I'd like to counter the argument that "we need God in our schools"
in order to prevent such horrible tragedies. By "God," I assume these
people mean the Judeo-Christian version of God.I'm a secular
Jew who does not believe in *that* version of God. But I do believe in God: a
God of Light, of Love, of Creativity and Compassion. You can't scare kids
(or anyone else) into being "good" because a judgmental God is looking
down on you. You can only *model* what goodness and love are with your own
life, and hope children (and everyone else) picks up on it.If
"God" had remained in the schools, can anyone honestly think that Adam
Lanza would have said, "I'd better not kill anyone"?I,
too, deplore our violent, coarse, cheap-sex culture--and it wasn't the
Judeo-Christian God who makes me feel that way. It's the loving energy of
the God within me that makes me feel that way.In short, we can talk
about God in schools, but we must not--and cannot--*impose* God on anyone.
Doing so will not prevent these tragedies.
Mugabe. There have been nunerous reports of the perpetrator having mental
problems. I am not anti-gun. I juat wish there was a way to keep firearms out
of the hands of those who are a danger to themselves and others. I don't
think Adam was an evil person. I think we was most likely in serious need of
help. I agree with many of the posters on here. The discussion should be about
mental health and how we as a nation can more effectively find ways to help
those who desperately need outside intervention.
This is just one more example of why automatic and semi-automatic weapons should
NOT be in the possession of anyone but the military and law enforcement where
the weapons are kept secure when not in use by skilled, trained persons with a
"NEED to use".
The anger and sorrow that welled up in me when I read the horrific story of the
deaths of these innocent children was exacerbated by the number of gun lovers,
who cynically relegate these children to the collateral damage category
necessary for freedom US style. This same moral degeneracy is evidenced by the
US government's treatment of the deaths of innocent little children in the
Middle East, killed by US bombs. They too are relegated to the collateral damage
category required for freedom at the end of a gun.
This only happened yesterday and yet the news media seems to know everything
about everyone. Don't take what they are saying at face value. Give some
time to sort through things. Judging circumstances without solid evidence will
leave a stain on all of us that can't be taken away. That which is printed
suddenly becomes "gospel" and will be drug out over and over as proof of
something that someone wishes to prove. This is why the government seals
documents for 50 years - to give people time to find facts not emotions.God bless all of you at this terrible time. As caustic as it may seem
of me to say it, I pity Adam, his family, and friends more than those who have
lost loved ones because he pulled the trigger. I so appreciate the words of the
gentleman who said "the strength of faith will outlast and outshine the
tragedy." May that be so, I pray as I remember the actions of the Amish
people who lost children in similar circumstances.
coltakashi,No, the principle came running when she heard shots and
was gunned down. The killer by-passed the door and shot out a window to gain
entry. We don't know enough about the rest of the events to
judge the police response yet. Maybe this is a time to focus on the victims and
families and wait for more information before pointing fingers.
Very very sad. I might add something that also disturbed me greatly. The national news people were interviewing 2-3 graders live about what they
experienced.I find that completely uncalled for, and fines by the FCC
should be served.2 more thoughts. States need to reboot there mental
health hospitals that have been severally short changed the last 30 years.Then, they need to invoke the capital punishment for murder 1.
The New York Times reported the attack lasted from 9:30 to 10:30 AM. Police
should have been on the scene within five minutes, the way they were when
Trolley Square shopping center was attacked in Salt Lake and stopped the attack,
and then killed the murderer. I suspect that the police in that community have
some responsibility for the scale of this event. The Times also
reported that the school had a security system that locked the doors and that
the principal buzzed in the attacker because she recognized him as the son of
one of her teachers.
As a fellow Utahn and member of the same faith this hits a little closer to
home. I'm grateful for the knowledge we share of God's
plan for his children. May it bring peace and comfort to this family and others
at this time.
The further our progressive culture slides away from God, substituting mothers
with daycare, nuclear families with single parent homes, contraception for
virtue, traditional god-fearing values for pop culture, the more we can come to
expect these tragedies--no legislation, social program, or glib insights from
professional psychiatrists is going to change this trend. Until then, we are
only hacking at the limbs, leaving the root cause restlessly unattended in the
dry dirt of so-called progressive enlightenment.
Freedomforthepeople: There is no evidence that Adam had any disorder. His Mother
and Father are both responsible people, if Adam had any problems of the sort,
they would have gotten him some help.If what you suggest is
implemented, who will decide who is fit for society or not? And how do you know
that you do not fit the mold? It's dangerous when we start speculating
because we want answers, we can do more harm than good. This is a tragic
situation, but I think that we need to hold our opinions concerning the mental
condition of the shooter. No respectable Dr. should be making diagnosis when
they have not been involved in treatment for Adam. And there is no record of him
ever being treated for any mental health condition.Those precious
little children are in the arms of the Savior.
Oh man, speechless. Prayers and thoughts go out to all of the victims.
I second that we need to take better care of the mental illness. And I think it
goes farther than that in that a great deal of this nation's supposed
"sane" population think of guns and thier threat of violence as a
solution to thier problems. If the sane believe guns and thier
threat of violence are a solution to many of our common problems how in the
world do we suppose that a mentally ill person would not think it's
perfectly logical to have and use guns for his problem? !I've
heard from Huckabee that we need more "GOD" in school to solve this. If god is in your heart how could he NOT be in the schools? If God
is not in schools then he is not really in your hearts.
Very often people with personality disorders are not safe to themselves and
others and need to be institutionalized, perhaps for their lifetime. There is
very little medication that impacts it and therapy is ineffective. We must reinstitute our state institutions for mental illness and reinstate
laws that allow for people to be committed against their will. We will continue
to see these types of mass slayings if we continue to refuse to accept that our
move to close down the mental institutions came at a great price and one that we
are unwilling to continue to pay.Yes, this will require money and
the taxpayers will have to pay it. Let's replace 30% of our food stamps
and use the funds to open mental hospitals. It would be money better spent.
Americans are obese, not hungry. And those that are can get help from many
places in the community where they can be held accountable for the charity they
receive.But families with members who are severely mentally ill
cannot get help and their loved ones often harm themselves or others.
Thoughts and prayers go out to the Parker family, and all the others traumatized
by this senseless act of evil.There can be no justification or
excuse for this incident, and the full responsibility rests with the despicable
creature who killed these innocent children.May God bless you all.