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Published: Thursday, Nov. 22 2012 12:25 p.m. MST

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jasonlivy
Orem, UT

I understand how internally a player may be respected. The coaches have seen things with Riley that have earned their profound respect. Those moments no doubt were special and personal.

But...as a coach your first priority is to the team. Grit is an important element of football, but it alone won't win football games.

I'm so frustrated that the coaches can't or won't see what everyone else sees...that Riley does not have the skills needed to be a D-1 quarterback. It doesn't matter that he kept getting up. In fact, there were many times I wish he would stay down.

I applaud that he keeps getting up. That will serve him the rest of his life. But...BYU needs to step it up! No more allowing players to manipulate coaches into thinking that they are more important than the rest of the team. BYU won't be a winning program unless they have the players making plays consistently every game, especially the quarterback.

All I know is this, if we continue to have lousy quarterbacks throwing interceptions to defensive linemen, we are going to be lucky to make it to the Potato Bowl.

eagle
Provo, UT

Tenn12: I don't want to disparage Lavell Edwards at all because he is a great coach. But I will probably come across as such to correct the record. But let it be known I've followed BYU football for part of five decades. Lavell wasn't perfect. If Bronco mismanaged Taysom Hill ask Glen Kozlowski how he feels about his knee injury being handled which took what I thought would be a great pro career to something substantially less. Edwards' record in bowl games is rather poor, I think he won about one-third of them. His record the last few years of his career was pretty pedestrian, he even lost to the Utes quite a number of times toward the end.

But here's the ultimate rub. I think it is unfair to expect a coach like Lavell Edwards. Even with a couple of things I pointed out above, he's a great coach. Not just a great coach but a special coach. And for Bronco to even approach or surpass in some cases suggests something. Again, people outside the BYU bubble think highly of BYU and think highly of Bronco often calling BYU's players "well coached."

eagle
Provo, UT

TroyO6:

Just because you have given BYU a lot of money or your time or emotional energy doesn't mean the players or coaches owe you anything. I pay tithing and some of it goes to BYU. I'd rather make sure the players are good citizens rather than good football players. My most disappointing BYU moment this season is what happened at the Mexican restaurant, not any loss on the field.

I figure you are a part of the problem if anything. And the way that many of these posters criticize a young man (Riley Nelson) is tiresome. Enough already. He isn't a professional athlete making millions of dollars. He has done nothing wrong but trying his best. I won't say he's the best QB ever because he isn't. In fact I hope Lark gets a shot to start, he deserves it. But I can't say what I read on these posts supposedly by BYU fans about Nelson, Doman or Mendenhall is Christlike or anything I want OUR faith to represent.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

eagle

You are so spot on, all I can say is "Amen."

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

I am so frustrated that so relatively "many" THINK they see more than the coaches and the players see. It is time to pull back into balance your frustration with just not winning with the values this university, and the church it represents, espouse.

eagle
Provo, UT

Y Grad/Y Dad:

Thanks for being one fan that is sane.

TroyO6:

Bronco has won 10 games a few times, BYU will have another winning season this season--they even played the #1 team in the country to a three point game at their place. The incident at the restaurant aside, his players are generally good citizens and reach out to the community in meaningful ways. Besides Utah, BYU hasn't lost to any team that is a poor team. San Jose State will likely have 10 wins and their best season in program history. ND is ranked #1 in the country and is 11-0. Boise State has lost two games all year long, those losses coming by a combined six points. Oregon State is on the verge of winning 10 games and is nationally ranked. The Cougs beat Utah State which has won 10 games for the first time in school history. By any standards HE IS DOING HIS JOB!

sg
newhall, CA

It's time to find a better offensive coordinator. Doman is terrible. His schemes are predictable. Please for the love of the program, get rid of him and find a seasoned coordinator. Riley was good, not great and never a deep threat. He would have been better as a running back or receiver. BYU needs a better caliber QB. This season was frankly dreadful. We beat pansies, and couldn't beat good teams. In other words, this was a very average team. Boring to say the least. Not even worth time to watch.

Troy06
OREM, UT

Eagle, I'm sure you are aware that none of your tithing dollars reach the athletic department right? Yours either YDad - BTW your username is somewhat arrogant driving home the stereotype of an obsorbed arrogant BYU fan.

You don't know what is happening behind the scenes at practice and you don't know the entire story of how Doman has treated certain players. Plus I have not been un-"Christlike" in any of my posts regarding Bronco or Doman.

Did you know a certain BYU player midseason last year packed everything into a box from Jake Heaps locker? Guess what he did with Jake's stuff...it was dropped in Bronco's office with a hand written note stating "I quite". Who do you think drove this student athlete to empty Jake's locker? Are you aware of how the situation was handled by the coaches? I'm not going to tell you.

Please get off your holier than thow pedestal.

RU Serious
Washington, UT

@fender

Upper DI? LOL. The BCS has the upper DI schools. Not even all those schools are Upper DI schools? Maybe once every 10-20years.

starthillnotnelson
Kamas/United States, UT

It is definitely not just Nelson's fault, but he has not been too impressive. If he were a freshman, I think it would be fine, but this is just ridiculous. I am personally tired of running QBs. Seeing James Lark made me feel all depressed. We had this guy for 4 years, and when he gets his chance and shines, it doesn't matter because he will be gone. He will probably not start the bowl game either. I wish we could get a guy who is: 1) Not a run first guy, and when he runs, can do it well. 2) Who can get a 6 touchdown, 0 pick performance, like James Lark, and 3) Know when to keep a play going and when to throw it away or take a sack.

starthillnotnelson
Kamas/United States, UT

I hope Taysom throws more next year. I am tired of the "short pass, option" offense.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Troy06

????? Not sure about arrogant. I went to the Y, my kids went to the Y. Not a huge creative leap there.

The fact that you imply/say you know something, but don't say what it is, doesn't make for a significant reason to change my mind about anything. But it's just one mind, and apparently an arrogant one to boot.

You suggest I am arrogant - fair enough, that could be. I'll have to take a closer inventory and see what actions could be perceived as arrogant, and when they are not in line with the values I respect, I'll repent and try to do better. If my actions ARE in line with the values I espouse, then I will just have to learn to live with unjustified criticism.

I suggest the same for many of the fans here who, I think, have allowed their passion for athletics to pull them from the values I think they also cling to. I just don't think many of us would like these words to come up in that inevitable last and final PPI.

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