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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 4 2012 7:55 p.m. MST

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anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

@Kim
@VST
@JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt

Again, the statement put out by the Public Affairs Office IS NOT an official statement of the First Presidency. Show me the signatures.

The Public Affairs Department can REFER to official First Presidency statements all day long. But it has no right to set forth NEW doctrine, policy, nor posture (support for the Compact, for example). Only the First Presidency has that right (Handbook, 21.1.29), and then only with the unanimous approval of the Twelve (D&C 107). This means that the Presiding Bishop does not have the right to speak for the church either.

"Stop with all the semantics because this didn't get posted without President Monson looking at it."

Pure speculation. But even if he did, express INVOCATION of the authority of the First Presidency still is required. Yes, invocation of authority matters. Notice that we don't dispense with invocation of authority in the case of blessings, prayers, and ordinances, either. Nor do we dispense with signatures in society. Many documents are regarded as void without them.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@anti-liar,

OK, here is the Official Statement, issued on 10 June 2011, by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on immigration. It can be viewed, in its entirety, on the Church's Official (Mormon Newsroom) website. In that Official Statement, it underscores the following points, and I quote:

"The LDS Church discourages its members of the Mormon faith from entering any country without legal documentation.

"The underlying concern of immigration issues 'is how we treat each other as children of God.' Immigration issues need to be resolved at the federal government level.

"State legislation that focuses only on enforcement 'is likely to fall short of the high moral standard of treating each other as children of God.'

"The church supports efforts 'where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship.'"

I find these points in the Official Statement to be consistent with the Church's original support (on 11 November 2010) of the Utah Compact as being a responsible approach to the urgent challenge of immigration reform.

Global Warner
Provo, UT

I’m grateful for the many Utahns who are thoughtful, rational, and see the vital need for a coherent and ethical approach to immigration reform. I don’t think the Utah Compact goes far enough in protecting the rights and well-being of our brothers and sisters from Latin America and elsewhere. Having labored among them in Utah to help create jobs, healthcare, education, and other services over the decades, I know most are good people who simply seek a better life for their families. Utah and Arizona critics who attack and/or disparage them are mostly out of touch with reality. As their comments suggest, they are seemingly racists and/or show evidence of being afraid. I salute the LDS Church, other religious leaders, and responsible public officials who believe immigrants are our brothers and sisters. The beauty of a democracy is that the majority can vote and lobby for their values. In Utah in particular, and America in general, we need a more Christian society. It’s clear that many faithful believers will help us make the Gospel a deeper and more meaningful part of our culture as we treat the “least among us” better.

Wm. VanderWerff
Draper, Utah

When ever I see all of our so called leaders come together and endorse a document like the Utah-Compact, I can't help being suspicious of their, self promoting, motives. The Utah-Compact has no standing in law, is full of high sounding fluff, and fails to suggest solutions. Our founders were not so vague. They were precise and to the point. Their arguments and declarations took positions that jeopardized their lives and fortunes. More importantly the were meaningful and fruitful.

A sovereign nation's most defining aspect is citizenship and border definition. The failure on the part of our leadership to uphold both values is criminal and traitorous. That said, we are where we are. The remedies taken should not punish the children for the sins of their parents. Deporting those, who have lived their formative years here, brought here by law breaking parents, is a violation of common sense and righteous principles; however, any path to citizenship for the children should include rigorous indoctrination of our constitutional principals and the history of it's founding. The parents should not be given citizenship but should have probationary visas without recourse to full citizenship or the right to vote.

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