I guess we will never know what would have happened if James Lark had played
more for the Cougars. However, one can surely surmise that when Riley Nelson
was playing hurt and less than 100% effective that it would have been a smart
coaching decision to put James in. Not having all the information that Coach
Mendenhal has when making the decisions puts me at a disadvantage in doing any
second guessing I suppose. That said, if winning football games is a high
priority for BYU then it appears that the Coach needs to make better decisions.
Lets hope some lessons have been learned. Importantly, I hope we can keep all
this in the perspecive for what is supposedly is - a game!
no controversy at all. Fire Bronco and Doman for coaching incompotency.
I've watched Lark play for many years as he was on a rival team in SG. I
remember distinctly one night watching him in a high school game and saying to
my friend, "He looks way too comfortable out on the football field!"
His presence as a high school QB was unlike any I have been around. He has
always had a natural feel at the QB position. I was excited for him when he
selected BYU, the QB factory.I've read the posts and all the
comparing of Nelson to Lark. What bothers me is that Lark is being compared to
Nelson as they both are now. I wonder what James would look like had he started
every game this year and many games last year and had all the practice and
attention that Nelson has had? He had a GREAT foundation for building a
traditional BYU QB upon, which is why they originally recruited him. Bronco
always talks about Tradition, why did the coaching staff get away from the
effective coaching traditions of the past? The factory should have went Beck,
Hall, Lark, Heaps, Hill. Stop throwing grit in the machine!
No way we would have won 5 games with Lark at QB.
Bronco needs to go. He has no commitment whatsoever to BYU as a passing team.
Bronco says,"I believe Riley Nelson earned the chance to be our
starting quarterback. And then again, when Riley started to get banged up, I
believed we would have more continuity by having the same style of system and
similar plays that Taysom [Hill] and Riley could RUN." Note the
emphasis on "RUN." Where is the commitment to BYU tradition & legacy
of the aerial attack system, and exciting style of a passing game that has
characterized BYU at its finest? Why not find the best QB for the passing system
(which appears to have been Lark) instead of turning the entire system upside
down for a single player? That is what you call letting the tail wag the dog.
His own words state that is why he chose Taysom ... to find the most gritty
athletes and build the team around them. That is flawed thinking and will carry
over to next year. GET RID of BRONCO and BRANDON!
BYUfaninWashStI'm as disappointed as the next Y fan but who
will we get to coach the team if Bronco leaves? Why are we ignoring the horrific
job the line has done protecting the QB and opening up the run? Reynolds has
been at BYU since the Edwards era. Games are won and lost on the line. We have
no schemes to bust open plays. Why isn't anyone talking about
Ty Detmer as OC? The guy lost his fortune to a swindler and now coaches HS
football in Texas. He needs a real job and is one of the best offensive minds to
ever suit up at BYU.
BYU will keep Bronco and Doman. Everyone should stop trying to throw them under
the bus. They have done a great job and had a winning record. We are going to a
bowl game while the Utes sit home! We are grateful that James Lark
had "his" game at BYU. He was composed at the end of the game and not
throwing darts as many on this blog are doing. What is done is done. Why rehash
it? It won't change anything. I think Lark has as good a chance to start in
the bowl game as Nelson. Let the coaches decide. And, enjoy the game!BYU also has a great basketball program. It's great to gravitate from
football to basketball. Coach Rose is also an outstanding coach. And, the BYU
fan base is all over the place, wherever they go. Even in New Mexico the
announcers said that half of the 14,000 in attendance at the football game
Saturday were loyal BYU fans. Plus these games on BYUtv are broadcast all over
the world. How sweet it is. Enjoy!Proud to be a BYU alum. Go
Let me come clear on this one.Bronco Mendenhall will not be fired
nor should he be.The mission of BYU football is different and I
think that is a good thing. It is not about winning games, though Bronco has
one of the highest winning percentages of any active coach, it doesn't seem
to matter much to many BYU football fans.Notwithstanding the
incident at the Mexican restaurant, BYU's players under Mendenhall have
been stellar citizens representing the program and the school and the church
well. This is viewed as much more important by the BYU leadership and church
leadership than whether BYU beats Notre Dame or San Jose State. This might be
hard for some BYU fans to handle but this is the case.Now if BYU
players were continually getting in trouble, graduating in lower and lower
percentages, and the coaches were breaking NCAA rules, then this would cause a
coaching change.It's not that continually less than stellar
performance will not cause a BYU coach to be let go as volleyball in baseball in
recent years have shown. But again Mendenhall wins games and his team is
generally good citizens.
Hire Gary Andersen as head coach.
Really...hey, here's a message from earth...Lark is a tremendous
quarterback, but he played against New Mexico State. Not exactly Notre Dame,
folks. I am amazed at some of the people who post here calling for Bronco's
job. He was the coach during the Beck and Hall years, guy. I hope he
doesn't get tired of fair-weather fans and leave on his own. Seriously, get
SportsFannHe's already tired of fair weather fans, and his
attitude towards them ticks them off even further.But hey, remember
the war cry, "Anyone but Anae!" Now, it's Anae's replacement
AND the head coach. Many of these fans DESERVE several 5-7 seasons to help them
regain their perspective.
The problem is that the coaching staff played an injured QB when they had
talented backups. One talented QB injured with a miscommunicated play. The
players are inexperienced young men working hard to represent BYU. The coaches
are highly paid professionals who will be held accountable for their decisions.
Wait for Holmoe to make adjustments (private and/or public) after the bowl game.
There can only be one criterion for who to play at QB: Who performs best in
games?Forget practice. Forget anything else. PERFORMANCE.For the past couple of years, the BYU coaches have been BLIND.
I have no doubt Lark is a great player but let's see how he does against
someone other than the Nazarene Sisters of the Poor before we heap on the
platitudes. And "yes", Bronco needs to go. Why? 1- He continues to make
repeated bad coaching decisions... some of them so boneheaded it defies logic,
2- He'll never admit when he is wrong, 3- He's boring as boring gets.
I'd rather listen to an old guy whistle through his nose set to background
noise of a dentist drill than listen to Bronco's pre or post game comments.
WANTED: One Head Football CoachNo experience required. Must be LDS.
Critical: Must be willing to fire current OC and hire new OC with true passing
game credentials, who will ensure exciting & high flying air attack. Will
treat fans, supporters, and alumni with utmost respect. Football success must be
top priority. Benefits include good pay, national TV exposure, greatest fan
support in the nation, and divine assistance if you do not behave piously.
Please apply as soon as possible!
NMSU isn't exactly Alabama, but you can't help but wonder "what
Absolutely in agreement with Oatmeal and Meckofahess here- playing Riley so much
when he was injured was a mistake, and giving Riley more recovery time and Lark
more minutes and experience would have benefited both of them as well as the
team's overall performance.Riley is quite a player, and
I'm not joining those who criticize the coaches for having him as the
starter when he was healthy. But he's not some kind of superhuman
who's better than everyone else even when he's badly injured, and he
doesn't have any super mutant healing powers either.
I remember the day when playing hard each week against whatever opponent is on
the schedule was commendable. Could you imagine being a fan of New Mexico State
or Idaho, where 10,000 is a good crowd? I, as a long-time Cougar fan, and 30
year season ticket holder, love the opportunity to see BYU play teams like Notre
Dame, Texas, Wisconsin, etc. They compete well against all of them, with few
exceptions. I am saddened that Utah feels the need to schedule a patsy, instead
of a tough traditional rival. We should enjoy the opportunity to watch a class
program compete every Saturday each fall. A bowl game is a reward for the team
and the fans for a successful season, which isn't measured by just wins and
losses. The work and commitment of the players and coaches should be
appreciated and not constantly second-guessed and criticized. Do you think
there are any of them who isn't doing the best they can? Finally, for all
of those calling for Bronco's removal...... Be careful what you wish for.
During the "slow start," Lark was 100% in completions. The slow start
was play calling, lack of a running game, a missed field goal and under
performing defense. My next note is the observation that about 20%
of Hoffman's 1,000 yards came from completions by James Lark. We can spend the rest of our lives wondering what the year would have been
without Bronco's man crush on Riley Nelson. P.S. Nelson is not
to blame. He's a stud and did everything he was asked to do to the best of
his ability and beyond. Which leaves us with the question, "What if,"
and "What now?" I just hope we do not preordain another QB, i.e. Taysom
Hill. Not that he may not be the guy, but be careful because Ammon Olsen throws
the ball like Lark.
Speaking of "what if's." There is one more QB that BYU kicked
down the road to SUU, Brad Sorenson. talk about old school, 6'5, 240 lbs,
rocket for an arm, BYU prototype. Look at the records he broke and awards Brad
has won at the FCS level with an average o-line and average receivers. I have
watched this kid play, there is a reason he is the 10th ranked QB in this years
draft. It certainly seems that the BYU coaching staff cannot see a good thing
when it is right under their nose...both Lark and Sorenson would have won many
more games. As a side note, BYU also lost the top deep snapper in the country
to S. Utah and also from Pine View. Doesn't seem that important, however,
when you break down Special Teams this year, SUU was a leader the Big Sky in
Punting and Field Goals which Coach Ed Lamb attributes to this true Freshman
long snapper and the fact that he didn't miss a single snap or have a
blocked punt or kick all season. Both the QB and spec. Teams situation need a
real hard look!
Please, anyone would have looked great against New Mexico State. Look at
reality, Bronco has been promoted to his level of incompetence and Doman was the
worst of all possible in-bred choices. If there isn't better coaching
talent in the LDS community then it's time for BYU to demolish the stadium
and build a new building for the MTC. Lark played well against the worst team
in the WAC. Give Riley an offensive line and he would have beaten Notre Dame.
BYU does well against poor teams no matter who plays. They don't have a
head coach they have an over-paid defensive coordinator. The offensive
coordinator was the worst of all choices, he can't see good talent and
can't call plays. NMSU was 1 and 9 going in; its only victory was against
a Big Sky opponent. If the coaches knew anything Lark would have played against
Weber, Nelson and Hill would not be injured and BYU would have had a respectable
record--but the coaching staff can't coach a dog to scratch a flea. Losing
to Utah looks worse and continues to prove that BYU can't win against a
Lark was spectacular, but I recognize it was against a sub par team. But then
again, it was his first real game. Sure he's had some mop up duty, but
this was the first time he really got to throw the ball.I have no
problem that Nelson beat Lark for the starting job, but here's the three
things I do have a problem with.1. I have a problem with the
coaches leaving Nelson in against Utah, BSU and SJSU. He was in pain and
completely ineffective. Lark or Hill would have been able to win these three
games.2. I have a problem with an OC who promised a pro style
offense and runs the QB 15 - 20 times a game. If Doman and Dupaix want to coach
a QB running attack, they can go to Air Force, Navy or Georgia Tech. We will
always have injured QBs if we run them into the ground.3. I have a
problem with how much latitude Bronco gives Doman. We really don't have a
head coach. Bronco is the DC, and a good one. Doman is the OC and can do as he
pleases on the offensive side.
I feel for Lark and his family. To be treated this poorly by these coaches is
shameful. Lark is a class guy. I hope some NFL scout saw this game and Lark gets
an invite to NFL camp. There is a problem with the football coaches at BYU and
I hope it is dealt with.
This was the first game where BYU looked like BYU. Who cares if it's New
Mexico. Riley played pretty against Notre Dame, however, consistently he's
been mediocre. Anyone can be up for one big game.Riley is summed up
in 4-5 record, 17 TDs and 16 interceptions. Coach Mendenhall needs
to become the head coach again. Fire Doman and bring in Ty Detmer. Both Gary
Andersen and Ed Lamb at SUU did the same thing in becoming the HC and stopped
being the DC. It created a rift in the team as a perception that he was biased
toward the defense. Who should become DC?Riley Nelson was perceived
to be dual threat QB- NOT an RGIII or Chuckie Keaton= I agree with the article
from earlier in the week- he should have been on Defense. Maybe have some of the
influence of Manti Teo', then maybe not.
The Story of James Lark is only the most recent confirmation of Bronco's
inferior coaching abilities. It's not Riley's fault that he's not
the best quarterback on the roster. It's Bronco's fault that he has
played him all season anyway, simply because he likes his "grittiness."
Bronco's a great guy, that much is beyond dispute. But he is a bad coach.
We don't hire coaches, or make contracts with ESPN, based on a metric
suitable for hiring a bishop or stake president. Winning games is low on
Bronco's priority list (by his own admission, football comes FIFTH). If BYU
is serious about moving to the next level, it's time to hire a new coach
and start building a powerful independent program. The schedule next year is the
most difficult in the program's history. If BYU continues down the current
path they will be lucky to make a bowl game. Sign the petition to restore BYU
football's proud tradition on Facebook: search for and "like" the
"Dump Bronco" page.
I have been on the Riley bandwagon since high school, and the anti lark
bandwagon just as long (he was a cross town rival) but I wish Lark had started
all year, or at least Riley's unhealthy games. What I don't get is
last year when Heaps was bad, Lark was #2 on the depth chart but they jumped
Riley up because they wanted a change on offense. Then this year when Riley got
hurt they went to Hill because he was a lot like Riley. I'm not saying
playing Hill was a bad choice, I just don't follow the logic and I feel for
James. I'm really hoping he somehow gets a look at the next level, but I
highly doubt it. Maybe he could go the Kurt Warner route and play in a
different league and then try and go NFL?
Many head coaches call the offense, it doesn't mean they favor the offense
necessarily over the defense. It is their skill set, it is what they are good
at. I mean Brian Kelly calls the plays for ND and they do pretty good. Their
defense is real good, they don't feel ignored, slighted etc. I've seen
plenty of head coaches call the defense as well and be real successful. Some
like Urban Meyer even call the Special Teams plays. Some like Lavell delegated
it all to the assistants. There's many ways to coach and be successful. I
think BYU has improved overall since Mendenhall took over the defense. They won
10 games last year and the offense has scored points. I would be concerned if
Mendenhall wanted to do the offense. I've seen many coaches, especially
defensive oriented coaches do this, and not do it well but felt that was what
head coaches did. Again, I think people are overreacting...
No one knows how good Lark really is. New Mexico State is no barometer.I'm sticking with Bronco and trust his judgment (Except the 2-point
conversion at Boise).I hope Riley is ready for the bowl game. I
think if Lark starts, we'll get a true barometer of his skills. And it
might be ugly.Time will tell, but I'm comfortable with Riley as
Riley is not a good quarterback. Bronco chose to play Riley anyway. There were
other viable options at quarterback . Riley will soon be gone and bronco should
go with him!
@ eagle:"The mission of BYU football is different and I think that is
a good thing. It is not about winning games ...." Really? Give
me a break! That is ridiculous, if not shallow and ill-informed. If anything,
the "mission" you're alluding to can and will be accomplished more
by winning than losing - and not winning by any means either. You can STILL
accomplish that mission and winning with integrity at the same time. Until I
see the fans, coaches, etc., running on the field - or on the court for that
matter - to celebrate a loss, I am not going to believe and accept a single iota
of what you're saying.
Milkshake, I have to agree with you. The problem at BYU isn't the talent,
it's how they utilize it. The result will be talented QB's will choose
a school where they can shine. BYU better address the offensive problems this
offseason. Otherwise, what kid, or should I say, what responsible, informed
parent, will want their child going to a program where talent is chewed up and
spit out without. If they don't fix it quick, it will be hard to imagine a
Jake Heaps level recruit taking a risk on BYU.
Y Grad/ Y Dad,A five and seven season is possible next season.Eagle,While I agree that LDS Church leaders place a high
premium on high character athletes in their programs, it would be interesting to
see what happens if the Cougs suffer multiple five win seasons. I'm
willing to bet that there would be a shake-up in the athletic department and
Bronco would be headed down the road. I don't think that any of us can
speak absolutes about how church leaders measure success within a program. That
is unless your a member of the Quorum of Twelve, then disregard prior sentence.
NMSU HC DeWayne Walker knew the playbook for stopping the one dimensional, Riley
NElson-led BYU offense. Just stack the box. It took Doman about a quarter and a
half to shift gears and remember that he had a real QB now taking snaps and he
could open up the play book. Once he did BYU started clicking.Bronco
talks a lot about "trust". I think he forgets it is a 2 way street and
if he's going to "expect" it from his players he needs to earn and
be deserving of their trust in return. Holding deserving players down for no
reason other than you're playing favoritism with "special" players
is an abuse of that trust, the trust that players have in him, their parents
have in him when they allow their sons to commit to him and to the fanbase that
supports the program and helps to pay his salary. The contempt he shows to fans
and others who express their displeasure when he abuses that trust is a disgrace
and tarnishes the program and is something the AD needs to address with him in
the off-season as an expection of his job.
Riey's lack of improvement year to year and Bronco's stubborn,
delusional continuation of playing him regardless of the consequences is
aggravating, to say the least, but the greatest single offensive weakness on
this team is the O-line. They couldn't even clear the way for the running
game against NMSU !! They are a real dark cloud on this team's horizon.
@Y Grad Y DadYou got it right.Though Bronco comes across
smug to me as a Ute fan (and to some BYU fans as well), who are you going to
replace him with? I always tell my Cougar friends that Bronco is the
right BYU coach. He makes mistakes, but he cares about the program and he honors
it's honor code (which the school expects more than ever after some
scandals under the Crowton and even LaVell era). Bronco recruits
unique guys that even Andy Reid and Detmer would have a hard time winning with
(less athletic character guys). BYU gets exposed sometimes (San Jose State) but
they still played well enough to beat Boise State and Notre Dame. They
didn't, and a coaching decision might have been the difference. But close
games are like that. Some years the karma ball bounces positive, others
negative. As for Lark, I expected him to play really good (not that
good though) against a weak New Mexico State team. I also said the what ifs
would come after.And then there is Anae. Man, I told you guys two
years ago that those who begged him gone would regret it.
Wanting Bronco gone is just like a small number of Ute fans wanting Whittingham
gone. Who are you going to replace them with who loves the state of Utah, will
want to stick around when offered other good jobs, can fit into the recruiting
culture, and win games? Both are hard to replace. Both Utah and BYU
were down in a big way this year, and the coaches decisions on their QBs the
last two years has been part of that. But Jon Hays and James Lark probably
weren't the special QB to produce the magical season anyway. Utah won with Alex Smith and Brian Johnson. It's not a coincidence.
It's the QB position. BYU has always won when they had a great
QB as well. Their history there speaks for itself. Think about it. The years
they lost, rather under LaVell, Crowton and now Bronco, is when they have had
guys like Walsh, Feterik, Fowler, the carousel of Crowton QBs, Jake Heaps
(highly recruited or not), and now Riley Nelson. Flipside, BYU won
big with Gifford Nielson, Marc Wilson, McMahon, Young, Boscoe, Detmer,
Sarkisian, and recently Max Hall. Coincidence? No!
I am sure Lark wanted more from his career at BYU, but he stuck it out, and we
can be happy for him that he shined in the end.
Bronco was hired as a quick solution when BYU alum Kyle Whittingham chose to
stay at Utah, and he has done better than anyone could have expected. That
being said, he should get one chance to fix the current mess by bringing in a
new OC and admitting his mistakes in the handling of the offense generally and
the quarterback position in particular. If he's not willing to do that
then he needs to go now. His biggest failing is placing loyalty to his
struggling buddies,Doman and Riley, over the good of the team. As to
the patently absurd notion that BYU football is not about winning, when the
Y's board of trustees signed off on pursuing football independence, the
head of that board, Thomas S. Monson, whose parting admonition was, "Now go
win!"The clear mission of this program is not accomplished by
dominating poor teams, losing or struggling against WAC level opponents and
never winning vs. a good team.
RE BYUFaninWashSt,"No experience required". Really?? We seem
to want to get rid of coaches who don't perform and hire new coaches - any
new coaches - regardless of whether they are proven. Doman had no experience.
You can't just through guys out before you have a credible plan for what
you will do next.
Thank you SportsFann for speaking it as it is. What mentality we have as
Bronco was all over Heaps for his entitlement mentality - the more that comes
out from this team, the more I believe that Bronco himself, has embedded an
entitlement mentality within his own football program and it's hurt his
team beyond repair at this point.
I wanted to write a small complain about why Lark hasn't been playing. But
I haven't seen anything from him written here complaining about his lack of
playing time. So I'll just keep my complain to myself.
I think a lot of Bronco/Doman/Nelson apologists are missing the point here.
It's not a matter about the type of defense, Notre Dame vs New Mexico St.
It has everything to do with the type of throws each QB has made. For example.
How many times has Nelson overthrown a reciever? Lark over threw a few balls,
because the guy was covered. Nelson would air it out throwing it short for an
interception. And how about a wide open reciever? Nelson missed one completely
in the Notre Dame game that would have went for a touchdown. Lark hit Hoffman IN
STRIDE during the New Mexico St. game for a touchdown. I won't go into
Nelson's one hop throws or throws so low receivers get hurt trying to catch
them. The point is, Lark's throws hit a moving receiver. Nelson hopes his
receivers hit his errent throw. I'm not worried anymore about what might
have been as much as I'm worried about December 20th. Let's see the
better Senior QB start. Let's see Lark show us what he can do against a
I am so tired about hearing how Riley battles... I don't care how hard you
battle, if you are hurt you are hurt... for the very first time I am questioning
the BYU coaches' choices...
A dominant defense wins championships and very easily this year BYU could be
playing for it's second National Championship. It's time for Alumni,
Booster Club Memebers, season ticket holder and Cougar Nation to pressure Holmoe
to either relegate Mendenhall to Defensive Coach or fire him along with Doman.
A head coach has to be in control and play to win not keep their favorites in
regardless. Every year (unrealistically) we all want our Cougars to go
undefeated. This year was different and could have very easily turned out that
I think BYU fans got spoiled by all those years when they had one great
quarterbacks after another. Now they get impatient with anyone who doesn't
throw for five-hundred yards on day one. It didn't take long for Jake Heaps
to go from being "the next Jimmer" to being ridden out of town on a
rail. Riley has played his heart out for the fans and look how they treat him.
BYU has the coaching that can get them back on top, but it will take time and
patience to develop future quarterbacks. I'm not sure if the fans will
permit that though.
tlaulu: You wont see Lark complain about lack of playing time. He is a team
player that always did what was asked of him. Unfortunately not much was asked
@Parkite 1Come on. "A second national championship"? Sure,
BYU had a solid defense and a weak offense. But Lark or Taysom Hill wasn't
going to win you a national championship. Don't forget how San Jose lit up
the Cougar defense though. What would Alabama do the Cougars on both sides of
the ball? Destroy the Y. It's not just a QB problem. BYU's
offensive line was offensive this year. BYU played Notre Dame to the wire. And
that was impressive in South Bend. The Irish were lucky to win that game. The
Cougars outplayed Notre Dame I thought. The Irish might have taken BYU lightly
by resting their starting QB one more game than they should have. The Irish won
a handful of games on the last play while playing sloppy much of the time. It
was their year. BYU had some heartbreakers and it's easy to
think another QB would have made all the difference. Lark finally got a chance
to shine and I am happy for him. But it was New Mexico State. Riley beat Idaho
just as soundly. The big games are where BYU struggles. Outside the four
patsies, BYU was 3-5.
Riley Nelson has great leadership skills..
Nelson-Lark, vice-versa. Ever heard of Bledsoe-Brady,Tom Brady #199 in the draft
and the rest is history. Maybe Bronco had better take a look see and realize
that Neson cost the Y 4 of the 5 games. Oh and no kicking game.
Let's not forget that this has turned out to be one of the toughest
schedules BYU has ever played. Reminder: 5 Cougar opponents will end the season
in the BCS top 25, and BYU went 1-4 against those teams. Each one of those
games (plus the Utah game) was in play up to the very end, other than OSU who
pulled away in the 4th. This feels like a team on the verge, not a team waiting
to implode.1. Take advantage of more experience on the O-line.2. Fix the kicking game.3. Keep the passing game developing. I think
Doman sees what we see and has no desire to lose his 1st and 2nd string QBs ever
Another sure sign of the bad coaching this year at BYU. We really do need to
dump Doman and it looks like Coach Reid may be leaving the Eagles; if Coach
Mindenhall wants to be a Defense Coordinator, then hire coach Andy Reid as the
head coach and let Bronco work the best Defence in the country. .
gdog3finallyCome on. "A second national championship"? First
I suspect you are a Ute fan if so go bowling with your team at the local
alley!Now without doubt had Mendenhall/Doman prepared the team for
the noisy environment at Rice-Eccles the miscues would not have happened Cougars
would have easily won, against Bosie State tie it and let the defense continue
to dominant and in the final minutes or overtime Cougars would have won. Then
instead of letting your inexperienced back-up QB incorrectly get in the QB draw
formation call the time-out, result no injury to Taysom Hill. BYU probably
would have won the Oregon State game had Hill been healthy and maybe if Lark had
come in, same with Notre Dame. The Cougars woudl have beat San Jose St. had
Mendehall pulled Nelson. So yes undefeated and playing Alabama or Georgia for
the Championship but due to poor decision making and terrible head coaching a
very disappointing year for fans and a stellar defense!
Most teams run balanced attacks. The great teams set the offense with a good
running game, Williams is the answer to the(at 17 years old)run. Bronco is just
fine as a head coach. Steve Young once said he became a real good quarterback
once he learned to think pass first. I'm no coach, but it seems Nelson had
problems reading defences. Think the Y is great, glad when I came here my wife
was from Orem-Provo area instead of SLC.
@ BYU alumI am a BYU fan, but let's not laugh at Utah for
sitting home. BYU is playing in a meaningless bowl game and the Utes played a
much tougher schedule than BYU. Put this year's BYU team in the PAC-12,
and BYU would be sitting at home too. Don't act like playing in the
Poinsettia Bowl is some big accomplishment.The Utes and Cougars have
the same issue right now, QB. They are pretty equal, Utah probably being the
better team right now. I wish Lark would have been given a shot. I wonder why
he never did anything about it though. If he can really play, I wonder why he
did not transfer. Maybe getting his education at BYU and such was what was most
important to him.I am happy for Lark for having a start and a good
game. I would like to see him get the nod for the bowl game too.
Of course Bronco likes Riley and we all do because he's gutsy! And
that's what I'd expect from a defensive minded coach like Bronco. But,
the head coach needs to be more offensive minded and pick the quarterback based
on how well he can move the ball--in BYU's case that means through the air
consistently. Unfortunately, Riley can't throw the ball consistently well!
He overthrows open receivers on critical plays and can't throw a long pass
without arcing it like a rainbow that can easily be picked off. What's
more, after last week's play, James Lark has earned the right to start the
bowl game--just like Riley earned his right to start early in his career.
Spirals, no pick 6's, 3rd down conversions, passes where receivers have a
good chance to catch them. hmmm. didn't know BYU had that.
@eastcoastcougNo experience necessary ... a little facetious.
However, a head coach should be looking at driving a consistent & strong
overall vision and direction for the team. LaVell drove that amazing aerial
vision with many different OC's, even though LaVell's own background
was defense. I think BYU would be years ahead and better off to hire a head
coach like Ty Detmer, Steve Young, or even a relative unknown, as long as they
have an unshakably strong passing based vision they can drive to any OC that
spends some time at BYU. Get QBs and receivers that will hitch their wagon to
that vision and start having some memorable seasons once again. Head coach
doesn't have to call all the plays or know every nuance of the game ...
just drive the right vision consistently and recruit and bring in assistant
coaches that can further that vision, not detract from it. Unfortunately, our
current coaches don't even have the right vision. They are like the wind.
Better off with someone that has less experience, but has the right vision and
commitment to make it succeed.
@jazzdazzle "...the utes played a much tougher schedule?" Are you
kidding me? Did the U play the current #1 team in the nation to a 3 pt loss?
BYU also played BSU, OSU and USU who were all ranked when we played them, or are
ranked at some point. I'm not a stat guru, but I think BYU has played more
ranked teams that the U so your comment has no merit.
Bronco has the long term picture in mind- as an organizational genius (just ask
him) he knows that by beating sub .500 teams each year he can achieve 7 or so
wins- and then occasionally he can win 10- of course in all of this he will only
beat decent to good teams about 2 out of 10 times- just look at the last 4 years
if you do not think this- but with no name teams on the schedule just enough
weeks each year- he has a winning record and all is well (well next year might
be a problem)- perhaps he is a genius after all
Henry DrummondWith the stable of excellent quarterbacks BYU had
availabe this season, there's no excuse for BYU starting a quarterback who
couldn't throw a decent pass. Riley is a half-back or free safety playing
quarterback. He would have been fine as a situational quarterback, coming in on
3rd and 3 as a triple option threat, but expecting Riley to execute a highly
effecient passing attack was a big mistake.
@Pavalova"Did the U play the current #1 team in the nation to a
3 pt loss? BYU also played BSU, OSU and USU who were all ranked when we played
them, or are ranked at some point. I'm not a stat guru, but I think BYU has
played more ranked teams that the U so your comment has no merit."_______If you're going to tell someone their comment has no
merit then you ought to know what you're talking about. Using your own
logic ...UTAH strength of schedule rank: 26BYU strength of
schedule rank: 57Utah opponents ranked at some point during the
season: 8BYU opponents ranked at some point during the season: 4Try again.
I have to say "eagle" is dead on with his assessment of the coaching
situation at BYU. While I agree that Bronco hasn't always made the best
coaching decisions, what he gives the players and program is more than winning
and losing. He has set a tone of good at BYU, the kids love to play for him,
respect him, and have learned more about life than just what playing the game to
win at all costs would do.I think Lark would've been a better choice
for the team, but because I can't be at every practice I don't
understand all of the reasons behind his decisions.Besides, if Bronco was
fired who would take his place? There really aren't many good men to fill
his shoes and have the success he's had, and that's what BYU requires
of their coaches.
Come one everyone. This was NMST not Boise, ND or Utah. While I do like Lark and
think he should have been given a chance, he basically put those numbers up
against a D2 school.
Bronco and Doman have devasted the quarterback position for three years. We had
excellent quarterbacks Brad Sorenson and James Lark. They were never used.
Bronco's and Doman's record of mistakes requires that they be replaced
with those capable of making obvious, correct decisions. Bronco is a fine
defensive co-ordinator. He does not have the good judgment required of a head
coach. Doman does not have the skills required of a competent OC. Riley never
had the skills necessary for a Division One quarterback. Each has character,but
each has limited talent. Its time to make a change. Three years of
underperformance is enough. We certainly do not need a fourth.
For you Riley backers, keep this in mind. On Riley's best days he is not
capable of making most of the throws that are required by a Cougar QB. Riley is
not accurate nor strong enough to hit the quick slant or quick out. He is also
incapable of accurately throwing the deep ball. Granted New Mexico State is not
Notre Dame but neither was SJSU, Idaho nor, for that matter, Boise State.Bronco has more problems than not playing Lark. The kicking game has been a
disaster for the most part. The Cougars give kickers full rides and don't
get a consistent kicking performance, meanwhile Utah gets better kickers that
are walkons. There is a disconnect, either their talent is overrated or the
kickers are poorly coached. It's been several years since the Cougars have
had a solid kicking game.
Lark proved he deserved more of an opportunity than he was given. Nelson is a
Tim Tebow type QB that can sometimes have success in college programs. But great
QB's, and BYU has had their share, means being able to throw the football
in a timely and accurate way. Nelson simply does not have the natural ability to
throw the football, while Lark does.And before the BYU/Utah trolls
start ranting, I'm not a BYU hater, nor a blind Utah fan, the U has our own
set of issues. My daughter currently attends BYU. I believe BYU has had
tremendous recruiting success, and BYU coaching has not taken advantage of the
talent. I wish Lark would have attended the U - he would have had a huge season
this year. Lark's a good kid who has always been able to throw the ball,
for years, and his ability will never be realized, even if he starts in the bowl
What a quandary for Bronco! If he starts Lark against SDSU and he plays any
where close to his only start, Bronco's effigy will be burned. If he
doesn't start him, he will forever be questioned. Start Lark and let the
chips fall where they may.
Ok, everyone, to be fair, since some people can't get past the numbers (you
can see my earlier post), let's have a look at comparable numbers.
Everyone is saying NMST was at most an FCS team, let's compare
Nelson's numbers against Weber St. to Lark's numbers against
NMST...Nelson vs Weber18 of 29 for 244 yards - 1 TD, 1 INT QB rating - 137.2Lark vs NMST.34 of 50 for 384 yars - 6 TD,
0 INTQB rating - 172.1So...who's the better QB?
I just don't believe that a hurt Riley was still better than a healthy
Lark. I like Riley and what he brings to the team, but no other Division 1
coach is going to play a QB with a broken back. Bronco and Doman made a mistake
this year, but will not admit it. We have had three disappointing years of BYU
football. They have next year to right the ship or we start calling for their
“which QB will be the starter when BYU (7-5) plays in the Poinsettia Bowl
on Dec. 20 in San Diego?After the Cougars' 50-14 victory over
New Mexico State last Saturday, coach Bronco Mendenhall wasn't ready to
answer that."It hasn't been decided," he said. "In
my opinion, Riley is still our starting quarterback at this point. “Really Coach???? Are you still in denial??? Do you still have no
remorse??? Is your head stillburied in the sand? What grade do you give
yourself for decision making?Did you do right running our 5 star QB
out of BYU in favor of a no star Nelson Riley?Did you do right sitting
Lark on the bench for six seasons less mission time?Did you do right not
giving Muns a single play in all the years he has been with us?Did you do
right in calling for the game losing 2 point PAT over a sure thing over time
kick ?Is your thinking still correct in believing that Riley gives
us the best chance of winning the next game vs. SDS?How would you
grade yourself as a decision maker?
LaVell was successful because he was a good manager of his team and his
assistant coaches. Bronco apparantly doesn't have that trait. He needs to
find a good defensive coordinator and stay out of his way. If he can't do
that, then he needs to step down as head coach, stay as defensive coordinator
and let Lance Reynolds take over. Bronco's focus needs to be the whole
team. He's apparently not getting good input from Doman and his focus is
too much on the defense. Bronco is a defensive wizard. That part of BYU's
success he can attribute to himself. But he needs to see the bigger picture.What would be cool is if Lark got a sniff from the pros and had a
successful pro career. He was as cool as a cucumber on Saturday.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.... senseless conjecture.
"Utah opponents ranked at some point during the season: 8BYU opponents
ranked at some point during the season: 4Try again."How about we go by a more appropriate measure of strength such as ranked now
which eliminates any preseason bias from the equation?Utah - 3,
didn't beat anyBYU - 5, beat oneEven better, is half the
WAC teams Ute fans crucify BYU for playing are ranked - It's going to be a
long offseason for you son!
@ PavalovaDon't forget I am a BYU fan. Just trying to be
realistic about our season.BYU's schedule:Washington StateWeber StateUtahBoise StateHawaiiUtah StateOregon StateNotre DameGeorgia TechIdahoSan Jose StateNew Mexico StateUtah's scheduleN. ColoradoUtah StateBYUArizona StateUSCUCLAOregon StateCaliforniaWashington StateWashingtonArizonaColoradoSo I don't care how "close"
they played Notre Dame, they lost. No consolation prizes for "coming
close." Boise is not the Boise of the past, they sucked this year and you
know it. We beat USU at home (I am also a USU fan) Utah lost on the road at
USU. Every team BYU played should have been a convincing win except Notre Dame,
Utah, USU and Oregon. I am hesitant to put USU on that list because BYU should
beat USU at home.Utah played N. Colorado, Colorado, California and
Washington State that were cream puffs. If you compare the rest of the
difficulty of schedule, yes, Utah had a Slightly tougher schedule. Come on
Boise and San Jose are not very good, they are not in the company of USC, UCLA,
I agree with "eagle" (11/25, 7:56p.m.) that BYU's mission for the
football program is different than at other universities BUT the football
program is not subsidized by the Church. It is paid for through the football
program itself (i.e, ticket sales, TV contracts and the like). If you take away
a winning program the TV contracts and ticket sales evaporate in a hurry and so
does the "exposure" that the University leadership sought so hard for in
going Independent and getting the ESPN contract. Winning games is
the key to the sustainability of a program that can get the exposure that the
university desires. With that said, I'm not ready to see Bronco fired or
leave as some have suggested but the debate concerning the QB decision making
(and other decisions) is necessary and will hopefully bring about some changes
that will result in a more-winning program.
motorbikeSOS doesn't tell the whole story since it doesn't
indicate how good or how bad individual opponents were. LOL at you "ranked
at some point" spin, but since end of season rankings are the only rankings
that matter, here are some much more relevant rankings.BYU opponents
CURRENTLY ranked in the BCS Top 25:#1 Notre Dame (lost by 3)#15 Oregon State (lost by 18)#20 Boise State (lost by 1)#24 Utah
State (beat by 3)#25 San Jose State (lost by 6)Also, Georgia
Tech (beat by 24) is playing in the ACC championship game and, with a win, will
be playing in a BCS bowl.Utah opponents CURRENTLY ranked in the BCS
Top 25:#15 Oregon State (lost by 14)#16 UCLA (lost by 7)#24 Utah State (lost by 7)BYU's worst loss was Utah's
only decent win!Your turn...
Much ado about nothing. I am glad that Lark finally got his moment
in the spotlight, that he stuck it out, that he has a quality BYU education to
boot. He will do well I am sure.Second guessing what has happened
over the BYU QB issues for these past few years is futile. Whether
it's Riley or Lark at the Poinsettia Bowl makes no difference to me,
it's one more game of BYU football to watch and that has got to be
infinitely better than blubbering about a lost season and not seeing a post
season for your team... regardless of how insignificant the bowl game is. There are far too many bowl games anyway. They are for the most part
meaningless but nonetheless... we love our teams and our extended seasons.
MotortrikeYour SOS means nothing. Your win/loss column does as does
your 9th place in the PAC12.BYU fans have no axe to grind about
scheduling comparisons, Utes schedule was a weak one in comparison to the
competition in the conference AND BYU's was something cobbled together at
short notice.BYU barely lost games to the Utes, BSU and ND. It
happens. BYU beat USU, Utes didn't. Pretty miserable seasons for both
teams if you ask me but in the end SOS means nothing. It's the scoreboard
when you're talking about qualifying for these lesser / insignificant bowl
games.BYU goes and U don't. So please, no whining about
'tough' competition and SOS.U guys lost to a 10 loss
Colorado team last year and barely squeaked by this year. Last year the Utes
could have been playing in a conference championship game. Utes blew it and are
inconsistent.Same goes for BYU.
who cares about 6 Touchdown passes and almost 400 yards passing... riley has
great leadership skills..
Ok, let Riley start, since he's the god of the team this year; but then put
in Lark after Nelson's first play--and BYU will win the game. If Nelson
plays the whole game, we'll be in a dog fight and Lark will have to rescue
us; but wait, Lark can't go in because Nelson wants to keep playing.
Bronco Mendenhall is a great Defensive Coach. I have observed that, for
the most part, those who are tasked with preserving and defending rarely have
the ability to be offensive or provide the vision and direction to lead an
organization to its potential. We are seeing just that with Bronco as a head
Coach. His propensity to protect and defend inhibits his ability to risk, adapt
and make critical changes. For several years his QB choices/lack of choice
has caused apprehension and confusion for the team. This has also lead fans
and media to question various decisions. Simply put, we all are struggling to
make sense of many of Bronco’s offensive decisions, which only make sense
if you look at them from a defensive perspective. If BYU really intends to
be a well-rounded and winning football team and as much as I respect and like
Bronco, it is time to make a head coach change.
Parkite,Don't get too hyped up about BYU's defense. Yes,
they had an exceptional defensive line and linebacker core, but as SJSU and
other teams aptly demonstrated, our defensive backs were as weak as ever. Shades
of Brian Logan. You remember that guy? I'm sure he holds the record for
PI's for never looking back. And then he would mount a guy after the pass
and ride him in to the end zone. I give full props to our run defense, but it
would be a travesty to lump our pass defense in with them.
Four reasons BYU is a coaching trainwreck:1. cupboard bare at o-line
and QB2. O-line absolutely unprepared to play at Rice-Eccles3. 2 QBS
suffer injuries from reckless play4. Entire team allowed to suffer w/QB at
helm incapable of spreading the ball
As anti Nelson as I have been guys that are calling for Bronco to be fired are
crazy. Like it or not guys, Bronco is by far the best coach for the job. If and
when Bronco leaves it will be on his own terms. Some of you might think I'm
nuts for saying this but I think Brandon Doman will be a good coach as well.
Some of the play calling might be within criticism, but for the most part, look
who he has to call plays for. Riley Nelson isn't just part of the problem,
Riley is THE problem. He's been the problem the past three years, he will
be the problem until this season is over. Just wait until next year, honestly,
when Brandon Doman actually has a QB that he can call actual QB plays for.
It's a shame that next yer we will likely only be returning 3 starters on
defense. What a complete waste. Good for Lark that there is more that's
important to him in life than football. I can only imagine how miserable he
would feel if that was all he had in his life.
Lark threw no picks. Enough said.
@sammygI liked your comments (pretty accurate). BYU's schedule is challenge for Holmoe. Utah's schedule isn't a
world beater. I just think Utah's is barely better. BYU's
top two opponents (Notre Dame/Boise State) are better than Utah's top two
(USC and UCLA). Oregon State nixed (common opponent). Notre Dame = creme brulee.
Boise State? Not as good as they have been, but USC was overhyped as well. From there, Utah beats BYU and BYU beat Utah State, who beat Utah. All
three games instate could have gone either way. All three went 1-1 (could have
been 2-0 or 0-2). Moving on, both beat Washington State. Utah beat
them by more, and lost to Oregon State by less.BYU's toughest
opponents were nail biters, where Utah lost more convincingly. California vs. Georgia Tech; advantage GT. BYU's bottom four
is where we differ. Utah: WAZU is bad (common opponent again),
Colorado is awful and Utah played Northern Colorado. Those last two aren't
four teams though.Colorado is terrible but not an automatic win
(kind of like WAZU beating Washington). Idaho, Weber State, Hawaii, and New
Mexico State only beat each other (5-37; Big Sky/WAC combined).
@Parkite I understand your frustration with BYU's tough losses
and yes I am a Ute fan (no secret). I DON'T hate BYU or anything, I just
think your comments about a national championship if Hill or Lark played makes
you sound delusional. Ask your fellow Cougar fans on this one. Being a Ute
doesn't make me irrational. Claiming a national championship from a would
coulda shoulda thing where the stars are aligned is grasping at straws to say
the least. Forget just the QB issue, BYU had holes despite the strong defense
they had in most games. Their kicking game was as bad as can be. The QBs lavked
the talent. Yes, Taysom Hill is an athletic youngster, but he has along ways to
go to run an offense against solid opponents. Wait and see next year. BYU's
offensive line is very average ans their defensive line lacks depth. I think you
found something in your freshman RB though.Anyway, there is no need
to send me bowling at the local bowling alley.
@Y grad Y DadI think you will do better than your gloomy 5-7 take
next year. Yes the schedule is better, but it's not like BYU doesn't
have a chance in the majority of those games. I like your 2013 schedule if it
holds up (teams not backing out). It looks as if you will avoid playing four
gimmes, but afew of your bigger school opponents like Virginia, Georgia Tech,
and Houston are all very beatable. Hawaii will be a win, as will Middle
Tennessee State in Provo. You have Boist State at home as well (good chance at a
win and revenge). Wisconsin are big boys, but they are usually up and down.
Notre dame is a huge challenge, but ya'll are thrilled with that game if
the Irish don't back out. From there you have Utah, Utah State, and Texas.
Those are tough games but winnable. it will be interesting to see how Texas does
at LES. They are a huge name like Notre Dame, but like USC, Texas is often
overhyped. I think BYU goes 7-5, but maybe better if Taysom Hill gets healthy,
matures, and is used right within the offense.
I for one am glad the season is over and Riley will be gone. He has great
potential but does not get the team concept and thinks he needs to win every
game by himself, even injured. He make terrible decisions when pressured which
is why his TD and interception numbers are about the same. This isn NOT BYU
football. I wondet when Bronco will wake up and smell the roses.
Kouger:Call me naive or whatever but show me that Mendenhall
doesn't win games. Since his tenure only five other coaches in the country
have a higher winning percentage.That is called winning. By any
sane standards, not that many BYU fans are sane these days...
I was a furious as any of you when I saw a crippled Nelson losing games that
Lark might have been able to win. For me, it makes no sense to play an injured
guy when he simply can't do what is required of the position. That was the
case with Nelson from game 2. He played hurt in every game.Bronco
has to take the blame for this. Shame on him. Bad coach, bad coach. Don't
do it again.That being said, BYU can't and won't fire
Bronco. He's too good. His record is better than LaVell's. His bowl
record is much better. And his defense is as good as any in BYU history, and
probably better. And he is recruiting real athletes. These teams will get
better. And so will Bronco.I was very down on Doman, but he called a
great game with Lark. Gosh, a QB who can make the passes kind of helps.So my expectation that Bronco has learned a lesson from this season. Both
coaches will get another year. And they should.
@WON84, @Truth Machine, @sammygYou guys need some lessons in reading
comprehension ... go back and read the original comments to which I was
responding to and you should all be able to better understand why I listed the
SOS rankings and added up how many 'ranked at one point or another'
teams BYU and Utah played. Simply responding with factual information that the
original poster was pretending was in BYU's favor.Now if you
really want to get into which team is actually better, blah, blah, blah ... I
really don't care ... neither Utah or BYU were impressive this year. I do
know Utah won head to head though, and it's laughable how many of you on
these threads think BYU "should have won" when Utah had the game in
control and made several mistakes in the fourth that even made a close game
possible. But whatever, you guys will always think you should've won.
I'm just glad I can say Utah actually DID win the game. No ifs. No buts.
Fact: Lark completed 34 of 50 passes for 384 yards and SIX touchdowns, with ZERO
turnovers.Are you kidding me???This is a no-brainer:
Okay, now that we know BD is out of the picture next year and Riley...let's
have a more meaningful speculation about who will replace Doman?Ty
Detmer isn't coming back. And Steve Young won't either. Do
you think BYU will try to bring in a big name OC? If so, who?Do you think
Bronco will promote from within? Ben Cahoon is the Jerry Rice of the CFL. Could
he be moved from coaching the receivers to OC?Weigh in, what is your
speculation? Or do you already know and your staying quiet?Let's have some fun with this and stop killing the coaches and players.
Bronco is a great coach. Just look at the difference in the team last year after
taking over the job of defensive coordinator. His winning percentage speaks for
itself.Brandon Doman is an excellent QB coach but he is learning the
job of Offensive Coordinator. He made a major mistake last year by changing
everything all at one, and Bronco let him do it. Bad decision. Coach Doman
should have phased in his offensive system. Too many changes too quickly.BYU attracts many top QB's, and too many of them sit on the bench
and never get to play and develop their skills. If you play any other position
and you are #2 or #3 on the depth chart you get regular playing time. Not at
QB. Not other position needs more reps to develop and no other players, other
than the top dog, gets less playing time.Several of BYU's QBs
over the years could have played in the NFL if they only had the opportunity to
play in college. I would not go directly to BYU right out of HighSchool. Go to a
school where you are guaranteed to play, then go to BYU and play there.
Motorbikemike – I see, you were responding to a BYU fan who had indicated
a No. of teams ranked when BYU played them. Faulty given currently ranked or
ranked at the end of the season is a far better measurement regarding quality of
opponent.Utah won the game so head to head they were better. No
problem with that. Was only pointing out that Utah played 3 ranked opponents
and BYU played 5 including the potential NC. Also enjoyed that 2 of the WAC
teams Ute fans love to give BYU trouble for playing are ranked when a grand
total of 3 PAC opponents Utah faced are...
gdog3finally - Oh so close to agreeing with 100% of your post but, have to
clarify on CU not being an automatic win. Are you stating this head-to-head for
Utah as it's a rivalry game so of course it's going to be close?
I'll agree with that but, a (1-11) CU is not much better than a (1-11) NMSU
leaving the rivalry out of the discussion...
WON84Utah fans are only fooling themselves when they try to pretend
that Colorado is Utah's "new" rival. Signs that Colorado has
replaced BYU as Utah's rival.Utah fans will stop comparing
EVERYTHING Utah does with BYU.Utah fans will stop trolling EVERY BYU
article.Utah fans will stop showing ANY interest in BYU except during the
week BYU and Utah play.BYU blogs will become devoid of Utah fan
comments.Utah fans will start comparing EVERYTHING Utah does with
Colorado.Utah fans will constantly troll EVERY Colorado article.Utah
fans will become obsessed with Colorado.Colorado blogs will be constantly
spammed with Utah fan comments.The truth is, Utah fans are and
always will be obsessed with BYU, and couldn't care less about Colorado.
@phoenix:Utah fans are only fooling themselves when they try to pretend
that Colorado is Utah's "new" rival. Signs that Colorado has
replaced BYU as Utah's rival.Utah fans will stop comparing
EVERYTHING Utah does with BYU.Utah fans will stop trolling EVERY BYU
article.Utah fans will stop showing ANY interest in BYU except during the
week BYU and Utah play.BYU blogs will become devoid of Utah fan
comments.Now look below, seem familar? It should, it's one of
your many posts from the same Ute article where you once again posted the same U
vs BYU comparison you've been posting on Ute articles for months.
You just can't get us out of your head can you? That little losing
streak you've got going there must really smart. PhoenixEven with Utah's "dominance" in recent head-to-head matchups, the
Utes still fall short of BYU's overall success.Top 25
FinishesBronco 5Kyle 3Top 15 FinishesBronco 3Kyle 1Conference ChampionshipsBronco 2Kyle 1Bowl GamesBronco 8Kyle 78:21 a.m. Nov. 27, 2012Just another happy valley hypocrite.
The only what if that I am wondering about is what if bronco was fired because
of how terrible of a job he has done the past two seasons. I am sick of being
an average team and its only going to get worse with this guy. Get on Facebook
and check out the "dump bronco" page. Like the page to sign the
petition to fire Bronco.
No way Bronco lets Lark start in the bowl game. I don't think he would
even see the field if Riley broke both his legs. Letting Lark loose again would
make Bronco and Doman look bad.
I'm so tired of "what if's" and second guessing the coaches,
even when the fans have about 1% of the information the coaches have when they
make the decisions you all complain about. Here's a what if: What Riley N
had been healthy and played. What if he would have thrown 9 TDs and run for two
more? Against NMSU it could have happened. We'll never know. Great game by
Lark. But I'm sure he wouldn't have had that game against ND or any of
the other quality teams on the schedule. It is what it is. All you arm chair
coaches out there can say what you want, but unless you're actually on the
sideline, I'm not giving your comments much credibility.
here is what must happen:Bronco becomes defensive coordinator.doman
is fired.Detmer is head coach.
Re: BallplayerObviously no one is saying Lark would have led the
team to a 50-14 win over Notre Dame, but he also wouldn't have averaged 4
turnovers a game the way Nelson has. If Lark plays Notre Dame BYU likely wins
21-14 or something like that. It's impossible to know how Lark would have
played over the course of the season but I'm quite sure that he
wouldn't have made most of the dipstick decisions that Nelson has.