Comments about ‘Parents beware: A cautionary tale of a sexual predator’

Return to article »

Published: Thursday, Dec. 13 2012 7:00 p.m. MST

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Pragmatic
Salt Lake City, UT

very sad on many many levels. bless the victims, the victims family and the predators family. I feel sorry for all of them; as well as the predator. The fact that he was molested and bullied as a young man and never had the opportunity to recover is tragic for all..

indycrimson
Franklin, IN

Thought provoking article. I will be asking myself the presumptuous question possed by the accused..."does everyone deserve a second chance"??

Not sure I like either side of that question in the case of child abuse. Failing that second chance is extremely expensive for the next victim.

mountain man
Salt Lake City, UT

Thank goodness he has a supportive wife and mother.
They say some sexual predators cannot be rehabilitated.
In this case there seems to be a lack of acknowledgement of the crimes.
He will get the psychological therapy he needs in prison but he also will be prohibited from
Abusing more boys.
Who knows the cause. Who knows the cure.
I feel very bad for him and for his victims.

bribri86
Phoenix, AZ

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." - Luke 17:2

comment
Rawlins, WY

His "second chance" is in jail, rather than dead.

SLC gal
Salt Lake City, UT

At what point do you have to take responsibility for your actions? So life hands you some bad deals. Get over yourself! We all have scars!

Hopefully, while serving the prison sentance he so richly deserves (yes, he says he's sorry, but so do most murderers), he gets the counseling he obviously needs.

Mom of 8
Hyrum, UT

There's mercy--"Give me a second chance"-- and then there's justice, for all those kids who are now as scarred as he is, or other kids who he may prey upon in the future.

Mercy cannot rob justice.

Yes, he suffered. But does it make it right for him to make others suffer? He was at this for two years, and no point in that time did he think, "Hey, this isn't right. What am I doing? I should get help"?

Yes, that's extremely difficult to do. But if he had stopped himself and sought help, then his plea for "Give me a second chance" would seem more sincere.

The fact that he was caught and forced into stopping suggests he would have continued damaging children. He's not ready for a second chance, and neither are our children.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

He seems like a "monster" to me, and prison is where he will do best.

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

Very sad story. Maybe two lessons to be learned:

1) The internet is a cesspool, stop being addicted to Facebook (this includes probably every woman in Utah)
2) Take a look around and see if you can "not" bully someone today. I see it everywhere. Is it human nature to try and place yourself above someone else so you feel secure?

Yes, people that hurt other people need to be separated from society.

Just a voice
Layton, UT

Biggest take away: Do not trust any relatives or friends with your children. It happens way too often and is not worth the risk! Protect your children!

Itsme2
SLC, UT

Oh, and plus he's blaming his crimes on his father's death? Well, that's rich. How sickening! And when I say he's a "monster," I mean it!

slgs5aggie
Cedar City, UT

This is indeed a great cautionary story for parents and children alike. Parents must work hard at monitoring what their children do online. Stop providing them such easy access to devices without having a watchful eye. On the other hand I have to mention my disgust as I read this article and the attempt to minimize this mans actions, and the audacity and enabling of his own mother family to try to blame away what he had done on the death of his father, and his previous emotional difficulties. Love and support your family, please do not try to excuse away their behavior. Behaviors, the actions that we do are a choice. Those choices are based upon our reactions to life, but still are a choice. I had close family member pass away recently, that in no way gives me permission or an excuse to go out and ruin the life of somebody else.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Here?
In Zion?!

Nah - All's well in Zion!

MapleDon
Springville, UT

This is clearly a sad story and an interesting reflection of a degraded society. There are a few items from this case that I found worthy of further questioning.

1. The term "robbing someone's innocence" is used frequently as an effort to clarify the "perpetrator" and "victim" in a case. The rape of a girl walking to school clearly delineates the "victim" and the "perp". However, a girl looking for sex and finding it with a man makes the classification of "victim" or "innocence" not as effective. Likewise, in this case, several boys were looking for sex and continued to act on that urge, sexting with the hope of eventually having sex. Had they been photographed without their consent, it would be easy to refer to them as "victims" and "innocent", which is further diluted by the fact that they were never physically abused. "Disappointed" would be a more appropriate term.

2. The law seems to weigh more heavily on transmission of sexually explicit material of a minor, rather than on actual sexual abuse of a minor. That seems backwards.

3. Sexual predators don't have a history of successful rehabilitation. For the protection of society, they need confinement.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Conscious decisions to pursue sexual predation are not simply "mistakes." If there are scientific evidences that rehabilitation is effective, please present them to the court.

JSB
Sugar City, ID

I'm always a little suspicious of people who, with tear-filled eyes admit to their horrible crimes and then ask for a lighter sentence. If he felt as sorry as he says he is then he would acknowledge that he has done some horrible things and that he doesn't deserve to live in society with other people. He would acknowledge that for the protection of society, spending the rest of his life in prison is the best place for him and people like him.

Just a voice
Layton, UT

MapleDon, I agree with your #3, not sure about #2. I have problems with #1. Do you think it is easier to tempt, persuade, direct, lead... a 12 year old than it is to influence a 20 year old? I do. I can talk my kids into a lot of things that are wrong, because they are still young and innocent. They are still victims even if they do something stupid or immature, because they are not yet fully mature. That doesn't mean they take responsibility for their actions, but the weight of responsibility we place on them has to be age appropriate.

Lindy-Lou
San Antonio, TX

Soapbox time: I keep wondering about the CONSTANT misuse of the word "mistake" ~ both in and out of my chosen faith, which happens to be LDS. Click on your dictionary and you will see that a "mistake" is an INVOLUNTARY act. Like taking the wrong exit off the freeway. Like forgetting what time that appointment was. Like calling Carol "Barbara." If you peek at your neighbor's algebra paper during a test, that's a BAD CHOICE. If you shoplift, that's a BAD CHOICE. If you cheat on your spouse, that's a BAD CHOICE. If you lure young people to your porn filth, that's a BAD CHOICE. NONE of those acts are MISTAKES, darn you folks! I cringe every time I hear a Church leader say "You must repent of your mistakes" or, "She then repented for her mistakes." NO! NO! NO! We don't repent for missing appointments, we repent for being involved with cheating, lying, porn, etc. The YW department of the Church is the only entity that gets it right: The orange value is "CHOICE and accountability" not "MISTAKES and accountability." There. I'll get down off my soapbox now.

Sasha Pachev
Provo, UT

Without taking away from the seriousness of the crime I fully agree with MapleDon's point 1. I think we give too much of what does not help and expect too little of our teenage boys. When the times were harder and we were not so prosperous we economically could not afford to let teenagers drift. They had to take responsibility early. They married at 15 and raised families taking care of them better, considering their circumstances, than their 25-30 year old counterparts today who half the time cannot even stay married after 5 years or less. We need to raise our boys with the same resilience, work ethic, sense of responsibility and strength of character that allowed young men of the past to do what they did. You cannot do that with video games. You can if you teach values by precept and example, and give them real responsibilities.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Everyone has the ability to control his or her actions. EVERYONE! No matter how many problems this guy has, there is no excuse for his responding to them in this way.

Even if he was molested, he has the power to choose a different course. He is clearly dangerous and needs to seek help within the prison system where he cannot damage anyone else. His actions were not spontaneous or involuntary, they were very deliberate and took place over a long period. He had plenty of time to think about what he was doing.

Sorry for his family, but he needs to be in prison.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments