Comments about ‘Critics say NRA solution to school shootings expensive, unproductive’

Leave it to the clowns at the NRA for a horrible idea. And who pays for the first accidental shooting that will surely come?

It may be expensive but not unproductive. I think people would just rather cgi door to door confiscating the property of law abiding citizens, but they need to ask themselves about the "cost" of that move. Even the most ardent gun grabber has got to have an inkling of the problems THAT will cause. I know I won't view the governmental decision to commandeer my property too kindly. Is there a problem? Sure. But just because people don't like guns they are willing to punish everyone. It won't work, never has in the past, and could, potentially, lead to civil unrest the likes of which we haven't seen since the rioting in the 60s.

Any argument against having an armed guard in the schools is shallow. THE CEO is right. Did you know that the IRS has an armed guard in their office to serve the public since a guy shot people in an office in Texas I think. There are guards in them now across the U. S. The other government offices like Social Security has am armed guard too. Why not in the schools too?

Control the gunman, not the guns. So simple.

It would take a lot more law enforcement officers to actually enforce an "Assault Weapons Ban" than ti have a resource officer at each school!

@Clinton
"How many children today alone have gotten a "head shot" merit in some video game? "

I don't know, but what I do know is that Japan has about a dozen gun related murders a year. We have 10,000. Last I checked the Japanese play a lot of video games too. Oh, and gun violence in the US, as bad as it is, has actually been getting better the past 25 years, the same timespan that video games have gotten more popular (not suggeting a correlation, just noting that things havent' gotten worse since those games have taken off in popularity).

Cats, do you really know how the NRA works and what they stand for. Better join and find out.
They really do speak for those of us who enjoy our second amendmentr rights. They advocate safety, knowledge, obedience to the law, and a strong justicel system. Just what we need. Who else does this, certainly not the Washington establishment.

Be realistic, Gun Owners, of which there are many, need the NRA to keep balance in a country torn apart by both the far left and far right, when it comes to reasonable solutions regarding our Second Amendment rights. They provide a great service to law abiding gun owners and congress listens to them when it comes to legislation and voting on the issues.

The NRA's solution is the best solution. It protects the children and doesn't infringe on the rights of gun owners or establish another government agency that infringes on the rights of the mentally ill.

Some people seem to think they have a right to live without seeing guns and I think I missed that right in the Constitution.

When the constitution was written the citizens were given the right to be armed just like the military. Same rifles as the military. The type and styles have changed but that is the right we were all given. So that every citizen could defend themselves and the country. To say that they could not have imagined the types we just does not hold water as they a huge amount of money from their meager resources to make sure they were armed with the best they could get.

I wonder how many people that are advocating more gun free places would be willing to post on their home "This is a gun free home."

Some people live in an absolute fantasy world. First off, not every federal facility is protected by an armed guard. That is just nonsense. (I used to go into many federal facilities on a weekly basis. I know.)

Second the idea that these killers would be deterred by guns in schools, or other places, is pure speculation. These killers put on body armor. They are expecting to get shot at.

To try to put the burden of protecting our school children on teachers is pathetic. Is that really where we are?

In police shootings, nation wide, the ratio of bullets that hit the target is 2 out of 10. For every 10 bullets fired by a cop in a police shooting 2 hit the target. And those are highly trained individuals. What do you think a bunch of teachers are going to do?

Against a highly motivated individual, coming in firing, wearing body armor, with an M-16, and 30 round clips? Er, I mean AR-15. Same thing. Just one has full auto capability, one does not.

But here’s the thing, in the NRA fantasy world, the world they dream of, a guy could walk right into the middle of a school, with an M-16, er, AR-15, strapped over his shoulder, 30 round clips and 100 round drums, hanging from his belt, encased in full body armor, packing hand guns, and he would not be breaking one single law, until he fired the first bullet.

That is the insanity of the NRA, and the gun lobby.

The NRA believes that no public place, including public schools, should be designated “gun free”. They push open carry laws, like they did just recently in Florida. They believe in the right to own assault weapons, er “assault like” weapons, like the AR-15, and to carry them publicly, like was done at a number of political events just awhile ago. They believe that body armor should be legal for the public to purchase and own, like it already is.

This is the madness of the gun culture.

A tragedy similar to the horrible attack in Connecticut will not be prevented by eliminating firearms. There are several contributing elements that need to be addressed. The most important is identifying and treating people who are mentally impaired or ill. If the mother of the attacker in Connecticut had been able to find an effective source of help for her son, this horror may never have happened. Another aspect to consider is the large number of highly violent video games that are available and the desensitizing effect these games, particularly "shooter games", have on a person. The knee-jerk reaction of the Progressive-Socialist-Liberals is not an intelligent solution. Violent people will always find a way to inflict harm. Armed citizens are an effective deterrent, just as armed police are a deterrent, but accepting personal responsibility for our safety does not satisfy the Left, they want to control our liberties, and that is not a solution that the majority of thinking, rational Americans will accept.

It isn't guns; it's unbalanced kids who got that way through their dysfunctional homes. I'm pretty sure that if his parents had stayed married, the incident wouldn't have happened. Until our homes and families get stronger, we will continue to have these tragedies.

What is really frightening is sitting in a theater which is located in a "no gun zone" and NOT having a gun to defend oneself or others in the theater when a looney stands up and begins shooting everyone.

Isn't it interesting how we see/hear of news stories of people killing lots of people where no one in the crowd had a gun on them, and the news stories of where there are people with weapons who shoot the killers is rarely reported on, or shoved way back in the paper/news report??? There are LOTS of examples.

But then, showing that an armed citizenry REDUCES crime and the number of victims doesn't fit into the government's socialist pogrom, does it?

Armed guards at schools? How crazy! Oh, wait, it works on our airlines. No hijacking since 2001. I hate to try something in the school that is working in the sky. Duh.

Those who think they can keep kids safe through legislation need to get their head out of the sand. Bad guys and crazies will always find a way to get a weapon. I agree we need to help individuals with mental illness or disorders, but that is not going to stop all the bad guys. When we send thousands of dollars from one bank to another, we send it in armored trucks with armed guards. Why do we not offer our children the same protection? What do we value more? I am a fan of offering to train 3-4 teachers per school in gun use (many probably already are trained) and arming them. There are schools in Texas already doing that. That would cost a lot less than hiring additional officers. Yes, there would need to be personality tests, a look at family makeup... As for the argument about kids feeling unsafe because their teacher is armed...that is a load of bull. There is a reason it is called a "concealed" weapon! Utah schools are the main reasons that my family chooses to live in "the mission field". Utah needs to wake up and invest in the future. Their kids!

Armed guards, limited access, security checks, no weapons, metal detectors, enclosed outdoor space - sounds like the state penn - and this is the environment the NRA thinks we need to send our kids to school in.....

The Founding Fathers felt it was wise that American Citizens have the right to own weapons as a deterrent from a tyrannical government. That means that they expected us to be able to use them if necessary to maintain our liberty. In fact, they realized that this right to "bear arms" is so important; it became number 2 on that list of rights, just after the "free speech and assembly thing." However, it was also important to them that we are able to "bear arms" as a deterrent and protection from others that would threaten our life and liberty. Now we've made amazing strides in civility over the last 200 years, to the point where the idea a carrying (bearing) a weapon (arms) seems abhorrent to most of us. However, we have recently strayed from civility, and eroded the value of life through liberal policies that, although seemingly compassionate and altruistic, have corrupted our society and made a mockery of all that we used to hold sacred. So now society spawns derelicts and nut jobs, and it’s time again to protect ourselves. A community dedicated to the ideal of “self-protection” is an amazing deterrent.

Instead of offering an alternative or some commonsense solution, all that the gun-control advocates can come up with is to put down, name call and label the NRA as the "cause" behind these tragedies. The liberal objective has always been the same; to render all of society, defenseless and vulnerable, in order that their socialist agenda can move ahead unabated.

A primary purpose for the 2nd Amendment was to protect the citizens from an out of control and tyrannical government. When you look at the downward spiral this nation is on, and what's left of our Constitution, now IS NOT the time to take away those protections. We are no longer a government by and for the people. We have lost our moral compass. As we observe the socialist path we're on, is it any wonder that the elitists want to take away these rights? They fear us. And that's as it should be.

We know your true purpose. So, by trying to sell us on the illogical idea that passing laws against private ownership of guns, will magically make all this go away, is an absolute insult!

So Mark, what's your solution? Are you willing to relinquish your protective rights all together? Why do you think these cowards go into the schools in the first place? Do you see them going into a police station or armed federal building? Of course not. But, rather than using commonsense, simply answer the question. How would you protect the children and the faculty?

Fix the mental health system immediately - so that a child or adult with known serious issues can receive treatment, whether or not they want it, whether or not they've committed a crime yet.

As for guns in schools - this NRA idea is so dumb that over 1/3 of American schools has already implemented it. Um, yeah, really dumb, huh?

Fact is there is no one size fits all solution, but we need to work all angles. Allow teachers and other school personnel to concealed carry. NOT MANDATE, mind you, but allow. Every mass shooter has kept killing, until somebody with a gun showed up, at which point they are either killed or they suicide. The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by law enforcement: 14. The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by civilians: 2.5. The reason is simple. The armed civilians are there when it started.