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SDSU's Long doesn't consider bowl game against BYU a home game

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  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 15, 2012 10:56 a.m.

    Since joining the PAC 12/becoming Independent

    BYU - one Top 25 finish, two winning seasons, two bowl games
    Utah - unranked, one losing season, one bowl game

    The only team I see crying in the corner by themselves are the bottom dwelling Utes cast aside by the big boys of their conference.

    Enjoy the couch potato bowl; it's the only bowl the Utes are good enough to play in anymore.

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    btw, if the Utes had beaten the only WAC team they played this season, they'd be bowling. Unfortunately for U, you weren't even good enough to do that.

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Dec. 14, 2012 10:10 p.m.

    @ Striker

    "Yeah, SDSU thinks they could win in the PAC. Utah had that dream, but it got shattered, big time!"

    BYU had that dream where they're invited to join the Pac-12, but that dream got shattered BIG time when big brother Utah got the Pac-12's invitation and left BYU crying in the corner by themselves (independence).

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Dec. 14, 2012 7:34 p.m.

    Bronco is not annoncing that Riley will start possiblly to increase attendance. I know I would not buy

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 14, 2012 7:03 p.m.

    Long is a dork... He might be Utahs next coach!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Dec. 14, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    I thought this article was about the Poinsettia Bowl. Instead it's a SMAK down of Utah vs BYU. Why Ute posters denigrate BYU's history is beyond me. Now Utah is in the PAC12, where it has been hammered to the bottom of the pack. Maybe they'll break into the upper half someday.

    Realistically? Utah has never even beaten my Dawgs. And UW has bought out their contract with BYU after losing another series against them. UW is ducking BYU, WSU bought out their home game against BYU and now Utah is ducking BYU. No wonder that PAC12 didn't want BYU. Half their schools are afraid to play them.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    Dec. 14, 2012 4:29 p.m.

    I remember when BYU used to have more fans at the SDSU games in San Diego. It is a major accomplishment if they can get to 50-50 as Long suggests. However, this is still a home game for the Aztecs because they play all their home games on the same field.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 14, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    lost in DC

    Claiming there has never been a major college football national champion is simply Utedom's way of coping with the fact that the Utes have never even come close to winning the Crystal Football National Championship trophy that ESPN displays every Gameday because it's the singular prize EVERY major college football program covets.

    BYU didn't win the 1984 National Championship by beating a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.

    BYU won the 1984 National Championship by winning 24 consecutive games, beating two Top 15 teams on the road, finishing in the Top 7 in both polls in back-to-back seasons, and convincing the majority of poll voters that BYU was THE MOST DESERVING team to be selected the CONSENSUS Major College Football National Champions for 1984.

    The buildup to BYU's national championship included finishing in the Top 12 in five of six seasons from 1979 to 1984, and having one of the most prolific offenses in the country led by a string of Heisman Trophy finalists - Marc Wilson, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, and Robbie Bosco.

    Utah's ENTIRE football history pales in comparison to what BYU accomplished in those six seasons alone.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    motorbike

    No need to cut and paste, the numbers are easy to remember, especially the years Utah finished in the Top 25, since there have been so few of them.

    1964 - Coaches only
    1994 - first AP ranking
    2003-2004 - first back-to-back Top 25 rankings
    2008-2009-2010 - first back-to-back-to-back rankings in one poll

    As far as national awards for Utah go, ZERO is also pretty easy to remember.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but there aren't any national awards associated with winning a "bcs" bowl.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Dec. 14, 2012 1:42 p.m.

    motorbike

    The "convenient range of time" BlueCoug picked is simply the period when BYU started building it's football legacy.

    Unfortunately for U, the Utes have no football legacy to speak of, on a national scale, so your ONLY response is to whine about "cutting and pasting" statistics.

    "Utah by 5" was once a popular "battle cry" for the Utes; it's also the total number of Utah AP Top 25 finishes.

    Regardless of how you spin it, that's absolutely PATHETIC for a program that tries to bill itself as one of the "big boys".

    BYU has almost as many AP Top 25 finishes in the last 5 years (4), as Utah has during its ENTIRE football history (5).

    No wonder the Utes are replacing BYU, a team with SEVENTEEN AP Top 25 finishes, with FSU, a team that only has TWO AP Top 25 finishes. The Bulldogs are much closer to Utah's level of ineptitude when it comes to national rankings.

    LOL!

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 1:38 p.m.

    dww722 - bluecoug
    dominated for decades? You mean the 70s and 80s, right? 30-40 years ago. What’s the overall record? Utah has a 20 game lead.

    You know, blue coug, turning blue is a sign of oxygen deprivation, which is not good for the mental faculties –

    there is NO national champion, never has been, just a poll champion. And tell us how many other teams were awarded their poll championship by beating a 6 win Michigan team in a lower tier bowl game?

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    Dec. 14, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    BYU can will. But, will they win? I'll save my comments for after the game. I don't expect much. I hope for a good game, win or lose. It ought to be a fairly even match up.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    BlueCoug,

    Just curious, do you keep those BYU-Utah stats in a Word doc on your computer so you can quickly copy and paste them each time you need them? Or do you go back to Wikipedia each and every time?

    I always get a good laugh at the person who goes back and selects a convenient range of time to suit their purpose. But hey, if you wish to keep living in the 70's and 80's I don't blame you. Despite the Ute football woes, I too really enjoyed those years - good times.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    PAC12 would be in desperate times to add SDSU to the conference, the last thing USC and UCLA want is another school on/near their home turf.

    Go Cougars, I hope this game goes well. If BYU can run the ball then we'll have a great shot at winning.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    54-IQ

    You're just jealous that since BYU started playing games in the ESA, BYU has had the highest attended games played in SLC every year.

    Looking forward to attending a bowl game in San Diego for the first time since the National Championship season.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    Of course it isn't a home game for SDSU to BYU "fan". BYU always plays basketball games at ESA in Salt Lake and we hear how it is a "neutral site game" so I'm sure BYU "fan" would feel the same way about this game.

    It's a neutral site.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 9:22 a.m.

    pebbles

    Since 1972 when LaVell became BYU's head coach.

    Top 25 Finishes
    BYU - 18
    Utah - 6

    Conference Championships
    BYU - 22
    Utah - 5

    National Championships
    BYU - 1
    Utah - 0

    Heisman Trophies
    BYU - 1
    Utah - 0

    National Individual Award Winners
    BYU - 15
    Utah - 0

    National College Football Hall of Fame Inductees
    BYU - 6
    Utah - 0

    Head-to-head
    BYU - 26
    Utah - 15

    Despite Utah's recent head-to-head success and a couple of break through seasons, overall, BYU has DOMINATED U for decades, in fact, it isn't even close.

  • estreetshuffle Window Rock, AZ
    Dec. 14, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    Are you little kids finished throwing rocks? Just enjoy the bowl game.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    "Every conference has teams that are top-tier, middle-level, and those at the bottom,..."

    That's why the PAC 10.2 added Colorado and Utah, to give WSU some company at the bottom.

    Two years in and the Utes are right where non-crimson glasses wearing fans expected the Utes to be.

    You're nothing but cannon-fodder for the big boys of the conference, get used to it.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 9:09 a.m.

    Yep. Utah can't ever beat good teams.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Dec. 14, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    dww722, BYU has dominated Utah for decades? That's funny and delusional. Go look at the last decade and overall, not even close. All I can say is "wow."

  • dww722 North Salt Lake, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    Too bad BYU will never see the PAC12 even though they deserve an invite. To mention SDSU to the PAC12 before BYU is probably true but sooo absurd not to mention Utah who BYU has dominated for decades. Jealous? Probably, but only because BYU is so much more deserving.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    Like I said, it's much easier to "talk the talk", but it's entirely another matter when you must "walk the walk".

    Every conference has teams that are top-tier, middle-level, and those at the bottom, but the cumulative effect of playing a BCS conference schedule each year means talent levels and depth of talent must be vastly improved over those teams playing in lesser conferences.

    Two years in, the Utes haven't reached the level needed. That is no secret. They are striving to get there, but the difference is, they at least, have the chance to find out on the field, while others are only fantasizing about how well they would do.

    If that upsets some people, I guess we can refer to Jack Nicholson's movie line: "you can't handle the truth."

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Dec. 14, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    TheNun

    When Colorado, Washington State, and Northern Colorado are on your schedule and you still can't qualify for a bowl game, the task becomes impossible.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Dec. 14, 2012 7:52 a.m.

    Let's be clear, the Aztecs would have the opportunity to see how well they would fare in the Pac12, long before the Cougars ever would.

    It's great to ramble on about how well your team would do in the Pac12 while playing in the MWC, but it is entirely a different "ballgame" when the schedule is laid out and you must prove it on the field.

    When Wyoming, NMSU, Idaho, Idaho State, Colorado State, Air Force and UNLV aren't on your schedule, the task becomes much more difficult, week in, week out.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Dec. 14, 2012 6:37 a.m.

    Yeah, SDSU thinks they could win in the PAC. Utah had that dream, but it got shattered, big time!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Dec. 13, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    Pssst, good thing Chris B won't read the article through all the way to the end.