utahcountyuteYet the Cougars are bowling, while the Utes are playing
couch potato. Double OUCH!
This year's BYU defense is better than the 1984 edition.I was a
freshman at BYU during the 1984 season, attended every home game, and watched
most of the away games. It was a great team, but they didn't play as
challenging a schedule as the Cougars did this year.Better
statistics against stronger competition equals better defense.
Too bad this season was spoiled by lousy quarterback play and poor play calling.
Oh, what might have been. For example, if anyone else had been throwing the
ball to a wide open receiver against Norte dame. Could have changed the whole
football landscape. But we have "no regrets" To look back on.
I was two in 84, so I don't remember that season at allDo to
the porous offense, we will never know how good this defense could be.@utahcountyutesad, funny and true.
I've watched BYU football for a long time 50 plus yrs and without getting
into the stats, I'd say this is the best defense we have ever had. The sad
thing is, our offense was terrible and IMO that was mostly because of a poor QB.
Nelson has some great intangibles but he can't throw and is not a good QB.
This team could have been soooo good if Bronco and Doman would have put the
right man in at the QB position. I hope Lark get the call to QB this last
game of the year and I wouldn't be surprised if he has an outstanding game.
phoenixAnd yet the cougs still lost. OUCH!
Uteology"The defense numbers were skewed because of Weber State
(2-9), Idaho (1-11), New Mexico State (1-11), and Washington State (3-9). A
combined 7-40."You left one out, Utah (5-7)49 yds
rushing196 yds passing245 yds totalDrive Summary6
plays, 34 yds, punt2 plays, 17 yds, TD pass14 plays, 65 yds, missed
FG3 plays, 3 yds, punt 3 plays, 9 yds, punt8 plays, 29 yds,
punt3 plays, -10 yds, end half3 plays, 9 yds, punt8 plays, 23
yds, 47-yd FG1 play, 39 yds, TD pass3 plays, 8 yds, punt5
plays, 3 yds, turnover on downs4 plays, 30 yds, punt
Best defense and worst offense. Take out one variable and it could have been the
best of both worlds. Have to realize that 4 of the 5 losses BYU had this year
came to teams in the current top 25. The other loss can be attributed solely and
100% to Riley Nelson.
The defense numbers were skewed because of Weber State (2-9), Idaho (1-11), New
Mexico State (1-11), and Washington State (3-9). A combined 7-40. But then again unlike your 1984 National Championship defense they actually
did beat a top 25 team, Utah State.
Looking forward to the SDSU vs. BYU matchup; it should be a good one! Usually
BYU's offense is better than there defense; but not this year. They were
solid on the D!
Can't remeber how good our desfense was in 1984 NC season which was too far
back to remember when I was a student. One thing that I do remember of this
perfect timing of Kyle Morrell who leaped over at goal stand against Hawaii.
Bronco M. defense was a lot fun to watch since he came.
No. And Mildred, wake up! Their defence was good, but not great and not the best
that BYU has had in the past.
Stats are over rated.I don't know how any BYU fan could rate this defense
better than the 84 team.I remember Leon White playing l.b. You have no one
who's as good as that guyI would also say that Byu hasn't played too
many high scoring offenses this year.I think Thursdays game will be decided by
who can pass the ball that result in big plays
I think every year is the best ever.
Since this team didn't have an offense that can score touchdowns, who cares
if it had the best defense ever. This year's team was 7-5 instead of 11-1
because it had an offense that couldn't take of business.
Best ever and the best in all of college football this year. If we would have
had an offense, we could be in a BCS game.
I respectfully disagree with eagle and CougfaninTX... judging this year's
defense based on the overall record of the team, or the offensive production is
not fair. So I say yes, this team is better than the defenses of the mid 80s.
While those earlier teams produced several NFL players it begs the question, how
many pros would this years team produce if we had a decent offense? We have
three defensive players who should be first day draft picks (and two of them
probably will be). If our offense had been even average this season we would
have likely beat Utah, Boise State, San Jose State, and Notre Dame... placing
BYU in a BCS bowl. Had that occurred I guarantee you our draft prospects would
have been very similar to Notre Dame's prospects for the next two seasons.
Unfortunately, that wasn't the case and we may only have 2-3 players draft
this season and next. Best defense of all-time? I say absolutely.
I agree with Poppinga, Thursday will determine where we rank the defense. If
the team was 10-2, I'd be more inclined to say they are the best ever. But
it's hard to say a 7-5 team has a better defense than our 1984 undefeated
team, even if the stats are better. Realizing the offense is most suspect,
I'll temper my enthusiasm by saying the front seven are the best ever.
They play better than any BYU defense as a unit but I'm not sure they had
the talent of the 1984-86 teams. The 1984 team was especially good and maybe why
BYU got over the top to win the national title vs. losing that one game in some
seasons previous where they got in a shoot out and came up a bullet short. But
those teams in the mid 80's churned out a lot of pro players and
surprisingly a lot on the defensive end of the ball, especially at DB where
BYU's defenses have typically struggled.This is why I am a fan
of Bronco Mendenhall. His defensive schemes are top rate, his players play
hard. There is no doubt that BYU doesn't have the talent comparable to the
competition it did a generation ago but good coaching has resulted in wins.