Comments about ‘Skyrocketing income inequality in America over the past 30 years’

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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 21 2012 6:30 a.m. MST

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

One thing I forgot to mention, and given what today is, I would be remiss. I work throughout the world, helping many of these companies being referred to figure out ways to make yet even more money through sharpening their margins and increasing productivity. Focused on energy and exploration, I get to go to a lot of remote locations through the world well off the tourist beaten paths.

In doing so, I witness real poverty, what having the chance at jobs really means to some What rings home is despite our differences, our flaws, and all our problems , there are many in this world that would exchange their problems for ours in a heart beat. We truly do live in a blessed time and place. We need to keep those "issues" we think we have in perspective, and give thanksgiving for the many things we have. The graft, corruption, and despair experienced through out the world should remind us that our differences are far less than we imagine, and our problems are ever so much more solvable - if we just remember and give thanks for those things we do have.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

To all the whining class envy soclialists. Lincoln said it best :"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
... Abraham Lincoln
Reading all this whining proves to me Obama has been succesful in tearing down the Country.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

A lot of people are struggling in today's economy. It is not fair to label all the poor as lazy and unmotivated. I just turned 57. I am buried in debt and just getting by. I have worked since I was fourteen. I earned money for an LDS mission by bagging groceries and farm labor. I served 25 years in the Army National Guard. Yes I have made mistakes, I freely admit it. The issue I have with conservatives is they are so judgemental of others. Americans are not lazy people, never have been and never will be. Conservatives need to stop buying into all the stereotypes and start being more charitable towards others. Charity is not socialism. The Book of Mormon warns us of the dangers of pride, materialism, inequality and turning our backs on the poor and needy. I am conservative myself. Conservatives need to stop blaming the poor for being poor. That was Romney's problem. He has no clue what it is like to be poor or even middle class in America. Assigning character flaws to others is hypocritical. We all have faults and shortcomings.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

mohokat

1 - That quote was first penned decades after Lincoln's death, he never said it. If you're misinformed about a simple quote, where else are you misinformed?

2 - The "whining class envy soclialists (sic)" that kept Romney out of the White House literally pay for you to live. Since 1981, the State of Utah has received more than $22billion USD in Federal dollars that it didn't pay into the system. In other words, your entire state has been subsidized to the tune of nearly a billion dollars a year while my state, CA, paid out more than $489billion more than it received. We literally bail your state out every single year. Further, our GDP per capita is more than 125% of Utah's. On any given work day, the average Californian will produce 125% of the wealth you do. So, I'll make you a deal, you can start accusing the productive members of society of being "soclialists" when a) you pay off your $22billion tab, and b) catch up with the rest of us in productivity. Deal?

slpa1
West Jordan, UT

@frugalfly:

"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift..."

Abraham Lincoln never said that. It was written by John Henry Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister, in 1916.

Since you got that wrong, how much of the rest of your argument is similarly flawed?

Rocket Science
Brigham City, UT

Capitalism is not a perfect but it has provided the incentive for the prosperity we have enjoyed over many many years.

"Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty". Winston Churchhill

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Stalwart Sentinel

All you have verified is that The Federal Government via socialistic programming has made:

ALL States dependent on the government for federal funding,

has put all schools under federal control via dependence on federal funds, ( a hundred years is was socialists idea to push all children into public schools where they could be taught what they wanted the children to be taught, before that most children were in private schools, or locally funded and controlled schools)

and has 50% of the population dependent on federal funding from EIC to welfare, from headstart to SS, from food stamps to obamaphones,

the government is now dictating over bake sales, light bulbs, the size your soda, and on and on,

How is all this control in the hands of few such a good thing?

If the federal government controls all income then they have all control over all things and all people. Tyranny.

You don't effect change with federal power, you effect change by changing minds and hearts.

But the left will not allow true change because they will not allow the teaching of morals, values, and principles.

It's ALL about power not change.

HOw is this good thing.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

@ Stalwart Sentinel

I am suspect you to be a school teacher the way you jumped on my typo. I will leave school teachers alone in this post. Dang those are impressive numbers but I have heard them before from California folks.That must be a cookie cutter reply out there. I didn't care then and I don't care now. Dang you folks must be busy out there. You are 125% more productive than I am.Here are some stats you might want to see. CA. is upside down some $300 billion. Your unemployment is over 10%. You have one third of Americas welfare recipients while being one eighth of the population. Americas highest state or in other words the Welfare Queen.You have the lowest credit rating of all the states according to S&P.Over 4 million on food stamps.You better get a lot more productive cause it appears you will need it. You need to point your finger at Sacremento and Washington D.C and most of all yourselves. I do not think that SLC has that much to do with your problems.I am glad you are there and I am not.

frugalfly
PULLMAN, WA

The tax cuts of the early 80's and Bush tax cuts produced the largest increases in tax revenue in the history of the country. The problem is that we spend it faster than we raise it. Our problems are spending problems not tax revenue problems. I agree with the commentator that the richest counties vote blue. These are the Beverly Hills ultra/ubber rich type of counties (low population). The blue is made of the bottom 1/3 urban class, the 1/5 social blue (more fiscal red but socially blue) and the small elite rich. Remember that what makes someone blue isn't necessarily agreement with economics but social agreement. I know lots of people who voted for Obama because of social liberalism. If they had their way they would like a fiscal conservative and socially liberal candidate. When they make their mind up they go for the social issues.

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