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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 11 2012 5:05 p.m. MST

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Doogie
South Jordan, Utah

Gov. Herbert if the federal government doesn't cave to your request you should tell them you are not going to participate in the state mandated program. To date 23 state have stated they will participate, 20 states have said they won't and 7 including Utah are undecided. The only way that we have left to defeat Obamacare is for the states to say they will not participate in the federally mandated exchange. You need to take a stand on this and not cave in!

Ett
Salt Lake City, UT

I fear the Governor's plea will fall on deaf ears. I sincerely hope he has the fortitude to opt for "not at all." My wife is battling terminal brain cancer, and has received the best care with as little burden on us as we could ask for. The system wasn't as broken as Pr. Obama made out. Stand firm your Honor.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Gov. Herbert is a good man, and sincerely wants to provide better health care for everyone with flexibility and regard for costs and effectiveness.

His plea will be rejected by Obama, who seeks to destroy private health care delivery, and the insurance concept that supports it, so that he can replace it all with a single government run health care rationing system.

Nothing in Obamacare schemes does a thing to increase the supply of doctors, nurses, hospitals, clinics, CNAs, labs or medical device providers to increase the availability and reduce costs of medical care. Instead it taxes the providers, encourages people to leave the field, and hospitals to close, hurting every American.

Obama will reject Gov. Herbert's request, and probably take his time doing it. At that point, Utah MUST refuse to set up an Obamacare "exchange."

one old man
Ogden, UT

My family has had experiences with health insurance in Utah.

ACA, if allowed to operate as the Republicans who first proposed it long ago, will be a Godsend for all of us.

Why must partisan politics always trump common sense in Utah?

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

To the first three comments, when Obama was first elected in 2008, not one single American said that our health care system was just fine as is. Every American wanted a better system. Remember? Obama took on the challenge. Republicans obstructed all the way. Ironically, what we got was based on a Republican Massachusetts model, and Utah was already way ahead of the game on insurance exchange. What's the problem, if not for the "D" stamped on the federal proposal?

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Governor, don't waste your breath. If Obama was even slightly interested in cutting costs and serving the people we would not have created a monstrosity that creates 1968 new bureaucracies, will drive costs through the roof and violates the constitution in multiple ways. Obama's purpose is to force every American to become dependent upon the US government. He wants your life to depend upon the government. Once this happens over 80% of the population will become reliable Democrat voters.

Why would anyone deliberately destroy the most powerful economy in the world? The most insidious thing about socialism is not the fact that it destroys economies but the fact that the perpetrator ends up looking compassionate. First he destroys your job, then he give you welfare and we all go; "Man, am I happy we have that welfare check coming in. If it were not for Obama, we would be toast. Sure glad those mean Republicans are not in power, we would be out on the street begging." NO. You would still have your job if those mean Republicans were in power.

Bail out on the exchanges. The only winning move is not to play.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

@ EDM

Obama Care only has three things in common with the Massachusetts model:

1. It deals with health care.
2. It has insurance exchanges.
3. It has an individual mandate.

The Massachusetts model does not create 1968 new government bureaucracies.
It does not create a situation that will ultimately drive every private insurance carrier into bankruptcy.
It was designed to reduce costs (but fail in that respect). The Obama plan drives costs through the roof.
It does not include death panels who decide who gets to live and who dies. Obama care does not even allow you to spend your own money for treatment they deny.

Obama Care delegates so much authority to the executive branch that along with the new financial regs and all the other programs that delegate authority to the executive branch that congress is now irrelevant. The separation of powers no longer exists. The house has no power over the purse strings. We have not had a budget in three years. The house is powerless to drive the agenda and it was intended to be the most powerful part of the federal government.

Bill Shakespeare
Salt Lake City, UT

Republicans against Obama care? Yawn.

Cherilyn Eagar
Holladay, UT

This is the kicker, my friends...read closely:

"'This decision reminds us that we shouldn't let our hard-earned federal tax dollars go to other states that choose to expand," he said. "The feds are offering states a fantastic financial deal. It would be fiscally irresponsible not to take it.'

"He said Medicaid expansion, which has already met a lot of controversy in the state, 'should be a top priority' in the 2013 legislative session."

And thus we are led down the path to tyranny.

KTC John
Wetumpka, AL

Dear Gov. Herbert,
I hope that you do not trade away the freedom and independence of the good citizens of Utah for federal money, regardless of the claimed source of that federal money. In the long run, volutarily surrendering your legal rights never turns out to be a good decision. History has already vindicated the well-reasoned dissenting opinions of wise justices that forewarned of the dire consequences that have now come to pass in America. Had the opinions of those dissenting justices been heeded, our nation would never have become immersed in federal deficit spending aimed at lifting people socially based on the limited federal right to regulate interstate commerce. The entire federal healthcare system is based on an absurd legal fiction. Please remember, the states created the federal government---not vice versa. It is time to say enough and you have a sterling opportunity.

EDM
Castle Valley, Utah

@The Rock

I'm as disappointed as you are that the current plan doesn't adequately address spiraling costs. My point is that back in 2008 our country was so ripe for reform - EVERYONE wanted it - and it is Republican obstructionism that has left us so far off the mark. Why couldn't we have a government option to compete with private insurance to keep costs down? How did competition suddenly become a bad idea?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Why should BO grant a reguest from a red governor from a red state? It will never happen.

Governor, just say no to BO's tyranny.

If our tax dollars go to states that cave and we get none, we should sue under the 14th amendment. The SCOTUS has already ruled states don't have to participate. Of course, we know the constitution means nothing to the dems if it stands in their way.

Joshua Steimle
Draper, UT

Instead of trying to grab federal dollars we should be refusing them, and the strings attached to them, and joining the movement to nullify Obamacare.

Obamacare has nothing to do with politicians wanting people to have good health coverage. It has everything to do with getting votes and obtaining more power. These people cannot be trusted. I don't just mean those with a D in front of their names, I mean none of them can be trusted, D or R. All politicians are guilty until proven innocent, and we can't gauge their innocence until they're out of office and we can track how much harm they've done.

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

The main thing wrong with the State plan is it doesn't work. Still leaves 300,000 uninsured Utahns.
"They had better die and decrease the surplus population". Ebenezer Scrooge.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

The Gov should stay out of Washington, and start fixing our pathetic education system here.
He said it was his "top priority".
But then, he IS a politician, and that sounded good when he was grovelling for votes....

Doogie
South Jordan, Utah

Yes we all wanted reforms to health insurance. Everyone that has made a comment in support of Obamacare seems to have a short memory. As I recall, none of the Republican suggestions were even taken into account when this bill was being passed. The Democrats just ramrodded this through as they had the majority in both the Senate and the House. As a result of this legislation and the ramifications that it had the House won back a Republican majority in the next elections. People are tired of political chicanery, this bill is not logical. Do you know who they have being the watch dog on this? You are correct if you guessed the IRS. They are going to hire an additional 16,000 agents to make sure that it is followed (among other things if you get my drift). You think you have problems now with the IRS and federal government breathing down your neck wait a few years!

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah does not want to help the medically indigent. Period.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Oh, and Governor Herbert, if you intend in ANY way to restrict my medicare benefits you will face an insurrection.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "dalefarr" too bad it is the government that is doing its best to reduce the excess population.

The cuts to Medicare will decrease the number of doctors willing to work with the elderly. That will cause the elderly problems since they will not be able to get care unless they have money set aside for supplemental insurance.

Next, you have the recent changes to organ transplant lists that the government maintains. They have shifted the rules so that working aged people rank high on the list, while the elderly and young do not.

Plus, what happens in 3 years? The article mentioned that additional funding for Medicaid would only last 3 years. What then? Won't the poor and elderly be thrown out again once the Federal money dries up?

Brother Wolf
Salt Lake City, UT

We ought to get our house in order.

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