foisting the flavor "du jour" onto them.

Huntsman was a divisive governor. He seems to revel in it for his own publicity (dare I say, Narcissist?).

This is a non-story and has a zero percent chance of happening. THe majority can select their own speaker, and Huntsman is definitely not it.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Fred44,

Democrats can't seem to understand THEY lost control of the House in 2010 and failed to win it back in 2012. Democrats in the Senate don't seem to understand that when the House Republicans pass a budget, they, as a minimum, have an obligation to bring it up for a vote, and if they don't like it, then counter-propose AND pass a budget for consideration by the House in a joint conference, modified, then voted upon by both the House and the Senate. Senate Democrats have failed to propose, let alone pass ANY budget for consideration for the last four years. The House has passed a budget EVERY year over that same period regardless of who controlled the House. But Reid will not even allow ANY House budget to be brought to the floor of the Senate for consideration. They won't even bring ANY of Obama's budget proposals to their floor for consideration.

Here is a hint Fred. It is NOT the responsibility of the Republican House to be the "lap dog" for Obama and the Democrats in the Senate simply because the won last month. Compromise is a two-way street.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

I'm afraid the only good solution will take a little while longer. People now see how divisive and dysfunctional it is to let the extremes of each party set the agenda. It's time for the majority of us voters to regain control of our parties and bring them closer to the center. Opinion polls have already shown that neither party's current platforms are popular with the majority. Yet we continue to delay expressing our opinions until the party caucuses are over, and by then it's too late.

We have two choices--more and earlier participation or further decline.

P.S. Notice how few moderate opinions there are among these responses? Where are all my good neighbors?

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I thought Huntsman to be a good governor. I would rate him behind Scott Matheson and Calvin Rampton.

Newspaper Reader
Highland, UT

VST - 7:45 p.m.

Thanks for saying exactly what needed to be said. Some people will never understand how things are supposed to actually work in government.

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

Although I have mixed feelings about Governor Huntsman, he would be an awesome Secretary of State with either party.

L
Central, Utah

I would support Jon Huntsman Jr. if I had a vote to cast on it

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

VST,

I agree that the Senate should have given the House budget an up or down vote. Don't misunderstand, I do not hold democrats blameless. I would hope that you would also criticize Mr. Boehner for not allowing his plan B to come up for an up or down vote. Both parties are playing politics and are willing to further damage an already weak economy to make their respective political points.

Mr. Boehner and the President were very close to an agreement. Why not continue to negotiate, bring something back that each side likes a little and dislikes a little and put it to a vote?

By Mr. Boehner stopping negotiations because he couldn't get all the republican votes in the house to pass the legislation he allowed the vocal minority to bring the process to halt. You say that the republicans in the house shouldn't be the Presidents lapdog, again I agree with you. But I would also say that they shouldn't be Grover Norquist's lapdog either and by signing his pledge that is what they have become.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

My, J Jr will be a busy man.
So far he's been tapped by the local press to become:
Secretary of State
Speaker of the House
President of the 2026 Olympics
Replacement for Batman

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Fred44 said," Don't misunderstand; I do not hold democrats blameless."

Really! Then why did you go on a rant in your previous post saying, "Republicans can't seem to understand they lost the Presidency and seats in the house and the senate…" then further stated that the House Republicans need to "…[do] your job and [get] a budget passed that has a chance of passing the Senate and not being vetoed…"?

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