JUCO's have been very good for Utah over the years. Any one notice that BYU
just lost a comitment from a top HS player in Oregon, yet signed a kid from Utah
who didn't have a single offer from another school? It must be rough
getting out recruited and out played year, after year, after year...
@duckYou really need to spend your time on more productive things.
There really is more to life than trying to trash all things related to Utah. I
personally don't find much satisfaction in trashing BYU. You really ought
to consider being a little nicer to your rivals, especially one who has
consistently beaten your team for several years in a row.
@2bcslivinginthepastThe team I'm baggins is 4-7, not much more
really needs to be said about it.
@DuckyMaybe the cougies should try going that route. Seeing how the
team you bag for doing it owns them. 3 in a row 8 of last of 11 and overall well
DuckOf course you were getting your jabs in, I chose to ignore it. I
don't know why you worry so much about what fans claim. I have spent too
many hours myself doing that, and not getting on the board over the past 3
months has been a boon to my life.StG: I think your probably
right on Fitz, I merely mentioned him because he got more reps against AZ than I
had seen him get all season. As for Pedroza, I think he will be a good one, I
wonder if he can grow into a tight end. He would be a tough matchup there.As a simple exercise, I looked at Oregon's recruiting classes since
2005. 2010-2012 Oregon has signed 68 players, only 7 of whom were JUCOs.
However, as they were building their program they signed 6 or more JUCOs 4 out
of those 5 remaining 5 classes.
@vegasute4-7 pretty much validates both of my points.LOL!
Ducky:Where is Fangupo? You have no valid points.Go
@pocyIt was multiple points really. One was a jab at Utah fans and
thier boasting about all of the 4-5 star hs recruits that would be lining up to
go to Utah. It obviously hasn't happened that way. The other point is
definately a jab at Utah's continued reliance on JC recruits, unless a jc
kid is an absolute superstar they shouldn't be any more of a stop gap for
any top program that might find itself in immediate need at a position while a
younger player matures. You do not see top programs signing the number of JC
kids that Utah signs and at least in the case of Utah fans we have been told
Utah is now a top program. It is obvious Utah does not compete in the manner
Utah fans claimed they would for top hs talent or they would not be mining the
jc's the way they do.Now to me it is a pretty good indicator of
what type of program Utah is and what they believe they have to do to be
competitive. It reminds me a lot of NMSU basketball program under Neil McCarthy
minus the corresponding success.
pocyUte, Fitz is a great guy and gives great effort, but I don't see him as
skilled or explosive enough to be much more than a role player, and I'm not
a fan of Pedroza, although he's been good on special teams coverage this
year. Btw, McGill wasn't exactly beaten out by Rowe, although I think Rowe
has proven to be better since the beginning of his true freshman year. He was
starting along with Rowe with Blechen at LB, but was injured early in the season
and reinjured before this year started. He should be a key contributor next year
WookieI agree with you that there is danger in relying on JUCO guys.
They are a high risk, high reward type recruit. But man, if we didn't
have Juan Blanco Quatro we would have been in terrible shape. It is dangerous
bringing in JUCO guys and expect them to be a huge contributor right away. For
every JWIV there is a Keith McGill (man, I hope he comes in and tears it up at
CB next year, that would be huge) who was beaten out by true freshman Rowe (a
big time player, btw)StG: You pointed out a great question for next
year, who steps up at receiver? Losing Matthews, Dunn and DVC as well as 3 TE
is a big deal. I loved the emergence of Scott, hopefully Dres and continue
getting a little more sure handed as he improved over the season so they should
be set. It was interesting to see how many reps Fitzgerald and Pedroza got on
Saturday. Hopefully they will emerge a little more as well. I Carter will be an
impact player wherever he goes. I'm excited to see him on the field.
pocyUte, don't be surprised if Carter ends up on offense, either. Moving
back to more of a spread offense, they need quality depth and explosive
playmakers at WR, and with 3 key contributors at the position graduating, I can
see redshirt frosh Brian Allen and Delshawn McClellon along with Geoff Norwood
and incoming freshman X'avier Shepherd and JUCO transfer Andre Lewis
possibly stepping up in the rotation, but Carter was one of the top receivers of
the 2010 class, and if he makes a strong impression in either spring or fall
camp, whenever he enrolls, I could see him playing offense instead of defense.
@ pocyUte: I am not certain what Duckhunter is inferring by his
comment, but I do appreciate your facts as they relate to the total of JUCO
commits to HS commits. I am not certain though that this recipe is working for
the Utes as their record certainly indicates that something needs to be fixed.
Duck, your point is not invalid.Certainly we would rather build with
4-5 year players, but, this year was a great example of the need for depth. I
find it interesting what positions they are bringing in JUCO guys at. I was a
bit surprised by Carter, but he is a big time athlete that can play free or
strong safety. My guess is it will allow Blechen to spend more time at LB,
bringing more speed to that position. Booker solidifies RB depth, especially
with Oliver having surgery. Only 1 OL JUCO hopefully means that the coaches
feel that last year's focus on the O line will be ready to contribute soon
2 years. But 6 of their current 23 commits isn't too far off from last
year with 8 of 30 commits.
More JC guys huh?
Selvin Young was a very speedy back with great hands out of the backfield for
the Longhorns. Let's hope Dre'Vian brings similar attributes to the
Utes. Tevin Carter was a big time prospect just a couple years ago and had high
expectations in Berkeley, but for whatever reason did not get along with
Tedford. His commitment isn't solid, but if he does sign, it'd be
great to see him live up to his potential with a fresh start.