Published: Wednesday, Dec. 5 2012 1:00 p.m. MST
Any political philosophy that opposes medical care for all it's citizens
but encourages massive funding for newer, better and greater weapons and a
larger war machine has no morals. Repubs: justify military spending over
healthcare. I dare you.
Only in the Deseret News would Chuck Norris Vs. ObamaCare get included in the
group of "Top News Stories" Kudos Deseret News! Thanks so much for
ignoring the Senate vote for U.N. Disabilities Rights. Nice to see that article
nowhere in your paper. But where is my mind? I am so insensitive to the poor
totured souls at Hobby Lobby.
"Let them eat cake." The Republican prescription for health care.For some, birth control is a matter of life and death. A dear friend of
mine has a clotting condition. Her last child nearly killed her. It was
imperative that she never become pregnant again. My own daughter was suspected
of having a hydatidiform molar pregnancy. Thankfully, further tests proved that
her child was fine. But for one in every thousand women who become pregnant,
this never-viable mass of tissue can kill them, if the pregnancy is not
terminated. Follow-up treatment may include chemotherapy and the prescription
to not become pregnant for at least a year. Physical intimacy is an
important part of marriage. It is a violation of a person's right to
"life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," to deny them their right
to use the health benefits that they have earned. The employer buys a policy.
It is up to the employee to decide how to use it.
Chuck Norris doesn't choke the life out of Obamacare. Obamacare chokes out
its own life when it sees Chuck Norris coming.
Maybe he is right that there is no middle ground. It's time to move to a
national health system like the rest of the Western world. Compromise isn't
accepted by some who would rather stay in a past that doesn't work and work
to tear the nation apart. Chuck has his, millions, but for those not so
fortunate, too bad so sad. He represents the worst of this country.
While its good to know that Chuck Norris's health care needs are taken care
of, this is not true of all Americans. Hense we now have Obama Care.
Mr. Obama campaigned in 2007 and 2008 on health care reform and won; people
knew it was coming on election day 2008. If people would read, they would see
that in 2010 or 2011, Mr. Obama said states can opt out of the Affordable Care
Act, as long as they provide all the citizens health care. I'm
confident states like Massachusetts will opt out of Obama care (and yes he does
care), because everyone there is already insured or paying a fine to not have
insurance. It is conservative to stop the free riders in health care,
everyone pays now.
Obamacare is socialized medicine and the mandate also includes massive tax hikes
that all American citizens will be subjected to. It is a massive socialistic
power grab that was rammed down our throats. Even Nancy Pelosi suggested we pass
it "immediately" so we can finally find out what is in the bill. Obama is a socialist, and wants this country to practice socialism.
Socialism if a failed system - look at Europe. All of you liberal
sheep need to wake up.
Our Founding Fathers chose to accept independence from a country that squashed
people's religious freedoms and financial independence. They fought
against their homeland type of environment whether English or another taxing
authority.We prepared and fought against Communism, Marxism,
Socialism, Nazi regimes and other types of despot types of governments under
Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson
and even in Haiti with Bill Clinton who led us into wars to end all wars.
Franklin D. Roosevelt brought us the League of Nations and he and President
Truman brought us the United Nations to have other governments as a whole tell
us as the United States of America that we are wrong and have been wrong
diplomatically and militarily for over 200 years. Now, we have our own
President apologizing to the world for all our indiscriminate actions over the 2
centuries due the rich wanting to take advantage of the poor.Those
other forms of government and their medical social programs have failed. Our
Wall Street is a pretty good system but greed of those people involved with
banks, real estate and loan programs took a toll on our citizens. Pride is
probably there, also.
Sorry Chuck but you are an actor, not a politician and not someone who has done
any research beyond their own views, (whether they be right or wrong). An actor says we need to abolish it and 75% of healthcare workers say
there has to be a change, sorry but I am going with the healthcare workers who
ulike actors face and deal with the system on a daily basis.We pay
more or a higher percentage of our GDP than any other developed nation in the
world and our healthcare system is not even close to the best.Boehner who is speaker of the house in washington after the election said
Obamacare is now law. Wouldn't it be much better to use your powers of
persuasion and "kicks to the head" to help change the system to
something that will work for the citizens of the country? Even Mr.
Romney said there are parts of Obamacare that he would have kept, yet you the
actor want to throw them all out.Based upon my powers of reasoning
you are you using very little reasoning. Perhaps as an actor you need headlines
more than you want to help.
A1994Centerville, UTSo it is not ok for the insurance to pay
for contraception?But it’s ok for grandpa to gets his Viagra paid
for by taxpayers via Medicare?
Tom in CAVallejo, CAIf obamacare is socialized medicine, what
is Medicare?Are you for doing away with Medicare and Medicaid also?
I reiterate.....why would Deseret News care one iota what a washed up actor
thinks. What credentials does he have? He can afford whatever Cadillac health
plan is available.
Some Clueless, clueless people are commenting on this Chuck Norris story.First, this is Not about whether contraception or smoking pot is right or
wrong or legal or not. It is about the Government promoting communistic ideas
like forcing people (business owners) to provide, and pay for services of other
people's poor moral choices.Second, "I haven't seen the
republicans come up with anything better"....Why are we waiting for or
depending on the government to take care of our health care? This is also known
as Socialism.Mitt Romney is apparently right when he said that 40% of
Americans depend on Government to take care of them.I have an idea! How
about each of us individually, take care of our own health care coverage, and
keep government out of it.
SoCalUte,I am in favor of individuals taking care of their own
health care except there is one small problem. What do we do with those who
don't take care of their own health care and find themselves in a situation
where they or one of their children who needs a major surgery or has a serious
accident then what? Do we deny them care if they can't pay? That is the
only way to make people responsible. Being responsible is great if
there is a consequence for irresponsibility. What we currently have is not
working, and there is no consequence for lack of responsibility. I would rather
have Obamcare which will require everyone to pay something, as opposed to what
we have now which is those who have insurance pay the full bill for those who
aren't responsible and don't have coverage.
To "Fred44" you want to know what you do for somebody who doesn't
want to take care of themselves?! That is simple. You don't take care of
them.Think about that person you knew in Highschool or College who
was always dating somebody who was totally wrong for them or was leading them
down a bad path. All you can do is warn them of the consequences of their
choices, then be there to support them once they hit rock bottom and decide to
climb their way out.The same with healthcare. If somebody
doesn't want insurance, warn them, and once they finally get to a point
where their health problems give them grief, you support them and help them get
insurance and help them figure out a way to pay for their own care.If you do that, they will learn the value of health insurance. If you go with
the liberal mentality, you will end up with a healthcare system that
American business has no choice with Obamacare - it is law. America has chosen
socialism on Nov 6th and that sad choice will make us Greece in less than 5
years. Elections have consequences...remember that when you see your insurance
premiums sky rocketing over the next 4 years.... and medical care declining....
but you can feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing you are being "fair".
Chuck norris can choke the life out of obama care by himself. Why is he calling
for help now? If his tears can cure caners, it's about time he started
crying about all of this.TL;DR: Chuck doesn't need help.
Any large corporation has a responsibility to provide conventional medical care
options as required by law. Contraception and sterilization are part of that.
Fact of life. Twenty-first century modern society and all that. If the feds
required women to use contraception or be sterilized, I can see their point!
Otherwise, it is they who are imposing their beliefs/values on others (employees
who have no choice but to take Hobby Lobby's subpar insurance). Sorry
kids! Moreover, if you are anti-abortion then take up the flag of contraception!
Access to contraception has been proven over and over again to decrease the
abortion rate. Put your efforts into something that actually makes a difference,
Chuck! Less access to contraception = more abortions. Oh! And the
morning after pill is NOT an abortifacient. Anyone who says otherwise is not
a:1)doctor2)scientist3)objective reader of science
literatureThese pills:1)thicken cervical mucus and thus
prevent sperm motility2)delay ovulationThere is NO (none, nada,
zero, zilch) evidence that they:1) prevent a fertilized egg from
implanting in the uterus.Hooray no abortion! Please join me singing
the praises of contraceptives of all types as they will finally vanquish
elective abortions forever!
Obamacare has an opt-out provision, able to be used by any state that comes up
with their own system that covers at least as many at no more expensive a cost.
So far only Vermont has gone that route. Looks like conservative states really
can't do better, otherwise they could be opting out right now.
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