Mildred in Fillmore "40 points"? on how many shots? How many turn overs?
How many points surrendered trying to defend the six foot seven guard he's
defending? You're dreaming. Don't you think an NBA team would have
exposed his talents by now? These owners know what they have. The word on Jimmer
was that he had a very difficult time playing within a structured offense. BYU
let him run wild, shooting more than half of the teams total shots. Kobe maybe,
but even LaBron and the others must play within there teams given offense or it
doesn't work. Now add in Jimmers lack of size and ball handling
capabilities and you have a kid that will struggle with NBA talent. This
isn't BYU, and they are playing the best and biggest every night. Jimmer
can shoot, there isn't anyone that doesn't agree with that. There are
many more requirements to play in the NBA.
@ dustmanJimmer was the consensus Player of the Year in college
basketball. A lot of people thought he was more than just a "good college
player." Like it or not, Jimmer was an icon and will be a good pro player.
There may never be another john Stockton, but you're right, not even Steve
Kerr thinks Jimmer is a Steve Kerr. Kerr thinks he's much better.
Play him 40 minutes a game and he will average 40 points a game.
Jimmer Watch:Jimmer is less than average...again.Jimmer
may decide to play defense one day....again.Jimmer is no John
Stockton. Jimmer is no Steve Kerr. Jimmer ain't even Danny Ainge.Jimmer WAS a good college player.
Jimmer is not and never will be a NBA guard. There isn't a team in the NBA
that will give him 25 to 30 shots a night like he had at BYU. The talent is too
big and too fast at this level for Jimmer to be anything more than a deep threat
at the end of each quarter. He cannot defend, he doesn't have that good of
passing skills, he is too small for today's NBA two guards, and not good
enough to play point. He was fun to watch at BYU, but the expectations around
here are unreal. J J Reddick made it, so Jimmer mind find his place on a team,
but he isn't going to be what some of you fans expect. Pistol Pete and
Jimmer? Really? Damien Lillard could be the best product out of a Utah school in
SlopJ30There were quite a few times when Jimmer would shoot one
about ten to fifteen feet away from the three-point line not because the shot
clock was almost out, but just to get the attention of the crowd because he was
on a streak making shots. I didn't care for Jimmer's style of
game--it was a ball hog style. Lillard on the other hand played a
very team concept, and would gladly pass the ball when double-teamed where
Jimmer did it as a last option. Lillard was very team-oriented, not
self-oriented. I guess I am old school and like a team concept.Lillard is already looking like a strong rookie of the year candidate, and
Jimmer is playing limited minutes. The facts speak for themselves--Lillard is
better...period, end-o-story. The great white hope is a great big nope!
Wildcat is the latest in a long line of anti-Jimmerites who like to rip on him
for repeatedly taking "40 footers." I'd be curious to see how many
actual 40 footers he took, especially when you remove shots taken to beat a
buzzer. To save time, I'll give you an answer: zero.The college
three-point line is just under 20 feet from the basket. Take a look at his more
Youtubed bombs (at home vs TCU, near the end of regulation in the Sweet 16 game
against Florida, at UNLV, at CSU) and tell me you still think that's even
close to 40 feet. Maybe you just like to round all numbers up to the nearest 40,
but I'm seeing, even in his longest shots, 28-32 feet.How is
this relevant to the article? It isn't. I just can't stand people
expressing opinions backed up by complete fiction or exaggeration.
Sportswriters write for their audience--in this case, Jimmer fans and the
minority who aren't. There will be a "Miller Watch" when it is
perceived that there are more than a few Utah fans who care about Andre Miller
(or even remember him). Whether Utah or Weber State fans like it or not, Jimmer
was, for a time, a folk hero in Utah and the nation, for that matter. Damien
Lillard was a great college player and is proving to be a very good pro player,
but I've never heard of anyone saying they were "Damien'd."
The Ogden Examiner could run a "Damien Watch" and Weber State fans would
probably read it. Nobody else in the Deseret News regular readership would.
Jimmer needs to study the life of Pistol Pete Maravich. Pete and Jimmer have one
thing in common. They are both scoring type of guards. However one thing that
Jimmer lacks that Pete had is confidence.Pete never doubted his ability and
pushed himself to be the best. Jimmer has the talent and all the tangibles to be
a great NBA scorer but he doesn't carry himself like the winner he really
his. He needs to play with a chip on his shoulder and prove everyone that he his
name belongs in the same conversation as Pete Maravich and Larry Bird. Come on
Jimmer wake up and play to your potential. You made it to the NBA but just
making it is not enough. We want to see you step up and show us that you really
can shine and be a great player.
Thanks Wildcat Man,Where are the stories on Lillard? I would like
to read some on Andre Miller as well, but since the D-News has man crush on
Jimmer, he gets all the ink. I personally don't like Jimmer's college
game--too much of a ball hog for my taste and his 40-foot attempts were a little
embarrassing when he missed them. I thought Jimmer had some talent surrounding
that made him better like Emery, who was a really good shooter.Still, great kid and wish him the best, but let's focus on the better
talent of Utah shall we?
Kevin O'conner's response about so many questions about Jimmer was
basically what motorbike said about Andre Miller. He has had a great career but
we don't hear that much about him. Damian Lillard is playing great too but
there are rarely updates about him. None of the three grew up in utah and they
all spent 4 seasons at their respective colleges in Utah but Jimmer has much
much more coverage than the other two. Maybe it's because BYU has a better
following or maybe we like following the white mormon guy because he's more
like us. Either way, Dnews knows what to write to get the most comments.
People - and include sportswriters, fans and even NBA scouts - get so caught up
in what just happened last week or last game. Or, in this case, the last season.
The list of players who had so-so to lousy rookie seasons but managed to have
solid careers is pretty long. I don't know how it will play out, but to
assume Fredette is a hopeless cause is a product of groupthink. Teams need
shooters. With a better fit than the Queens, he'd have a much better shot.
That seems self-evident.As for why we have "Jimmer Watch,"
it's because he was (and still is) insanely popular compared to Lillard or
Miller. Why? He just is, that's why. I love seeing Miller do well, and I
hope Lillard is a perennial all-pro. I grew up in Ogden, so that would be pretty
cool. But Jimmer, for whatever reasons you care to cite, is just more
interesting to a lot of people. Why fight it?
This is just kind of funny. Living where I do, we have seen big names come
through through here many times. If the news papers did a week by week analysis
of players who were top draft picks, the sports sections would have to be
doubled. But here we have learned that big name college basketball
players do not necessarily make great pro players - particularly when they play
in a league of dubious talent levels. Let's face it, Jimmer had some
fantastic years against some pretty ordinary defenses. This isn't a dis
against him. We have had players here go all the way to the championship game
in the NCAA - win the title - be named MVP - and had less then spectacular
careers.So take a deep breath. Enjoy the memories of Jimmer....
follow his career... and enjoy it for what it is. He is not the next Michael
Jordan or LaBron James. Most players aren't.
@SwoopFair enough, but only the diehard coug fans haven't already
given up on Jimmer doing anything in the NBA. So it's really not much
different other than that Andre still posts consistently good numbers to this
day.@birwinYour point makes sense, but that said, I'm
sure no one's buying the newspaper with the thought of there might be a
good article on Jimmer today.@Wildcat ManYour comment makes
the most sense of all. Most recent to have played for a local college team and
is having the most success. There you go DNews, how about starting 'Lillard
Watch'? Makes a lot more sense.
Man when are the Kings going to get with it and start playing The Jimmer?! They
are wasting a once in a generation talent! Forget Lillard, give me more of the
poor man's Kirk Hinrich.
There's weekly updates about this? How about I just sum up his entire
season now and we can skip 30 more articles.Spotty success for
Jimmer as the Sacramento Kings struggle to adequately utilize their assets
throughout their roster. His growth minimal, it appears that Jimmer would need a
better coached team to have a chance of reaching expectations where he could
develop into a serviceable starter on a team.
And while you're at it DesNews, how about starting a "Damian Lillard
Watch", since he also played for another local University?? The only thing
Damian Lillard has done since he was selected #6 by Portland is lead all rookies
in averaging 19 points and 6 assists in 10 games this season as a STARTING POINT
GUARD. In his debut, Damian had 23 points and 11 assists, joining Oscar
Robertson and Isiah Thomas as the only players in NBA history with at least 20
points and 10 assists in their NBA debuts. He also joined Oscar Robertson as one
of the only players to record 20 or more points and more than seven assists in
their first three rookie season games.
Newspapers publish what people want to read. If nobody reads a Jimmer Watch,
they stop writing a Jimmer Watch. Instead of complaining to Deseret News,
complain to everyone who is interested in reading about Jimmer.
motorbike"how about starting a 'Miller Watch'"Because nobody except a few diehards on the hill cares about Utah
Hey DNews, how about starting a 'Miller Watch'. There just
happens to be a guy named Andre Miller who played for another local University
who is now NBA top 10 (all-time) in assists. He took his college team to a sweet
16, an elite 8, an NCAA Championship game, and the round of 32. He recorded a
triple-double in an NCAA tourney game - one of eight all-time.Fans whine
about Jimmer being on the wrong NBA team to succeed, yet Andre has had to deal
with the same thing over and over again but continues to quietly do the best he
can to help teams win. In the process he has accumulated numbers, stats and
averages that if he was on a more promising team would have had him in the
limelight several times over.I'm of course being a bit tongue in
cheek about the 'Miller Watch', but it just seems like overkill to
have 'Jimmer Watch' when the guy had one great season in college and
has done and accomplished little else. Good guy, hope he breaks through, but not
holding my breath.
As long time Kings fan I see the team in total turmoil. Jimmer's career has
gotten off to a terrible start because of it. I would think that if he continues
to play well in the very limited time he is getting, some other team might show
interest in a guy who can hit about 98% with no one in his face. Can you imagine
if CP3 or Rose was feeding him passes? The kings have one good player, DMC.
Everyone else is really a bench player on most other teams. And the coaching
staff is wasting a former player of the year. Its sad to watch.
From what I hear he is getting rusty sitting on the banch. What can one expect
when Sacramento does not utilize him. He needs to get out of there and play for