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Published: Saturday, Nov. 24 2012 5:25 p.m. MST

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eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

one old man,

Mitt worked with Dems in MA so there is no telling whether he would have shut out the other side.

btw, whoever said no candidate had ever run in 2 races is completely ignorant. Reagan did, Bush Sr., Al Gore, as did many others. Probably more the rule than the exception. Candidates just run twice to get their name visible...

Nancy Smith
Delta, UT

The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.
The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush ' s Fault", think about this:
January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress.
At the time:e GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush ' s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH!

SammyB
Provo, UT

Shame on you Deseret News for denying my comment that was not off topic and not in the slightest impolite. You allow multiple comments on here trashing Romney, then to deny mine? Did you not even understand my point? I was encouraging Republicans to be supportive of Romney because in fact, he would not have lost without voter fraud so it is wrong to blame to loss on him.

Get the point this time:

Many people are viciously turning against Romney because he let us down and was a loser. When in fact the election was stolen so we should be kind and supportive to a man who ran a brilliant campaign and worked harder than any candidate who ever ran.

Max
Charlotte, NC

FilmNoirFan,

You forgot to mention that all of the policy changes that brought us the financial collapse took place in the 1990s under Bill Clinton: Financial deregulation, The bail out of Long-Term Capital Management (This was unprecedented and along with deregulation created a moral hazard problem among financial institutions), reducing the underwriting standards of Fannie Mae (Fannie Mae was the epicenter of the collapse. The vast majority of sub-prime loans passed through Fannie Mae. It was Fannie Mae that recruited business partner Country Wide to join the scam. See the book Reckless Endangerment for details), and beefing up the Community Reinvestment Act.

Nancy Smith
Delta, UT

George Bush ' s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH!
Remember the day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.
The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress
So when someone tries to blame Bush..
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.

SUSAN H DEAN
MYRTLE BEACH, SC

The election is in the past; Mitt Romney did not win the Presidency. This has happened to many better men than he in the past and will happen to many in the future, should there be a future. Jack above asserts that helping people is giving them jobs, affordable health care (not mandated by government--I'm assuming like Romney suggested, they just go to the ER.)
Which is all very well if somebody can do it. I recall that Romney said he would "create" a vast number of jobs when he was President--I am wondering why, if he has that power, that he would have to wait until he was elected POTUS to do so. Might have got him some votes.

bobidaho
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Mitt lost because he has no empathy for working people. According to Romney Government largess needs to go to the job creators with lower tax rates and more ways to reduce cost of labor (read working poor). The taxpayers that pay the most by percentage really are the dual income families where both make over $100,000 per year so they pay full SS taxes and a fairly high rate of income tax. We need a moderate candidate that does not see the working poor as takers. And one that is willing to cut spending including military spending. I personally want the tax rate raised on households in my income bracket provided we also look at moving up the retirement age for healthy Americans and reduce spending accross the board. As a small business owner and "job creator" I prefer to compete with other companies that pay for employees healthcare, that pay living wages, and believe me when it makes sense to add another employee I will not care whether my marginal tax rate is 35 or 39.

Conner Johnson

Well Big-Bird still has a job, while Romney is the one who is now unemployed... Gotta love it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Romney was never beloved by the Republican Party. He only won the primaries because of the ridiculous cast of characters running.
Additionally, he was not well-liked by many Americans. I think Romney's character was revealed early, when he could not remember holding down a classmate and cutting his hair in high school. While we are all guilty of foolish youthful acts, that Romney couldn't remember or own up to committing such an act of agression revealed much. His repeated statements about 47% of Americans who don't owe federal income tax just underscored his character, as did his continual shifting on issues.

Aside from the right-winged fringe who tried mightily to paint Obama as a scarey foreigner, people liked Obama as a person. Hurricane Sandy lifted Obama's profile right before election day.

Paloma10
Ventura, CA

Why did Romney lose the election? 1. 47% comment was a real view in how he feels about the American Public, and he has comments since, still support a disdain for people who work for a living. 2. Self Deportation, well his comments self deported the chance of a white house bid. 3. it goes back to the dog, the treatment of the dog on the roof of the car was a clear signal of an uncaring, cold-hearted man, who was supported by a wife who claims that the dog "liked" it. 4. His treatment of the young man in his school, shearing his hair. I don't care that it was a "youthful" indiscretion, he knew better. And believe me, he would treat us the same way!

CabezaMan
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If you were insulted by Romney's commments then you're probably holding your hand out. You have become weak and wanting, looking for others to provide your needs and wants. Romney had a vision that never changed, in spite of MSNBC slander. That vision was to help you put your hands down, roll up your sleeves and take control of your lives. We're sliding down the slippery European slope, and Romney was our hope to turn that around.

However, I do believe the Republicans did screw up on the issue of immigration and the Hispanic vote. I've been saying this for years. We are not going to deport 12 million people. Even Libertarians have a more reasonable solution, and immigration needs to be hugely expanded in line with economic policy. Ronald Reagon understood, and so did Romney. I wish he could have articulated a more aggressive plan to win over the hearts and minds of our conservative Hispanic brothers and sisters. It's good economics, and good politics.

Although Romney wasn't the perfect "candidate," he was the quintisential man for the job.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Cabeza Man made a comment that explains EXACTLY why Romney lost: "If you were insulted by Romney's commments then you're probably holding your hand out. You have become weak and wanting, looking for others to provide your needs and wants."

To countless other Americans, not just me, that kind of thing is a blatant insult. It's an insult because I have worked hard all my life, paid my taxes (even a higher percentage as a retired teacher than Mitt paid), never asked for nor accepted a handout, and most of all, have tried in everything I do to be kind and considerate of others.

There is a very small percentage of people out there who do have their hands out. But there are also many large corporations and wealthy persons who not only have their hands out, but have the power to make sure their hands will be filled by others.

Archie1954
Vancouver, BC

I hardly think anyone should be the least bit surprised at the treatment that Romney is getting. We are talking about Republicans you know, the most selfish, regressive and self centered political party in America. If you didn't win for them then you are toast and they don't even want to mention your name. The same happened to the great incompetent, Bush. Of course in that case there was plenty of good reasons for his ostracism like 8 years of good reasons.

Clinton
Draper, UT

Some on this forums have claimed that Romney had one gaffe after another during his bid for presidency. That is nonsense. What Romney had is a national media (propaganda machine) who was willing to hide the ugly truths of their candidate (Unemployment, Benghazi, sequestration, etc.) to present him as a capable and worthy president, which he isn't. At the same time they twisted sound bites to vilify Romney. The media stirred up the useful idiots in our country against a capable man with the business and political know-how to create jobs and prosperity in our country.

Another reason Romney lost is because a large segment of our population has been brainwashed to view the federal government as the sole solution to all the problems in the world. Republicans want to help the poor, but they know that the federal government is ineffective at doing so.

Another reason is the media portrayed Romney as a liar. Liberals present this as such an important factor in their decision making, yet they conveniently ignore the numerous lies of their candidate. Isn't selective reasoning great?

Finally, Romney lost because most Americans approach their civic duties with a reality-show mentality.

MAYHEM MIKE
Salt Lake City, UT

From the article: "Jowers said it's not clear how Utahns will react to seeing how the GOP elite treated Romney. 'It's a good question,' he said when asked if some might even leave the Republican Party in protest."

Yeah, as a Romney supporter, I admit I AM bitter. . . It will be cold day in "you know where" before I vote for the likes of Gingrich or Jindal and others who have turned on their party's candidate.

Clinton
Draper, UT

@slpa1 I don't think anybody is holding out hope for a Romney ticket in 2016. I think the only hope that people have is that our current president's war upon our wallets, and the Constitution, will be unsuccessful.

My support towards Romney isn't political, but rather personal. You don't have to look any further than Huffington Post to see the ignorant, petty, sniveling, and entitled qualities of America's propaganda machine and its followers. I stand firmly against liberal argumentum ad hominem and disinformation, with regards to both Romney and the truth in general.

utahboni
Ogden, UT

Being a gracious loser is the true mark of a winner. Understanding and admitting the errors you made, makes you grow. Playing the blame game is exactly the victim mentality that the GOP proports to be against. Even before he won the primary, Romney chose to run a negative campaign against the President instead of a positive campaign of selling his vision. The very, very negative campaign caused deep divides in the nation. If Romney was a wise man he would have stayed off the national stage until those wounds were healed. Obviously he didn't.

GoldieZ
Central, UT

Romney said what others wished they could say, but they were afraid they would lose the voters. Yes, he offered jobs to those who don't want to work!

L
Central, Utah

" 4601
Salt Lake City, UT

George Romney said he was brain washed on Viet Nam - impolitic but rue. Mitt's
statement was also impolitic but also true."
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AMEN !

While there were (are) things in the Republican Party that others do not
agree with, and indeed show that with their vote, we should not blame
others for telling the truth. In doing so we only encourage others (
politicans) to tell untruths or partial truths when it seems convient.

Too bad each of us are not equiped with a little "truth meter" on our
foreheads. Some would smile at you genuinely, but others would pull
their hat down over their head and look down as the meter went from t
he green area (good) through yellow (?) and on to red (untrue).

For some people it might look like it was stuck on yellow.

Clinton
Draper, UT

@one old man

Cabeza Man is right! If you are insulted then you have convinced yourself that the federal government owes you something, and that those who are more successful than you have become so unfairly. Both are fallacies. Nobody forced you to be a teacher. Nobody prevented you from paying the $25 to create a business, produce something, and write things off on your taxes. It wasn't like you were promised wealth and fame and then somebody pulled the rug out from under you. You made a career choice and cannot condemn anybody else in the world for the results of your choice. Romney didn't write the tax code, the federal government did. If you're not happy with it, complain to them. Condemning Romney is intellectually dishonest.

There are greedy people out there, but Romney isn't one of them. He's a kind and generous individual who just happens to be successful. Greed is evil when carried out by "the rich," but it is equally evil when embraced by the poor, who think it is OK to plunder the rewards of labor from the rich as long as they can get the government to do it.

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