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Published: Friday, Dec. 14 2012 12:05 p.m. MST

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The Jimmer
Okemos, MI

Every Division I school in the nation should meet in a large room, duke it out to decide once and for all with whom they are going to affiliate, and then stop all this nonsense.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

An embarrassment what we've done?

I'm guessing DH would have a different opinion if his Cougars had found a home in the PAC 12 or the Big 12.

Embarrassment? I suppose I can understand that sentiment from those who have been left out.

But for those with sufficient value to be included among the Big 5, the result of realignment has been quite satisfying.

Billy Budd
Saint George, UT

It appears that unless you jump/are invited into the SEC, Big TEN, Big 12 or the PAC 12, you could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. As long as BYU/ESPN partner, along with the BYU Network, BYU would be wise to stay independent upgrading their schedule as the opportunities arise.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Re: The Jimmer, Okemos, MI @12:25 p.m. Dec. 14, 2012

Mr.The Jimmer presents a pretty good plan.

But there will be certain schools that no one will want to associate with. Or, perhaps schools that will demand rights and concessions that no other school demands.

What shall we do with those schools?

Coach Biff
Lehi, UT

Who is we, Howard? I'm thinking BYU is better served as an independant rather than a consistant cellar dweller of an AQ conference. Waiting for the dust to settle appears to be the wiser choice.

Lindon, UT

This new Howard S. guy sure does think highly of him and his peeps on the hill.

Orange County, CA

The "satisfactory result of realignment"? - only if looking through one's own narrow perspective. Good for the whole of college sports? Decidedly not, in my opinion.

The Big 10 misnomer with 12 teams and growing to 14 stretching from Nebraska to New Jersey doesn't even make numerical sense. The so-called Big 12 with 10 teams? At least the Big 12 makes geographical sense. The SEC with midwestern Mizzou and southwestern Texas A&M? The Big East in shambles taking intermountain BSU and west coast SDSU? It's geographical nonsense if the Big East survives this "satisfactory realignment." Century-old rivalries like the Longhorns and the Aggies not playing each other? Utah dumping BYU for Fresno? We get a little more recruiting exposure in CA, but southern Californians could care less about Fresno unless their kids go there.

The Pac 12 makes geographic, financial, and institutional sense. It might even help the U get into the prestigious AAU.

Realignment is driven by football schools trying to get into a BCS automatic qualifying conference (driven by the idiocy of the BCS format) or conferences trying to increase TV market penetration. We're lucky UT and OU said no.

Now let's play like we belong!

Highland, UT


howie is not "new around here. He simply slunk away in shame under his rock while this latest football season was underway. Now that it is over he has reappeared since he appears to have gotten over the humiliation of 5-7, or at least he is tryng to get over that humiliation. he'll be around until next years losing commences and then he'll slink away again. Kinda like naval vet who also dissapeared for a few months while utah was on its losing streak then all of a sudden re-appeard when they won a game. Ditto christina b.

You'll see this pattern repeated over and over again as the years progress because what we saw this year will be the standard for utah football and what we see from those 3 is the standard for utah "fans".




Just gotta get your daily cut in, don't you? Don't you have anything better to do?

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Duckhunter - Feeling better after 24-21?

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

79Ute- I hear there are a few season tickets available at LES... might want to check in to it.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Coach Biff - So I take it you will be holding out for an invite from an AQ conference in which BYU will not be a cellar dweller.

Good luck with that.

Reminds me of Uncle Eddie holding out for a "management position".

Iowa City, IA

Don't agree with the title, I think Harmons is right to attribute some wisdom to BYU.


Another wasted 3 minutes of my life. I really need to stop reading your hot air full of cliches. Tell us something we don't already know Dick!

Sandy, UT

@Howard S.

Howard, who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?
Too many posts Howie.
Time to dial it back a notch.

You just look and sound desperate at this point.

BYU has been safe on the high ground since the day they declared Independence.
They have been wise to sit back and watch the madness.

These other schools jumping all over the place are just desperate attempts to be noticed and relevant, it's just sad and pathetic.

Unless BYU can get a better deal than they already have with ESPN and are allowed to keep their own Network TV rights, count on BYU staying put.
This is their new normal.

Unlike Utah, BYU does not need a Conference Crutch nor do they need to ride the Coat-Tails of others. BYU's Brand is established.

Utah will struggle in the Pac for a very long time. They are last in Athletic Budgets and near the bottom in Academics. And outside of gymnastics, Championships in any sport, will not be forthcoming anytime soon.

Meanwhile, BYU's overall athletic program continues to have it's regular 8-10 Top 25 programs a year, just as they have done for 40 years now.

Springville, UT

Dick, I can appreciate what you're TRYING to do. But had BYU joined the Big East, the school would still at least be able to share in the new FBS playoff revenue. Even the mid-major conferences will be getting $86 million to split among the 40 teams. The BCS conferences, like the PAC-12, will get $91 million to split with just twelve schools.
And how much does BYU get?
Nothing . . .

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

It's better for BYU to ride this conference shuffle wave out on our small, but comfortable, private yacht, than to be running around on the deck of the Titanic playing musical chairs.

If you think the Big East carnage has been ugly, just wait until you see what's coming for the much more highly regarded ACC.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I wouldn't start gloating just yet, Dick. It looks like BYU won't escape the fallout entirely. St. Mary's and Gonzaga are rumored to be joining the consortium of basketball playing Catholic Schools leaving the Big East. Meanwhile, Independence hasn't been all was cracked up to be.

The real question is "what is the end game?" Why not put together a small conference in the West of say seven or eight teams, leaving plenty of opportunity to play outside schools. That may be the foundation for something that would make sense for BYU to join.

Salt Lake City, UT

The key to Utah and BYU is to win football games. As long as they win good things will happen regardless of the current (it changes almost daily) environment.

Utah has a right to brag because they were allowed to "buy in" to the PAC. The buy in is important becasue it puts things into perspective. Their new rival Colorado did not have to buy in. But now Utah is in and good things can happen if they can win.

BYU has a right to be proud also because they landed very nicely in spite of the "no Sunday play" ball and chain that has been and always will be dragging around their ankle. They are establishing the "BYU Brand" and fun things are happening with BYUtv. But they must win also.

I have mixed thoughts about games between the two though. They are great games and once of the field it is dangerous to be a "favorite". A great rivalry! Except, the hatred and downright nastiness of the fans toward each other. Mocking, name calling, throwing things at each other. Nothing much is good whe the fans go after each other.

A fan fix is needed first.

taylorsville, UT

How can DH say BYU was lucky. How do we know if byu even receved an invitation? It seems most Y fans think they are a hot item. It doesn't appear to be the case. Nobody want's them.

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