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Published: Thursday, Nov. 22 2012 12:25 p.m. MST

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Springville, UT

Despite all the negatives there are shining moments for Riley.

First of all, BYU is bowling this year. Several of you Ute fans chiming in on this article need a Kleenex over that one. Let the sobbing continue.

As much as a BYU fan wants to win every game and return to the wonder years of Lavell Edwards these are different times. It takes a lot of talent to make it all happen and with Riley, well it was inconsistent at times and these injuries were problematic.

But in this kids defense I will never forget that USU game when Heaps was pulled and Riley pulled out the win. That was a game and there were others as well. I'll agree that some decisions have been questionable but I'll let the coaches figure it out.

It's a game, it's entertainment, and I have enjoyed it all. Like Y Dad, I'm a little embarrassed at some of these comments of the so called BYU faithful.

Lighten up, it could be worse, you could be a Ute fan with no post season.

Good luck Riley as you move on in life.

West Jordan, UT

The issue is that Doman is commending Riley for going back in the game against San Jose State. If Nelson were a true leader, he would have recognized that BYU's best chance to win the game would be with Lark, not him. Had he done this earlier in the year, BYU would have more wins (Utah and Boise to name a few).

He is selfish and doesn't understand the concept of a team. If you truly care about the team, you don't play with a fractured back. That is not tough. That is not feisty. That is just plain stupid and most of all, immature. Give the Cougs a chance and have Riley sit out. he is not the future, his time is over - thank the heavens!

My hope is that Riley and Doman are a package deal and that they both are gone after this year.

Lehi, UT

The legacy of Riley Nelson is having the 94th best quarterback rating in NCAA football. This is out of the 117 quarterbacks who had enough snaps to qualify. 94th out of 117 is apparently the new standard at BYU.

Salt Lake City, UT


"The issue is that Doman is commending Riley for going back in the game against San Jose State. If Nelson were a true leader, he would have recognized that BYU's best chance to win the game would be with Lark, not him. Had he done this earlier in the year, BYU would have more wins (Utah and Boise to name a few)."

I blame that decision entirely on Doman and Bronco.

Doman should have had the foresight to have a quality backup QB prepared to be ready to step in at a moment's notice (and he certainly much more time to prepare than that.).

Bronco should have taken responsibility to intercede when it became apparent the Doman was unwilling to sit Riley as long as Riley was still breathing.

Bountiful, UT

Rudy with all of his tenacious, gritty, never quitting attitude is probably wishing he could have come to BYU under Bronco instead of Notre Dame. He could have been QB forever instead of one play at the end of his senior year. And he could have gotten carried off the field by his coaches every game!

From a fan perspective BYU shouldn't pay Bronco 750K+ a year to "mold young men", they should pay him that kind of money to win games. If they want to hold great firesides and mold young men there are a lot of guys on CES salary that could do just as good of a job.

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

I too am one 40 year fan of BYU who doesn't care anymore. 8:00 PM games just to be on ESPN3 against weak teams has dampened my interest. Going independent to be on TV showed little regard for long time fans. I do not think Nelson is physically well enough to play....did the coaches not see his agony while being examined on the bench last Saturday as I did on TV? What does coach Mendenhall tell Lark....after loyally working and waiting?

deductive reasoning
Arlington, VA

Riley's legacy will be a gritty player who gave it his all, but because of poor decision-making by his coaches, spent his time playing a position he was ill-prepared to play -- physically, skill-wise, and decision-making wise.

Doman should have stayed with the plan they had when Heaps was made BYU's starting QB, to play Riley on special teams, as a half-back or defensive back. If Heaps wasn't ready to be BYU's starter after the Utah State game, Lark should have been made BYU's starting QB.

Saratoga Springs, UT

I played college football i was as they say as competitive as they come. I wouldn't pull myself out of a game either. It's up to the coaches to do that. I am a Ute fan but i can't beleive how much trust this coaching staff has in RN. If i were a QB now way would i want to go play for that staff.And about the bowl game who cares. Yes i wish we were going but these lower bowl games aren't what we all want right?

Highland, UT


utah "fans" like yourself would love to be in any bowl game at all this year. There are maybe 4-5 bowl games that have enough prestige to make any kind of claim of superiority, and even those don't mean much, it is the National Championship that actually means something, so going to a bowl game, any bowl game, is pretty much all that matters other than for the 2 teams that have a shot at a national championship.

Orem, UT

You fired the DC and it worked out great. Now be great and fire the OC. This does two things, it makes us better offensively and it helps you keep your job Bronco.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

It's true Duckhunter, most Utah fans would prefer to go to a bowl game this season. But our team didn't earn it this year. The level of play in conf. has stepped up and Utah needs to step up with it because there aren't nearly as many built in wins as Utah had in the past. When Utah does get back into a bowl it'll be great because I will know that Utah truly earned that spot.

I disagree about all-non BCS bowls being all the same. The Outback Bowl and the Alamo Bowl are not the same as the Potato Bowl and the New Mexico Bowl. They really aren't even comparable. The first two mentioned are far more prestigious which is why they have better contracts with conferences, higher payouts, bigger stadiums, better time slots, etc. In short, they are more prestigious because better teams play in them when compared to lower tier bowls.

Saint George, UT

BYU has a wonderful stadium, dedicated administrators, fully-invested coaches and hard-working players as well as a pathetic fan base that does not deserve any of the above.

Orem, UT

Two For Flinching

Calling a bowl "prestigious" is largely in the eye of the beholder.

For Utah, playing in the Sugar Bowl was the greatest achievement and most prestigious bowl in Utah football history.

For Alabama, playing in the Sugar Bowl was a bitter disappointment and far less prestigious than Alabama was hoping for.

There is a certain "prestige" level to various bowls, but the bowl opponent is more important, and the final end-of-season rankings trump everything else.

To say that not playing in a bowl is no big deal, however, is simply denying reality.

On a scale of national championship being the ultimate success, and winless being ultimate failure, finishing with a winning record and qualifying for a bowl are the mininum standard for grading success versus failure.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA


"BYU has a wonderful stadium, dedicated administrators, fully-invested coaches and hard-working players as well as a pathetic fan base that does not deserve any of the above."

That is an over generalization. Although there's not much evidence on this page to disprove it.

William Wallace

Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading. People saying maybe Heaps could be maturing at QB right now? You only gave him 1/2 a season before you boo'd him off the field. Now we're wishing he was back? Seriously? The most fickle fans ever. Just keep hoping for Detmer, McMahon and Young to come back. Those kinds of guys wouldn't dare come to BYU. No loyalty whatsoever. By the way, don't hold your breath for Jabari Parker. He's got bigger goals in mind. Coach K will love him.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Doman's comments only show the lovefest that exists between the coaches and Riley. Sad sad commentary. Please give Lark the starting position this week. Riley deserves a week off.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

Re:William Wallace

Like most fans I agree that it was the right move to pull Jake Heaps in the Utah State game.


Jake should have been put back in the following week against San Jose State, but it never happened.

I personally thought that the coaches benched Jake as a temporary move, and as a wake up call for Jake. I did not see this as some kind of permanent move. If anything that was shocking. What I also didn't understand why the team played so much harder for Riley. Shouldn't you play hard for any starting QB? I realize he wasn't playing efficiently, but I have never seen so many dropped passes in my life. Then all of the sudden, Riley throws the ball to receivers and they remember how to catch passes? I'm not buying it.

I never bought into Riley's "team first" farce. In fact, I really don't think he was ever about the team at all. If it were up to Riley, he would keep the ball on every play and never even throw it. He throws to keep playing.


If Bronco and Brandon only paid more attention to thier responcibility as coaches instead of coddling Riley, perhaps there would be a few more wins. The coaches are so concerned about this guys mental health that they failed the team. Changed need to be made in leadership.

Anchorage, AK

So, if the blame isn't on Nelson, then it is squarely on Doman and Mendenhall. Doman is terrible as an OC and Bronco's love of grit has cost the program...both need to be removed as soon as the final snap is made. Bronco can stay at the DC, if he will swallow a demotion, but Doman needs to find another line of work. Andy Reed needs to be offered the job - he will be unemployed soon - and BYU needs to pay whatever it takes to get him to Provo.

Also, there is no way, shape or form that BYU should be considering rejoining the MWC. Indepence isn't all that it's made out to be because of scheduling, but as someone who lives outside the Utah bubble, that conference (and the WAC) are laughing stocks and BYU would be better served finding another conference besides either of those.

Anchorage, AK

wer: I can name five: Andy Reed, Andy Reed, Andy Reed, Andy Reed and Andy Reed.

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