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Published: Saturday, Dec. 1 2012 6:50 p.m. MST

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NeilT
Clearfield, UT

Conservatives want to build even more prisons and put more people behind bars. Just lock em up and throw away the key has always been the conservative mantra. Never mind the cost to society. Rehabilitation, forget it. Waste of time. Doesn't work. It does work with voters.

On the other hand
Riverdale, MD

I wouldn't presume to speak for conservatives or liberals, but if there are ways to help prisoners learn responsibility and good citizenship so that they change their lives and contribute positively to society, I'm all in favor of that.

teleste
Austin, TX

@NeilT

Liberals on the other hand prefer that instead of punishing crime we just make everything legal. Pot anyone? Never mind the cost to society.

One thing I don't like about the article is the comparison of the US prison system to the likes of other countries' prison systems. In the United States, even criminals get their due process and at least in New Jersey have more spent on them ($44,000) than Ivy League students at Princeton do. Prisoners in Cuba, South Africa, and Russia do not have this. It is a ridiculous comparison.

Also, I've lived abroad a great deal of time. Years in Brazil, the Middle East, and Europe. In some of the place I have lived the norm is for murderers to walk as opposed to be locked up...THANK HEAVEN that is not the case in the USA.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Great story. It is the only bread we will buy. Smith's and other stores better wake up because Costco is the only one who sells Dave's Killer Bread.

NeilT and there goes another liberal throwing false labels around. I am a conservative and most of the conservatives I know, and they are in the 10's of thousands, want the criminals sent to prison, but we want them rehabilitated so they do no return. We also want ways to keep them from going there in the first place.

NeilT should I make a false presumption and say you don't want them to suffer the consequences of their actions, just slap their hands and say, "now don't do that again." then send them on their way. Am I drawing the correct assumption from your desire to denigrate conservatives?

Mike777
Springfield, OR

I am a devout Mormon; just thought I would make that clear from the start. Now my opinion on the surge in prison populations. This all started with the misguided "War on drugs" which caused lawmakers to go into a frenzy and make a huge deal out of marijuana. You want to see a reduction in prison populations? Legalize marijuana now! If we even go by the worse case scenario marijuana causes very little harm to the huser while arresting him/her destroys their life and might cause them to have to spend time in jail. I would also like to see the government stop awarding private businesses contracts to run prisons for profit as this encourages a sort of indentured servitute and actually encourages a system of putting non-violent and more compliant offenders in jail (easier to get work from them) and let child molesters and violent criminals go free.

Cabinfever
Las Vegas, NV

Wynnco sells this and its awesome (and healthy) bread.

Michael_Haskins
Salt Lake, UT

Vengeange is Mine - sayeth "Christians"? - "Never mind the cost to society"? of legal pot? what about the extreme cost to soceity of imprisoning a larger percentage of the population than ANY other country? do you think that the extremely expensive "punishment" helps? Look at recivivism! - it seems it would be FAR mor efficient economically, as well as effective, to focus more on education and retraining than on punishment. - certainly there are those who the public needs to be protected from, but imprisoning someone who uses a plant? Nature gave us plants. Destroy someone who makes an error's possibility to be an asset to society, at great expense to society, who then have to support them. Change the focus, people! This IS NOT WORKING!

Nan BW
ELder, CO

The proof is in the pudding. Favorable results have happened from programs such as the HOPE in Hawaii. As a conservative, I am totally in favor of spending the money to help people change (when they are ready to do so). In the long run it is a pratical and humane solution. I am glad this article appeared in the DN and I hope we can see it become a widespread movement.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

It appears that most of you commentors know little if anything about the penal system or those who reside there. Most states have programs for training with the intent to prepare prisoners for life on the outside. However, most states allow prisoners to choose whether or not to participate. Most are not inclined to do so. Unfortunately the same attitudes that exist in gangs also exist in prisons. If you decide to change you are ridiculed by your peers. Many of those who particpate in such programs do so only to get their sentences reduced for what is called "good behavior".

If you think this is a conservative v. liberal problem are equally uninformed. I think that we all hope anyone who spends time incarcerated will choose to see the error of their ways and choose to change. That is the point of punishment and accountability. Very few people contribute to society from behind bars.

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Good bread, better story and outcome for this guy!

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

First they want to legalize marijuana. Now they are implying that meth is no big deal.
I suppose if someone were coming at you the wrong way on I-15 you might wish he were in jail.
But if he's selling you a loaf of bread, that's different.
I feel really warm and fuzzy after reading this article. Now what? Release all the prisoners serving drug-related sentences?

John Brown 1000
Laketown, UT

Thank you, Deseret News, for searching out great stories of hope like this!

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