I stongly agree with OCoug. I am really thankful for the differences between
men and women. There isn't anything better, and we wouldn't be here if
there wasn't... Women would have the best chances to succeed
would be sports that don't require forms of physical combat. I would hate
to watch a lady play football against men, and I think that I would be less
inclined to watch a football game with a lady playing a contact position (kicker
might be ok). I think that I would become too emotionally involved My dad
would kick my butt if I watched a lady being hit... I think that
women competing in some men's sport adds interest to that sport. Danica
has drawn great interest in car racing, and Lindsey would be an even bigger draw
to the men's downhill. She would be a great draw because of her
differences, not in spite of them. Men and women compete in
day-to-day life (home, work...), why can't they compete together in sports
where the physical differences between the sexs doesn't matter. Walls are
being broken everyday, skiing shouldn't be isolated from reality.
The title and sentiment of this article is completely disgusting.Telling somebody what "should" satisfy them is both arrogant and
demeaning. It implies that asking for anything more is greedy and ungrateful,
but all it really means is that they should "know their place".There are some who tell women they should be "satisfied" with
home-making, and not to seek work outside the home. There are also some who tell
women they should be "satisfied" with being spiritually/religiously
subordinate to men, and not to seek the priesthood.Progress only
occurs when people are dissatisfied. Democracy, Women's Rights, and Civil
Rights only occurred when people were dissatisfied with their position in life.
They, too, were told what they "should" be satisfied with, but they
ignored it and demanded more.The only reason Lindsey Vonn is the one
of the best is because she is not easily satisfied. Talent and skill aren't
enough, to be the best you have to demand it."Satisfaction"
and "gratitude" are just idealized names for "complacency" and
"laziness".More than anything, this article reeks of
I agree with majmajor. If she wants to compete against the men then so be it.
Basketball was a poor comparison. While WNBA players could take me
in a game of one on one, the WNBA is far less exciting than the NBA, that's
fact. Thankfully women and men are different.
I think that if a woman wants to compete against men in skiing let her. Skiing
is like golf, it is a sport against the course. Let her play by the same rules,
on the same hill, and with the same route; if she is successfull, great on her.
If she doesn't succeed, no harm done.
Oh I feel sick. I agree with Chris B and I actually wanted to like his
comment...I love basketball but it kills me to watch women play.
Sorry. No jumping ability just straight kills basketball.I do
however think womens volleyball, tennis, soccer and other sports are just as
watchable as mens and sometimes even more watchable :)
Your right Amy, come to think of it, I love watching a breakaway lay-up as much
as a breakaway dunk. And there is nothing like a quarter filled stadium to
prove that women's basketball games are "no less entertaining."
In high school I would have loved to try playing volleyball
competitively, but never had the option, because we had to have the same number
of sports available to females as males. Sometimes women just don't want
to or like playing sports, and that's okay.I don't know
enough about skiing to make a meaningful comparison between the two sexes. I
say give Vonn a chance and let's see how she does. Will I watch it? No.
While were at it lets put the US Women's Water Polo team up against the US
Men's Water Polo team. That's probably the closest comparison we
could get.Equality at the expense of others is moronic.
@Chris B."By definition, the NBA is better and more exciting
than the WNBA because the NBA is comprised of faster, stronger, and more
athletic athletes making quicker, more powerful, and more accurate plays than
the WNBA. "That's fine, I never claimed basketball was
among the sports where it was. I agree with allisongriffin that NBA-WNBA is just
about the largest gaps between watchability between the mens and womens
games."Are you suggesting that female volleyball players are
faster, stronger, or more accurate in their passes/hits than their male
counterparts? I think not. "They are capable enough that the
sport does not decline in watchability as it does for basketball. By the way,
I'm speaking of indoor volleyball, so that we don't have to argue that
people are just looking at women in bikinis in beach volleyball.Personally I think handball is better to watch on the women's side than
the men's side. Yes the men are faster and stronger, but it actually
detracts from the enjoyment of the game when they can score a bit too
@alt,I disagree completely, and I think most people would. By
definition, the NBA is better and more exciting than the WNBA because the NBA is
comprised of faster, stronger, and more athletic athletes making quicker, more
powerful, and more accurate plays than the WNBA. The WNBA is not as exciting as
the NBA because the WNBA is more similar in style(athletic ability, talent,
speed, power) to boys high school. Are you suggesting that female
volleyball players are faster, stronger, or more accurate in their passes/hits
than their male counterparts? I think not. Let's celebrate
women's sports(when not done at the expense of men's sports) all we
want. But let's not kid ourselves. The best of the best is
the most exciting, by definition. If women volleyball players were equally as
exciting(talented), they'd be playing against the men. But they're
not. Because they arent.
"Would it be the kind of circus-like curiosity that accompanies oddities or
aberrations? Or would it be real, meaningful fandom for a sport that deserves
attention and support?"Probably the first, but you can't
get the latter unless people tune in for a first time. @Chris B."It's fine women want to play sports. But let's not kid
ourselves by pretending they are equally as exciting or difficult."In some sports they are. Volleyball, fencing, and handball come to mind from
the Olympics among others.
@Alison and aljmac,Unfortunately, thanks ultimately to feminists and
those who try to push for things like Title IX, your opinion that Sorenstam and
Vonn should be able to compete with the men can't and shouldnt happen in
almost all cases.If you believe that the women should be able to
compete with the men, why can't the men compete with the women? After
all, it would be discriminating to say women can compete with the men when they
want, but that the men can't compete with the women when they want to. Sorry, can't have it both ways. Thank the feminisits.
Amy, if she wants to compete against the men, she should be able to, IMO. That
goes for any sport (off the top of my head). I'd love to see it.
I am a woman and I love basketball, but I can't make it through two minutes
of WNBA basketball. Sorry. I love watching women's soccer, snowboarding,
skiing, volleyball, track you name it, but basketball maybe wasn't the best
choice for a comparison. Women's basketball doesn't have the same high
flying dunks, blocks and high shooting percentages as the men's game which
will always make it less entertaining. Also, I don't
understand why her desire to compete against men hurts women in any way. It
isn't marginalizing women's sports, it is obvious that the mens events
get more attention than the women's events. She has worked her whole life
to be the best she can be, why shouldn't she be able to show her talents on
the largest stage in her sport? It has the potential to help viewers realize
that the women's side has some incredible athletes of their own. And
Sorenstam competing in golf was actually a big deal, the fact that she competed
Lindsay is not being totally honest with us here. She says she
"doesn't know exactly how she'd stack up" against the men -
that's not true. She trains with the top U.S. men (like Ted Ligety and
Bode Miller) for months in the preseason, on the same courses. She knows
exactly where her times are with respect to them. And several times a year she
gets to participate in "communal training" with other top men's
teams like Austria and Norway, so she knows how she stacks up against them too.
This is just a publicity stunt - Vonn already knows where she sits with respect
to pretty much all the top male ski racers in the world.
"The women's basketball game is different from men's basketball
but it is no less difficult and entertaining."Um, ok Amy.
You're right. A Miami Heat vs. Oklahoma City Thunder is no more exciting
than WNBA team #1 vs. WNBA team #2.Don't get me wrong.
It's fine women want to play sports. But let's not kid ourselves by
pretending they are equally as exciting or difficult.