Published: Wednesday, Dec. 5 2012 1:00 p.m. MST
Chuck can kick the tail out of superman.
So contraception is now murder, our country and freedom are under attack,
we’re at a tipping point, and our country as we know it may be lost
forever if we don’t change the course in which our country is headed?I'd give Norris the benefit of calling him as a pessimist if he
sounded a bit more rational.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Fundamental principles of the 'separation of church and state' mandate
is to allow religious people to practice their religion without obstruction from
the government, as long as the practice of religion does not break the law.
Surely you can see how mandating people to do something that is against their
religion is an infringement on that basic rule of law. If a religion decides to
call contraception 'murder', how does the practice of that tenet
violate the law? It does not. The legal definition of murder can remain in
place without interference with religion. But in Obama's case, he wishes
to impose action on the part of Americans who, by religious definitions, are not
allowed to participate in such action. For example, I will not contribute to
the United Way, because they support things I find objectionable. That's my
freedom and right. If Obama requires me, by law, to contribute to the United
Way, he has crossed the line. That's not hard to follow, is it?
@Craig Clark"So contraception is now murder" The
contraceptive mandate not only includes contraception but also sterilization and
abortifacient drugs, commonly known as “The Morning After Pill”.Some religions have objections to contraception alone (forcing a
Catholic owned institutions to violate their conscience is like forcing the
Human Rights Campaign to pay for ex-gay therapy), but the bigger issue for many
people is post fertilization destruction. This alone would not be so concerning
to many people, however faux-choice zealots have already pushed for laws in many
states to eliminate the Conscience Clause that allows those who morally do not
want to participate in an abortion, either directly or indirectly, to opt out.
Eliminating such clauses requires those morally objecting to abortion to
never-the-less dispense drugs or engage in the action if they are a pharmacist,
doctor, etc. (or face disciplinary action or quit their jobs) regardless of
their CHOICE. Faux-choice zealots do not realize that choice, by
definition, must include the right to say no and that NO actually means NO.If you read non-partisan news, you would know this
Obama better watch out since "There used to be a street named Chuck Norris,
but it was changed because nobody crosses Chuck Norris and lives!" :)
@Cici ManSo should we allow Rastafarians to smoke pot because their
religion believes it? If a business is owned by Jehovah's Witness's
should they mandate that non member employee's pay for any blood
transfusions they need, because the JW's don't believe in
transfusions. Or is it only when it is a mainstream christian religion that
doesn't agree with a law that we should make an exception?
"Surely you can see how mandating people to do something that is against
their religion is an infringement on that basic rule of law"Who
is mandating Anyone to do Anything?No one is forcing anyone to take
a contraception.No one is forcing anyone to have an abortion."For example, I will not contribute to the United Way, because they
support things I find objectionable. That's my freedom and right"And no one is forcing you to.Although, you may also find war
objectionable. You may find public school objectionable. You may find
building a Dam on a river objectionable.Good luck trying to keep
from contributing to those things.You are correct. It is not that
hard to follow
Noodlekaboodle: according to the logic of Cici, Restafarians would not be able
to smoke pot since that is breaking the law while saying believing that
contraception is murder does not break the law therefore should be allowed. I am
going to be slammed for this next part, and I don't know JW's doctrine
well enough to know, but if the owner would feel like he is breaking a law of
God by allowing that he should have a way to not directly participate on behalf
of his employees. Who are we to dictate what other people believe, or to condemn
them (even if according to our beliefs it is in their own minds)
You've never had to worry about the cost of your medical care, have ya,
If you want contraception reach in your wallet and pay for it and stop your
Chuck looks like he had one to many botox treatments. He should stay with the B
movies and out of poliitcs. He is way out of his league.
And people should care what Chuck Norris thinks-why?
Chuck Norris had a chance to "choke the life out of ObamaCare" by
supporting Mitt Romney. He didn't. He supported anyone and everyone but
"Mitt the Mormon". He lost his only real chance to do what he is NOW
proposing back in the GOP primaries.It was how much they attempted
to bloody Mitt Romney the first half of the year that prevented him from
prevailing against the anti-Colonial Communist, Barrack Hussein OBAMA in
November. None of Norris' martial arts will change anything now!
If I ever worked for an employer who is Jehovah's Witness it would most
certainly be with the understanding that I cannot expect the health insurance he
buys for me to cover blood transfusions or anything else he finds objectionable.
If I work for him, he gets to decide what kind of insurance I have if any. If I
do not like it, I can work for somebody else, or I can start a business that
competes against his.
Chuck is a true American. To bad, he wasn't on stage with Clint
Eastwood.Tired of people whining of things they don't have, and
how unfair working people are. In a free country, we all have a fair shot of
What about the freedom of employees working for non-profit, religious affiliated
hospitals? Do we believe in individual freedoms or freedom of religious
authorities to impose their belief systems on non-member? If Catholics
don't want to get contraception, they are free to do so. If employees wish
to get contraception through a Church's insurance company, they should be
allowed to do so. It's all about control. Religious institutions are in
many respect the enemy of individual freedom. Isn't it ironic that
religious authorities are complaining about a lack of freedom to control people.
I'm also agains Murder, but not so much the contraceptive kind as the war
kind. Can I be exempt from paying taxes on military spending due to religious
Chuck Norris is right. Unfortunately, there are many in this country without
the discernment to see it. The recent election is ample proof of that.
I'm not crazy about Obamacare, but I doubt Chuck Norris has a better plan.
Health care in America is a disaster, and the Republicans have done their best
to avoid tackling it in any meaningful way.
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