County clerk 'upset' about claims she didn't allow scrutiny of ballots
lost in DCYou certainly were "lost" in seeing what I meant
by my post. I am not in the 4th District and happy that I didn't have to
choose between those two. I never talked about Gore/Bush, gerrymandering,
uncounted ballots, etc, only that it is over. My point is that the
election has been declared and so now let's move on. Enough angst
Dear Lost in DC: I love you. It's so great to have a fellow poster on
here who also actually understands economics and knows something about
If a race is within 1,000 votes, I promise, Republicans will never win
it--George Bush being a rare exception. It is interesting that the county that
isn't allowing the ballots to be viewed is the one where the clerk is a
FTthanks for reiterating my point.Matheson CHOSE to run where
he ran. Gerrymandering has nothing to do with it.the congressional
districts are not defined geographically? You mean the 1st district can have
people from Beaver, Blanding, Park City, SLC, Prove, Ogden, Wendover, &
Snowville, and the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th can too?Yes, let's NOT
forget under bush that our deficits were counted in the billions rather than the
trillions - how our unemployment rate was between 4.2 and 7.4 percent - how we
had a LOWER casualty rate in Afghanistan - how consumer confidence and economic
growth were high.Let me give you an economics lesson - We also
need to remember how barney frank sent our economy over a cliff by requiring
major secondary housing market makers abandon lending standards, causing the
collateral for all the derivative products to be worthless. we see the dem
reaction to it, dudd-frank, did NOT end too-big-to-fail, but further encouraged
it while limiting credit availability, further dampening our economy.And the civics lesson - the state legislature sets the congressional
districts, dems cannot control the state legislature and therefore are not the
driving force in district boundaries. get over it.
Lost in DC-Here is a civics lesson for you. The congressional districts
were re-drawn to represent the demographics of the state instead of a specific
geography. That was the GOP's explanation not any Democrats. When an
existing district is redrawn by the party in power and it favors that party it
is called gerrymandering. It's a fact, Matheson's district was
redrawn by the GOP. So much so, he decided to run in another district. Lucky
for him he ran against Mia instead of Chris Stewart as he would have lost.
Nothing for me to get over. I care not for either candidate as they both
represent the problem(s) not the solution. Let us not forget how the
Republicans ran our country when they controlled congress and the White House
just a few years back.
Why would the clerk be so concerned about making sure everything is laid out in
plain sight? If she, and everyone else that wanted Mr Matheson to win is sure he
did, fairly and correctly, then open the boxes and let the Repugs knock
themselves out verifying the votes.
Subtitle on article sure changed quickly from "Clerk fires back" to
"Clerk upset!"Sherrie Swensen is about as polemical as
Winnie the Poo. Shame on Thomas Wright for his spurious implications! Leave it
to the Des News to attempt to embroil her in Thomas Wright's
"scandal!" The Utah establishment won't rest until they obliterate
any vestige of an alternate approach to public policy. Whatever happened to
"There must needs be opposition in all things?" Utahns are complicit
when they say nothing about gerrymandering and continue to vote one way.Corruption in the Governor's Mansion, secrecy prevails, the fox
guards the hen house in the State Auditor's Office and Utahns tell
themselves "all is well, all is well."
Ernest, toosmart(really??), Impartial, I M LDS2, two for flinching, Moderate,
scwells, imautefan, Al Franken, MN senate race, required numerous
recounts. Where was your condemnation then over his refusing to accept defeat?
Amazing how each recount of disputed and provisional (questionable) ballots
brought him closer until the DEM sec. of state declared him victor.Al Gore, Florida, 2000, where was your condemnation then over his refusing to
accept defeat? Geez, your side was complaining about that for at least 10
years!OH, it’s OK when it’s a DEM, but heaven forbid
ANYONE should EVER question an all-benevolent and omniscient dem!FT,The claim of gerrymandering is bogus. Matheson CHOSE to run the in
4th district, rather than the district in which he lives. your side continually
LOSES state house and senate races - get over it!
I can see why the Utah GOP is upset and trying to find victory in this. They
spent a lot of time gerrymandering the congressional districts in this state and
want some kind of payoff for their hard work. They'll tweak the district
boundaries a little bit better next time around to ensure this never happens
The Utah Republican party needs to reflect on their loss and figure out how they
can perform better in 2014, not waste any more time with "more
questions", of which they won't publicly state what those questions
Stunning losses like Mia's hurt for awhile. They'll be a rematch in
2014 but Mitt won't be on the ballot and the GOP won't be able to
gerry mander the district once again. Maybe 1/4 of Utah's seat are meant
to be out of the GOP's control. But Jim votes alongside the GOP more times
than naught so it's really an image more than substacne issue.
I really don't think it matters what I say on this comment mechanism,
because the monitor is evidently on vacation or something, so I don't get
an "accepted" or "denied" message either way and my comments
also don't appear--so I guess it's a waste of time to mess with it.
Democrats ask questions in extremely close elections too. Remember?
@ IM LDS 2: "Rove still thinks Mitt can win Ohio" . . . hilarious
comment, my friend!I was watching that whole scenario play out on
Fox and what a comedy show that was. Rove just couldn't fathom that Obama
was winning in ALL of the swing states except North Carolina. His desperation
was downright pathetic.State of Utah Republicans: Can't you
stand to let even one Utah Democrat hold public office? Please, just let it
it's over let it go
That seems to the new Republican line... "we have questions".They
had questions about Libya.They met with Ambassador Rice. Their post
meeting comment "we still have questions".They meet with the CIA
director. Their post meeting comment "we still have questions".Quit telling the press "we have questions". ASK your questions.Just like the campaign when they said "we have solutions", but
then never presented solutions!
Rove still thinks Mitt can win Ohio.The Utah GOP still thinks Love
can win in Utah.Mitt still thinks he is the greatest thing since
sliced bread.What is with Republicans? Denial is their permanent
residence, and I don't mean the (Islamic-controlled) river in Egypt!
Jeez Utah GOP give it a rest. You lost. How about you pony up 14,000 to pay to
look at those ballots? You know, just like you charged the Dems to look at your
gerrymandering hijinks in Love's district.
It's over----Mia lost.
The GOP is just angry that they did everything possible to silence the voice of
40% of Utahns who are moderate to liberal, and it didn't work.It
serves them right.
Like fast & furious, time will pass, and this whole thing will blow over.