RE: Justmythoughts,Perhaps you are seeing everything as a problem rather
than a challenge. One of the stenghts and happiness in life is conquering,
challenging and building a better life and civilization and society. Conscious
life is everything. If the world ends and you are dead then you have nothing.
Cheer up, make friends, help your neigbor; be happy. The end of our individual
times will come soon enought, make the most of what you have left.
sup yall! it's the end of the world, and it has not ended! i am gonna say
that within the next 200 billion years, it will for sure end!
well Woke up the world is not burning to the ground! and the only thing I regret
is I did not cash in on making money off the Preppers!
Joe MoeFalse conclusion? It is in black and white in your own
scriptures."The LDS understanding of the millennium involves not
only zero violence, but zero compulsion.""...with the sword
and by bloodshed" and nonbelievers will be "cast out"? Sounds like
compulsion and violence to me.That it is a myth (or a false
prophecy) is not the problem. It is that those who believe it manifest an
arrogance and take actions that strive for self-fulfilling prophecy that is
concerning. History gives us ample evidence of the harm, damage, and violence
resulting from delusions of grandeur and fascist ideology.
I wish the world would end tomorrow. No Obama care, fiscal cliff, gun control,
etc. etc. It can't come fast enough for me.
@ A Scientist (8:32 a.m.) If you knew the LDS Doctrine as well as you portray,
then you would know that your conclusion is false. The LDS understanding of the
millennium involves not only zero violence, but zero compulsion. The
"domination" you fret about is not a violent overthrow of nations, but a
gathering of the willing, after calamity and destruction. There's no
reason to criticize it, because if (a) it's a myth, then no worries, or (b)
it comes true, it will be utopia.
The early Christians thought the Second Coming was coming in their lifetimes. In
“The Name of the Rose” medieval monks anticipated the Second Coming
very soon. In Whittier’s poem “Abraham Davenport”
about a colonial legislator who in response to people’s fears that the end
had come because of an ominous storm and that they should adjourn their
legislative session, said:"This well may beThe Day of
Judgment which the world awaits;But be it so or not, I only knowMy
present duty, and my Lord's commandTo occupy till He come. So at the
postWhere He hast set me in His providence,I choose, for one, to
meet Him face to face,No faithless servant frightened from my task,But ready when the Lord of the harvest calls;And therefore, with all
reverence, I would say,Let God do His work, we will see to ours.Bring in the candles." And they brought them in.Whatever else
is happening, whatever “signs” we are seeing, our duty is to
“bring in the candles” and keep striving to bless the lives of our
The wise will know when the signs of the times are happening. Just like we can
tell when spring is upon by watching the leaves of an olive tree.It
is best to be prepared spiritually.Maybe a little self reflection
will do us all good. Are we really treating each other the way we should?Let's love life and enjoy every day!
It's almost stunning how many educated people believe in the myths of our
bronze-age ancestors. Both creation and end times myths.
I almost hope the world would end with all this anti-gun rhetoric and attack on
Just trying to get a grasp of your personality, and I think I know what it is!
procuradorfiscal:[I'd mention the old Aesop story about the
grasshopper and the ants, but liberal educators don't teach wisdom like
that anymore, so you probably have never heard of it.]I'm sure
I have, thanks to PBS, but I do know I've heard of "Chicken
Little".Half full; half empty. You can find a fable/myth/parable
to match either point of view.I'm just gonna keep working to
build the world I want live in, not the one I fear of leaving in. Then again,
I've always been suspicious that the "sky is falling" crowd are
doing the same, and want to live in some post-disaster scenario, because they
dislike this one for whatever reason, feel powerless, and want a world that
matches their own ideals and where they can feel empowered in such a
scenario.Like I said, the "ants" are planning for a
scenarios that they believe they can handle, not the ones they
can't/won't handle, like necessary cannibalism.I really
don't care for either scenario, and would rather plan for scenarios that
include the furthering of civilization, technology, and standard of living.
Re: "So you are going to ridicule 6 million Americans, and then chastize
others who do the same?"Sure. I'll ridicule any of that
gullible breed [I seriously doubt the number is 6 million -- but then again,
there are a lot who believe demonstrably false liberal fairy tales] who,
supported by only a fatuous interpretation of the flimsiest, most tenuous
evidence, have foolishly fixed tomorrow as their date with doom.But,
of course, that doesn't mean there is no evidence of rough times ahead.History proves that inter-catastrophic periods always end.Always.Deniers of that fact are living in a dangerous la-la
land.But, what I have the hardest time with is someone that insists
on ridiculing those of us who feel most secure hoping and planning for the best,
but preparing for the worst.Who are we hurting? No one.Who are we willing to help? You.
Pocuradorfiscal says: So, something like 6 million Americans actually believe
the world, as we know it, is ending tomorrow? "What a gullible
breed!"Then says: But even worse are those that ridicule anyone
who likes to be prepared for rough times that will certainly come.So
you are going to ridicule 6 million Americans, and then chastize others who do
the same? Nice!
Re: "I'd rather spend my time enjoying the good times and planning for
more."I'd mention the old Aesop story about the grasshopper
and the ants, but liberal educators don't teach wisdom like that anymore,
so you probably have never heard of it.So, I'll just say, good
luck with your grasshopper attitude. We all hope it works out for 'ya [but
we also know it won't].When hard times hit, we'll all
[including you] give thanks for the millions of ants out there busily,
anonymously, thanklessly storing up wherewithal to deal with the ensuing want.
procuradorfiscal:[But even worse are those that ridicule anyone who likes
to be prepared for rough times that will certainly come.]Because it
is ridiculous. Where do you draw the line? Some people "prepare for the
worst" by keeping a flashlight handy. Others build bomb shelters and waste
their children's time teaching them how to survive in the woods with only a
knife.I'm sure you think your approach is practical, whatever
it is, but even if you have a full "72 hour kit", it ends up being
useless around hour 73+ (unless you knew in advance that the "hard
times" were gonna last longer and rationed accordingly, which is rarely the
case).If you really wanna talk about preparation, are you ready to
make the hard decisions like so many others have? When all the food is gone for
everybody, and there's nothing left to steal? When all the animals,
domesticated and wild, have been eaten, and the only meat left is obtained
under... suspicious circumstances?Preppers live in a fantasy world,
thinking they're gonna be prepared for everything that could happen.I'd rather spend my time enjoying the good times and planning for
Here is some perspective.Doctrine and Covenants 87:6"And
thus, with the sword and by bloodshed the inhabitants of the earth shall mourn;
and with famine, and plague, and earthquake, and the thunder of heaven, and the
fierce and vivid lightning also, shall the inhabitants of the earth be made to
feel the wrath, and indignation, and chastening hand of an Almighty God, until
the consumption decreed hath made a full end of all nations;"The
LDS Bible Dictionary states: "The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints is the kingdom of God on the earth, but is at the present
limited to an ecclesiastical kingdom. During the millennial era, the kingdom of
God will be both political and ecclesiastical, and will have worldwide
jurisdiction in political realms when the Lord has made a full end of all
nations (D&C 87:6)."D&C 1:14:"and the day
cometh that they who will not hear the voice of the Lord, neither the voice of
his servants, neither give heed to the words of the prophets and apostles, shall
be cut off..."World domination and expulsion of nonbelievers...
Not a very positive view of "the end".
Re: "A recent poll showed just 2 percent of Americans believe the myth . . .
."So, something like 6 million Americans actually believe the
world, as we know it, is ending tomorrow? What a gullible breed!But
even worse are those that ridicule anyone who likes to be prepared for rough
times that will certainly come.They appear convinced that,
notwithstanding the constant political, geological, meteorological, cultural,
and personal change that characterizes Earth's history, we're fools
for being concerned about hard times.Their approach? Let the
government worry about it.Yeah -- that always works so well.Like Katrina or Sandy.
These numbers are appalling. This world has been around for over 4 billion years
and a significant number of people in richest, most powerful nation on earth
believe that the world is going to end within their brief lifetime? Because an
ancient book of mythology vaguely suggests it might?
If I die tomorrow, that is my "end of days."
"The most fervent believers in end-times theology are white evangelical
Protestants, the PRRI survey indicated. "They also don't
accept the science of evolution, the geologically established age of the Earth,
the cosmologically established age of the universe, or the science confirming
the role of humans in global warming.In short - they use their
religious beliefs as a shield against reality.So much for The
This 'end of days' stuff puts religion in perspective. It's all a