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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 12 2012 12:25 p.m. MST

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dumprake
Washington, UT

In an article like this where you mention Ziggy's speed, you need to tell the reader what that is. You mention his size, you should tell the reader how tall he is, and his weight, and wingspan. Somehow you managed to leave all those details out. It's an incomplete article.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Wow, this story got hi-jacked by the moronic statements of Chris B. and others.

Congrats to Ziggy, this is truly an amazing accomplishment. Nothing but praise for this kid and hopefully the opportunity ahead of him.

Who would criticize or belittle this?

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@sammyg

"Who would criticize or belittle this?"

I know that was a rhetorical question but the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

Proud Ute
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sammyg

Springville, UT

Wow, this story got hi-jacked by the moronic statements of Chris B. and others.

Congrats to Ziggy, this is truly an amazing accomplishment. Nothing but praise for this kid and hopefully the opportunity ahead of him.

Who would criticize or belittle this?

Duckhunter

Highland, UT

@sammyg

"Who would criticize or belittle this?"

I know that was a rhetorical question but the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

Just curious.....
Do you have to log off when you answer yourself like this?

UteMiguel
Go Utes, CA

Chris b, you embarrass real ute fans.

BYU fans who continue to get baited by chris b, you embarrass yourselves.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

It never gets old to see how badly it irritates you to see the Utes steal your thunder. Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you, but mostly it just makes me laugh.

trentster
TUSTIN, CA

My ten year old granddaughter could have written a more complete and informative article than this one. Come on, sharpen the pencil or word processor or whatever you are using and inform your reading public. Please!

canadiancougar624
Pleasant Grove, UT

Is it just me or do Utah fans care more about BYU than they do about their own team??

kosimov
Riverdale, UT

For those who are squawking about NFL draft picks from Utah OR BYU:

You miss the point when you argue either way about this. It is widely known that the Y has limiting conduct, morality and "honor code" rules which greatly limit the size and qualities of the field of young men BYU can recruit from. As a BYU alum, I am happy to accept that, as well as to accept that not very many BYU players will be top draft picks: the honor code excludes many potential football stars. Many people, including football fans, ESPECIALLY the fans, are glad to have players with the highest moral and ethical character represent the school in athletics. While the U, like any government sponsored school, must formally disregard the conduct and moral character of athletes; a coach MUST place players in the NFL much as a professor is expected to publish or go elsewhere. Bronco has a different directive from the Y's administrators and financial backers, the LDS church, than Whit does. LaVelle focused more on character building than winning games, with success in both areas; Bronco must follow his leader's wishes and do likewise. We must be patient.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

UteMiguel: Well said.

Ansah has been fun to watch and maybe we can find a few more like him in Ghana?

2BCSWINS
West of I15, UT

@KOSIMOV....Get off your high horse every school recruits high character young men. Do you honestly believe coaches go around alright lets find the worst behaved young men in america for our squad. Do you honestly believe low character athletes are the only one's making it to the NFL?

The honor code is a very poor excuse for not putting players in the NFL, loses, etc. Every football team has their own team rules that players must abide by. Every coach wants hard working high character young men on their team.

Byufanforlife
Pacific Grove, CA

To all you ute fans Utah did offer Bernard a scholarship but as defensive back he wanted to play running back so he chose Byu secondly Star WILL NOT be a number overall pick he was always projected to be in the top 3 or 5 most likely Matt Barkley or Geno smith will be picked first, also most of whits player in the NFL are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad with the with the exception of Eric weddle(although urban Meyer coached him too) and with byu players a lot of them have had success in the NFL, Steve young,vai sikahema,Ty detmer Jim McMahon Brett keisel but recently like Utahs player they are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad too with the exception of Dennis Pitta and Dallas Reynolds

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@motorbike

How is you sticking your foot in your mouth "stealing my thunder"? That doesn't make a bit of sense.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

After reading everything I could about Ziggy (so I could write his wiki article), I became increasingly impressed with his story but also relieved that he didn't start until mid-way through this season. He isn't proven and he'll likely be selected high in the draft more for his story than his stats. Yes, watching him shows he is likely an NFL talent, but we don't know that for sure, yet. Because he has been so dominant over just a few games, and because he doesn't have next year to prove himself, he will probably get lucky and be drafted based on a very small sampling of his potential. This never happens in the NFL (like it does in the NBA) so Ziggy is very fortunate that news sources have repeatedly mentioned his inability to put on pads, his trying out for the basketball team, etc. Everyone likes a good story.
He could also credit much of his draft status to KVN, who probably did just as much Ziggy coaching as the rest of the Cougar staff. It'll be fun to see both of these young men excel at the next level. Go Cougs!

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

deductive reasoning:

"How embarrassing it must be for U to have the number one draft pick and still not be good enough to beat a lowly WAC team to qualify for a bowl!"

So the current #18 team in the country is "lowly" now? That sure doesn't suggest there's been any "deductive reasoning" in YOUR frantic and emotional post. And for what it's worth, we DID beat a lowly WAC team this year. We beat the cougars last September, remember?

The last time one of our two programs lost to a "lowly WAC team" was when you guys got routed 31-16 in Logan vs. a 4-8 Aggie squad back in 2010. And if I recall correctly, the cougars needed to pack their alumni up in the replay booth vs. SDSU to ensure they'd finish 6-6, rather than 5-7 that year. Recognize.

Snark
Provo, UT

Ansah is a remarkable story that has no relation to Utah. Star is a remarkable story without reference to BYU. Those that read for the enjoyment of human achievement will take pleasure in both stories. Those who read for ammunition to continue aged and Limburger-like playground blustering clog the the discourse and obscure the good that could come from civil dialogue.

Set up a machismo blog site and challenge all comers if you want to continue the boorish and beleaguered bantering, and leave the comments on thoughtful articles to those with something relevant to say.

2BCSWINS
West of I15, UT

@cougiefanforlife...."also most of whits player in the NFL are buried in the depth chart or on the practice squad with the with the exception of Eric weddle"

Really? you must not watch the NFL that much. Zane Beadles going to be all pro linemen for AFC west champs, Bryce Mccain starting corner for best team in AFC texans, Sean Smith Koa Misi, RJ stanford & Paul Solai all start for Dolphins. Sionne Pouha best Def player on the Jets outside revis, Tony Bergstrom starting tackle for the raiders, Robert Johnson starting saftey for Titans, Paul Kruger starting OLB for ravens, Steven sylvester LB steelers.

Yes we also have several back ups as well not sure how having 0 is better then this. Guess we are talking cougie logic though....LOL

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

GoRed

"if Utah had played BYU's cream puff schedule, they would have been 9-3, maybe 10-2."

LOL!

IF Utah had played BYU's schedule, the Utes would have been destroyed by Notre Dame, Oregon State ( no brainer) and Georgia Tech, and would have lost to Utah State (no brainer), San Jose State, Boise State. Best case scenario is Utah would have finished 6-6 an bowl eligible, but since Utah has proven that they're capable of losing to ANYBODY, with the pressure of qualifying for a bowl, the Utes would have probably lost to Colorado, AGAIN, to finish 5-7, exactly where the Utes finished.

"And conversely, if BYU had played Utah's schedule, your team would have been 4-8 at the best, although 3-9 would have been more likely."

IF BYU had played Utah's schedule, the Cougars would have beaten Northern Colorado, Utah State (no brainer), Washington State (no brainer), and Colorado, with a good chance of winning two or even all three versus Washington, Arizona, and Arizona State, and a possible upset of USC. Worst case scenario, 6-6; likely 7-5.

btw, BYU was one mis-snap scoop and score away from beating Utah.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Naval Vet

"So the current #18 team in the country is "lowly" now? "

Do you understand what hyperbole is?

According to our friends on the hill, EVERY WAC team is "lowly".

If you don't believe that, do a quick search past D-news blogs and you'll find a constant stream of disparaging comments about the WAC posted by jealous Utah fans since BYU's short-term scheduling agreement with the WAC became public.

Obviously, Utah State and San Jose State aren't lowly this season, but unlike our friends on the hill, BYU fans are smart enough to recognize that conference affiliation doesn't determine how good a team is. There are teams in the MAC this year that are MUCH better than some of the teams in the PAC 10.2, including U.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

The hysterical jealous frenzy Ziggy's story is causing amongst Ute faithful is truly disturbing for the fan base of a program of Utah's stature.

Try as we might to find it's equal in Ute lore, we're simply grasping at straws and must once again admit that BYU's reality is Utah's fantasy.

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