VA Saint" Historically, religious communities have been stable
and healthy."I sure hope you don't teach that Skousen
pseudo-history in your classes!
An interesting graph. As a history teacher (ancient civilizations), it is
interesting to see how religion has impacted civilizations, and how many
civilizations have prospered as a result. Historically, religious communities
have been stable and healthy.
@ PatriotSecular means that you are not alined or against any
particular religion. USSR and North Korea don't fit that bill. There is no
state religion in this country and it certainly was not founded as a Christian
Nation. The United States is secular. Perhaps it is our universal freedom for
all people that make us prosperous?If all of our success is due to
Christianity than why isn't Mexico a world power?
@ John20000 3:47 p.m. Jan. 4, 2013"Seriously though, theism is
the belief in deity and atheism is the belief there is no deity. Some religions
support atheism like Buddhism and Hinduism."I'm 113%
certain Hindus are polytheists. They have a bigger pantheon than the classical
"until Obama took over and decided to turn to atheist secularism'...i I
thought he was a muslim. And just what pray tell has Obama done as President
that is so drasticly different from the last 100 years? I can only think of one
thing and he had no say in that. Small wonder that most of the
world is religious. One of the key traits of humans is the ability to see
patterns..in everything, and religion is simply a manifestation of that trait as
people try to make sense of the world and their lives. Religion is comforting.
It says here's how the world works, and here's how you fit in.
Christian, Muslim, etc. it all does the same thing. Not much different than
seeing figures in clouds..finding patterns in randomness.
For those who believe atheism is a religion, this is like saying that if you
don't have a pet, you are a member of the group of people who have Nothing
pets. If you are not sick, your disease is good health. Fasting is your favorite
meal of the day. If you don't have a job, your career is unemployment.
Silence is music to your ears, darkness is a wavelength of light from a dark
star, etc. etc....this kind of thinking is like drinking from an empty canteen
re:A ScientistBy secular societies I assume you mean the old USSR or
perhaps North Korea or maybe many of the god-less , Marxist dictator led
countries of South America. Yes sir talk to ANYONE who actaully lived under
these wonderful atheist - Marxist - socieities and ask them about how
propsperous they were. You are totally cluess guy. True religion liberates and
prospers ANY nation who follows it while the HATE religions of the middle east
do the opposite. Don't lump the two together. The US was founded as a
Christian nation and it prospered as no other ever has ... until Obama took over
and decided to turn to atheist secularism.
There is a supreme being just because someone has to be on top. For Christians,
it's Jesus. For Muslims, it's Mohammed. For Jews, it's Jehovah.
For Atheists, it's the humans.Seriously though, theism is the
belief in deity and atheism is the belief there is no deity. Some religions
support atheism like Buddhism and Hinduism.Trivia: The Romans
accused the early Christians of being atheists for not worshiping their pagan
@ ute alumni 7:27 a.m. Dec. 20, 2012Insecurity. Such as; forcing
your beliefs on someone else and whining when resistance ocurrs?
re: Red Corvette 9:25 a.m. Dec. 19Does this majority have fire in
their caves or is that forbidden voodoo?
i love the fact that non believers love to respond to an article about
believers. i sense a great deal of insecurity.
If atheism is a religion, can I declare myself a church, make tax-deductible
donations to myself, use those donations to pay for facilities and upkeep of the
facilities and not gave to pay taxes on the donations I receive? If I declare
myself the head of my atheistic church can I petition yhe government to allow me
to perform marriages the way the heads of other religions can?
So - Christianity is not a religion, it is a philosophy, and atheism is not a
philosophy, it is a religion.....Alrighty, then!Here is
a question for you: If atheism is a religion, d
There is an Universal Morality, that is believed by every major Religion, and
even those that do not believe in God. It is based on three simple words,
"Do unto others." Do an Internet search for, "Do unto others,"
and see all that share this belief.
@Badger55:You've got a semantic tautology going on. If atheism
(no belief in god) is a religion, then you are saying nonreligion and religion
are both religion-- a paradox. In other words, it's all religion. I will
offer that disbelief in god is not necessarily the same as nonreligious in
theory, although they are pretty indistinguishable in practice. Mountanman adds
that godless belief in government is also a religion (for liberals, anyway, in
his view). Mountanman at least raises the idea that religion does not have to
be theistic. You can have a nontheist/atheist religion, but nonreligion would
necessarily be nontheistic.Not enough time now to think this through
and it makes my head spin. Somebody else please sort out the vocabulary:
theist, atheist, polytheist, nontheist, religious, secular, humanist,
free-thinker-- and draw me a Venn diagram showing how they relate to each other.
I think Badger55 wants to put everything in one big circle, even if some are
Yawn. The quantification (~84%) may be slightly newsworthy, but it is common
knowledge that some very large portion of the world's population is
religious. What is truly significant (and would be worth reporting) is trends
over time. Are numbers going up or down? Are there shifts in distribution of
people among the faiths?
I am very religious. It's only that I was unable to believe in God as a
@MountanmanActually most liberals are religious, like myself for
@Mountanman;I disagree. We don't put "state before
god", we're just asking that you keep your religion to yourself and not
keep shoving it in our face day after day. It's pretty simple really.
Where are we? Where are the religious people? Or, where are those who have read
the scriptures and found what is happening was predicted years ago. And where
are those who know what the answers are? It is time to trade guns for
covenants.Couldn't we make a list of what the problems are and work
on the solutions?1. Yes, guns of distruction would be on the list.2.
What about bringing God back, and prayer back? We can live together both the
believer and the non-believer.3. What about mental illness. Can we do more
research and find answers? Hate, anger, etc.4. What about families?
Bringing the family as the central focus on security, love, turst and belonging.
Look where we have hurt the family by creating a dysfunctional family.5.
Entertainment and movies. What effect does a movie have on our lives?We
can create a longer list. Then prioritize and work on only a few at a time. Guns
or no guns won't be the only part of the problem. Or the only answer to the
problem.One generation gave up all their weapons of war. They replaced
them with a commitment to God.
@ A Scientist. I like my "short, miserable existence." Thanks.
@ Badger55Atheism is not a religion (despite what a few judges may
think). It is simply a word to describe people who don’t believe in
religious myths and stories. It has no positive content and does not denote any
set of alternative beliefs. A better word would perhaps be non-theist, since we
don’t have words for our disbelief in most things.Is being a
non-astrologer (note that we don’t have a word for this) mean that you
have a competing set of beliefs related to astrology? Of course not… you
simply don’t believe in astrology.Or think about it this way
– most people know perfectly well what it is like to be an atheist,
because even religious people are atheists with respect to every other (major)
religion except their own. Atheists are simply people who have taken it one step
The interpretation of the establishment clause by the SCOTUS is one that I think
they got wrong. The SCOTUS wisdom probably far supersedes my own, but I
can't help but wonder what they were thinking when reading the
constitution.First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting
an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...It clearly states that Congress (government) cannot make laws establishing a
religion or laws that prohibit the free exercise of religion. It says nothing
about prohibiting the exercise of religion in certain places. In fact,
prohibiting the free exercise of religion, even if it is in a public place, is
in direct violation of the constitution. They made a mess. Atheism,
as described by the 7th circuit court of appeals, is a religion. Therefore, if
you prohibit all other religions (out of schools for example) it still leaves
the exercise of atheism(a religion). So you can't get religion out of
state. Once the government starts regulating what religion can or cannot be
exercised(even if confined to public places), it does exactly what the founding
fathers did not want to happen. The government has exercised Atheism for quite
Given that the strongest, most primal drive in the nature of all life forms is
simply to exist and that humans are no different in that respect from other
forms of life, it is no surprise that humans with their ability to
anticipate the future would be susceptible to any promise of life after death.
Belief in the life-after-death theories gives a person hope for a
better life even in the most painful lives and makes getting through this life
easier. However, the intense need for that hope makes us vulnerable to the most
outrageous fictions about it. Even the one true church, if there is such, is
operated in a manner to enslave and oppress it’s believers. If a belief system can be called a religion, then all the worlds people have a
religion. It’s just that some people’s religion might not have a
God as a person.
From the comments on here from bothered liberals the rest of us needs to
understand that liberals do not like religion because for them, thou shalt have
no other God before the state (government control)!
hutterite: All I got out of the article was that the majority of the worlds
people believe in something greater than themselves eg:religion. I don't
know what you got out of it.
At one point the majority of people also believed the sun rotated around the
A Large majority of the world's population is also living in poverty,
uneducated, under the oppressive rule of religiously-supported dictators and
tyrants, and struggling through a short, miserable existence.Many
studies show a positive correlation between secular societies and peosperity.
How wise the founders of the U S were in separating religious and political
powers. Despite that wisdom religions still try to impose pressure on secular
This doesn't validate any one religion over another, nor does it entitle
any religion to power over people, whether they believe in it or not.