Was this done out of numbers or sympathy? I look at Canyon View, and I dont
think they have any problems numbers wise. They are right in the middlge of 3A.
Why are we moving them with smaller schools? I know they are terrible at
football, but we cant just move teams around because they are bad. We should
only move them because they are low on numbers.
MantiCoug, it makes sense, you were talking rivalry and geography, not just
size, I can get behind that. And as Eagle Dad said, congrats on this past
NH transplant- Ya, the travel aspect is actually one of the bright spots of
this move for Wasatch. Not having to drive to the Basin several times a year
will be way nice. It's exciting to play the bigger teams and see how you
compare. I think we'll be competitive in some sports and not so in others.
But time will tell. Already our football schedule is about 100 times better than
the last few years. Better in terms of opponent, maybe not better in terms of
win/loss, but again the challenge is what is exciting.I'm a
little surprised that Juan Diego isn't going to play 4A football. With the
talent they are able to bring in every year, and the fact that 3AA is smaller
now than it was, I would have thought that their coaches would have lobbied
pretty hard to play up to 4A.
MantiCoug - Manti will be playing with their peers. They are not going to be
playing the St. George schools in football. If I read the article right the 3A
consists of: Carbon, Emery, Grantsville, Judge, Morgan and Union in one region
and Canyon View, Delta, Juab, Manti, North Sanpete and Richfield in the other.
The St. George schools are all in the 3AA division.I think that puts
Manti playing with schools closer to their size rather than playing schools like
N. Sevier, Gunnison, N, Summit, and Millard.BTW, congrats on 2 in a row
state football titles in 2A. Looking at your competition next year I really
think you can win it in 3A as well (and you can win it knowing you beat North
Sanpete and Juab).
Wasatch is thrilled to be in the new 4A region! Park City has been a great
rival and many Wasatch teams will continue to play them in non-region contests.
Giving up a great rivalry for region play is sad, however, the rivalry will
continue as there is a lot of respect for each other. I hope Orem and Provo
still continue to play each other. Play each other once in non-region and then
you have the chance to renew the rivalry in post season when that second game
will be really significant.Maybe the Utah County schools will take
Wasatch too lightly. Don't underestimate the Wasps! Several of their
programs already play 4A and 5A schools in non-region contests. The coaches
know many Utah County coaches since a lot of their kids are playing with Utah
County kids on outside of school teams. Wasps don't whine, they STING!
Can't wait for the excitement and short travel plans!
@Rural sport fan - No no no, that's not what I mean. The small schools
(Duchesne, Rich, Milford, etc...) should stay in 1A. Maybe even some of the
really small 2A schools (North Sevier, Parawon) should go to 1A at least for
football.But Manti and Juab and North Sanpete and Richfield etc,
should all be in 2A along with Millard, San Juan, North and South Summitt, etc.
I think Manti or Juab is closer in competitiveness and fairness to Beaver or
Millard than they are to Pine View and Dixie. If Manti wins a state championship
I want it to be over our peers. Rural schools. I'm glad they won the 2A
championship this year, but I'd rather win it knowing that we beat North
Sanpete and Juab. The 3A and 3AA classification is silly. They could leave the
way it was, but move the rural schools to 2A.And I know Manti can
compete in 3A. Don't forget that Manti tied for the region championship
their first year in 3A.Did that make sense?
I love the new regions in 5A. Jordan still stays in tact woth Alta which all of
us still consider them rivals. yes Alta even if you dont like it a lot of people
conisde Jordan and Alta rivals even if you guys dont and even if the football
side has been way lopsided over the years. Bingham added to the region will
prove that Jordan finally belongs with the big football schools such as Bingham.
Gonna love Bigham coming to Jordan every other year now. A solid region which
will be super compettive. Jordan, Alta, Bingham, even Brighton produces good
football teams each year. Hillcrest back to 5A though? I thought they complained
they werent competitive enough, but whatever...
Orem Parent, you used to be in a Region with Alta, Hillcrest, Brighton and
Jordan back in the 90's. Besides, you can still schedule those
"Rivalry" games as preseason games.Payson and Spanish Fork
used to be in a Region with Cedar and Dixie a while ago too.
UTOutlaw...you may be right about blowouts, but now that the classes are
theoretically more balanced, maybe the first round games will actually be more
competitive?MantiCoug...you just ignored about 20 rural schools that
are FAR smaller than Manti, do you really want to pound on Milford and the other
rural 1A schools by making them go 2A? Or did you mean that you don't
think Manti can compete in small 3A football, and you want to go back to 2A? BTW...in past years, Duchesne has beat 8 of the 2A teams, 3 of the
teams in the new 3A, and one of the 3AA teams...so you should be fine in 3A.
For football, this was a bad move in my opinion. Depending on what happens with
play-offs, we could have more blow outs than before because it looks like more
teams will qualify. Before 5A, 4A and 3A each got 16 teams in to the play-offs
with 2A getting 12 and 1A getting 8. If 3AA and below follow precedence, they
will each get 12 teams in except 8 for 1A. 8 more playoff teams will result in
60 point blow outs, but as long as we give every team an opportunity to compete,
right? Big mistake in my opinion adding the 6th classification
Just for clarification. Viewmont is back in Region 1 so that region did not stay
the same as was stated in the article. If you want the real skinny, just go to
the UHSAA website were the proposed regions are posted.
@GoForItIn football I think the four teams that will battle for the
region title and playoff spots are Timpview, Maple Mountain, Spanish Fork, and
Wasatch. The other schools seem to be having a down spell. This
will be a pretty fun baseball region with SF, MM and Salem.Wrestling
will be Maple Mountain of course, but Salem and Wasatch are in the hunt for
@Sounds right...I know that Payson only plays in that division in football. It
still seems like a gigantic waste of money to have a school from Cedar City not
be in the Southern Utah region for football. The gas budget alone will be huge!
The UHSAA worries too much about everyone winning and not enough about natural
rivalries. Canyon View and Cedar won't even be in the same classification
for football! Canyon View needs to man up and play the schools in their area.
All the rural schools (Juab, Manti, North Sanpete, Delta, Gunnison,
Millard, Beaver, etc...) should be in ONE CLASSIFICATION! 2A.
goforit- you are probably right about Wasatch. I think they will hold their own
in wrestling, but outside of that it's going to take awhile to build to the
4A level. I mean, I can't even imagine them playing Timpview in football.
Football and Baseball are the two sports they have never won a title in, and I
think that the odds just got worse in those two sports. I'm glad they left
PC alone, although I wonder how Judge went 4A but still plays 3A football? This
new region for Wasatch will be alot better for travel though.3A
wrestling just got wide open. Delta moves down, Wasatch moves up, it's
anyone's title now. I guess Uintah would be the natural favorite, but Bear
River, Morgan, Hurricane now have a chance.
Manti Coug... Payson is with Juab North Sanpete Richfield and carbon in all
sports but football. Because they are in the Big Classification for football
they play in the south but not in all sports. Canyon view is in the smaller 3A
football and the only team from down south in it therefore they must play with
the North Schools. Overall I thought the re alighnment went very well and most
schools seem very satisfied.
Wasatch will get killed in football in 4A, and only be competitive in a few
sports. I think some other schools in 3A are probably biggerbut always whine
about competing against bigger schools. Wasatch never complains about who they
have to play and will eventually catch up to most 4A schools in sports. The next
few years will be ugly for Wasatch sports teams, with very few even qualifying
for State Tournaments.
Payson in with St George schools and Canyon View in with schools much farther
north? Stupid! Put Payson with the Sanpete schools and Juab, and leave Canyon
View with the southern schools. So silly. So much gas money!
Orem got the shaft on this one. Killed the rivalry between Orem and Provo
schools. Now we get to look forward to playing someone called Corner Canyon and
SPA instead of the schools literally two miles away in Timpview and Provo? Yeah
no controversy there. This stinks.