Why is the Federal government handing out passes saying that it's ok to
break federal law? Where did the President get the authority to allow this?
Something's not right here.
There are two lawsuits against Obama's executive order. The border patrol
claim it's forcing them to violate Federal law, as they are still here
illegally. It's a huge conflict between the laws on the books, and
Obama's order. Fair chance it's overturned, then the
government has both them and their parents information.
Being illegal in Utah doesn't have any consequences. K-12 education is
available. Employment is available. The food pantry and charities help provide
some of what is needed. Why risk paying money so the government can easily
identify you. Life is still better here than where they came from so why risk
The President didn't that from his office and not with coordination with
agencies and people interested in the system. He did it for his campaigning
process. If he really felt interested in the people, the students, the
children, he would have done that earlier in his administration and not as a
last straw to get 3 million more votes. When you do something as he
did, you leave out the administrative processes that take time and produce more
of a coordinated effort from all people involved and the agencies and
departments that will need to make rules and procedures to accomplish what had
been done. That is the reason why you don't have people with
sole power doing actions that impact on the whole society without working with
the legislative and court process to ensure that everything will work in a
program.When the President did this as he did with the Obamacare,
for the Congress to pass a bill before they read it, we end up with a law that
is still trying to be figured out 2 1/2 years later. The economy suffered since
because businesses don't understand it to make decisions for hiring but can
Most of the illegal trespassers are holding out for a better deal. Free
tuition, and/or amnesty.Most of the ones I hear about (from my kids
at the high school)don't have anywhere near the kinds of grades to get into
college either. Maybe next Obama will require public universities to waive ANY
entrance requirements whatsoever for them so college becomes a possibility.
I believe any fault is with our Government and it's leaders over many years
or even decades. Having lived in many countries, whether Europe,
Asia, Central and South America, and visiting other areas, and most states in
our country, we have so much for people to desire to want to be in this
country.I will agree there are laws and there is an order in our
country that people must obey in order to get here legally. However, for 50-60
years, our movies, news, travel agencies and other forms of media, even Mormon
missionaries have influenced how people view the United States of America. We have freedoms and chances to become more than what most people in
other countries can become and be. We have principles in our Constitution that
have been adhered to for over 200 years through a civil war, even. We have some
that would destroy those principles but our nation is a light to the world, even
in a long recession with a potential for more troubles in the future.If leaders bend rules and make exceptions to the various procedures, laws and
traditional thought processes through the courts, we still have freedoms wanted.
"The older these kids get, fewer seem to apply."Why of
course. The longer they are here illegally the more likely they are develop
criminal records -- or, they have sufficiently mastered the art of living
illegally under the radar and working the system to where they see no point in
giving up their personal information now. Especially in Sanctuary
Remember the Federal Socialized Government is suing the various states that have
immigration laws because the Federal Government doesn't enforce the laws
under this administration that are on the books. The Fast and
Furious administration won't enforce the laws that the Border Patrol are
mandated to enforce. This is why the action the President took with his
Executive Order, subverting the administrative and lawful process of coming up
with a law, was against public policy.He did it for his personal and
private gain and desire to be in the White House for another 4 years. He
didn't do it for anything of gain for our Founding Father's country,
he did it for the Obama Father of our country. He is establishing his own order
and laws through his executive orders. He is getting rid of the military
process and will use the Homeland Security and Border Patrol under Executive
Order and a lack of a budget to make his new rules. We are going
through the process of what will happen with a Morsi type of President changing
a Constitution to fit his needs and desires. Egypt was an appropriate place for
the President to apologize.
It is not easy to live in the shadows. Some of my friends that are able to go to
college go to the most prestigious colleges around. When they voted, they voted
for obama.Some of them know my story as some of my friends share the same story
too. I started going to college and started working in the fields. I would leave
work early and immediately go to class.There are some people that receive
financial aid and they spend it on beer, can you believe it ?
"Living in the shadows," I am sure is very inconvenient. Most criminals
have this same problem of having to look over their shoulder. It appears that ID
theft is not considered to be a crime for illegal aliens, but you citizens just
try it and see what happens if you get caught.
@Fitness Freak"Free tuition"In-state tuition is
considered free tuition now?
"Deferred action is not legal status."'Deferred
Action' is illegal... There are federal immigration laws on the books that
are being ignored/violated by Obama and his administration. These people are
all committing felonious acts. "It means federal immigration
authorities defer removal actions as an act of prosecutorial discretion for a
two-year period."'Deferred action' is not
prosecutorial discretion. It's a plain violation of our immigration laws
passed by the US Congress, since applications can be renewed without limit.
Employees of the Citizenship and Immigration Services should all lose their jobs
for violating federal law. Certainly, if they robbed a bank they'd be
terminated. And the president should be impeached for his part in it.The hilarity of the entire situation is that immigrants who violated laws
can't be a part of the deferred action program that is administered by...
Undocumented immigrants? If those are "undocumented immigrants," then
the crack dealers on street corners are "undocumented pharmacists."
Take the political correctness down the hall, please.