Published: Thursday, Nov. 15 2012 3:00 p.m. MST
It would be nice if the article actually mentioned what was changed over prior
And where was the 'other' Utah school in the rankings???"... No other Utah schools were rated in the top 63 MBA programs in the
U.S., according to the report."Congrats to BYU... the best MBA
program in the state.Now I know why my son is waiting it out to get
in to BYU. He got accepted to the U but this is obviously worth waiting for.
His stake president told him to push harder for admission to BYU.
sammyg,Has he applied anywhere else? Putting all of your hopes in
one B-school basket isn't wise. He doesn't have to settle for the U,
which by the way isn't a bad MBA program, but if he is holding out for just
BYU, he may be in for a long wait. The Marriott School is as hard to get into as
Harvard, Booth, Sloan, Stern, Tuck, etc., etc., and those schools are much more
prestigious. If I were him, I'd apply to all of them, and just
'settle' for the one I got into.
Until they can attract the international, ethnic minority students and more
qualified women they won't move up. And the school's focus is teaching
so that hurts them also.
sammyg - seriously.... you think be in a top 40 school is going to make all
that difference. I deal with MBA type kids all the time, and honestly what
school they went to make nearly no difference what so ever. There are just as
many idiot kids coming out of top ranked schools as there are kids with the
right stuff coming from no name schools. If you are hired by a company because
you went to the right school rather than you show the right aptitude, run away
from that company.I think BYU has a special mission in this world.
That to me has nothing to do with its ranking. Creating creative, ethical, and
hard working employees is far more important that being a book worm from a
"top school". If your leader really believes your kids
earning power will be dependent on if he has a Y or a U on his diploma, he
isn't showing much faith in your kids business street smarts. Larry
Ellison, Michael Dell and Bill Gates..... it was their vision, not their degree
that made them who they are.
Next time, correlate your picture with the article.
First of all, BYU is not as hard to get into as Stanford, Harvard, Booth,
Wharton, etc. Whoever tries to say they are similar is crazy. The average gmat
for BYU is around 675 with a 44% acceptance rate. Stanford is around a 720
average gmat with a 7% acceptance rate. Unless you have a killer business
background, don't even try applying to the top 10 with lower than a 700
gmat. I know a woman that got into BYU with a 580 because why??? she was a girl.
The top programs don't play that game.BYU is dropping in the
rankings because they are not very diverse. I would bet that the majority of
their students are BYU undergrads that studied corporate finance or business
management. And yes, we all know they served missions and speak different
languages. That no longer counts for diversity, especially when all of your
classmates are in the same boat. Top programs have diverse backgrounds so that
students can learn from one another (case study method).However,
"common sense is greater than an MBA" -Larry Miller
My mistake, Cougar10. If the Marriott School let someone in with a 580 GMAT, and
overall has a 44% acceptance rate, it's much easier to get into than I
thought. That's news to me. Thank you for the correction.
We don't worry about rankings because we have a higher purpose and the
world is our campus.
People contemplating an MBA or watching these rankings need to realize that the
difference between MBAs is about BRAND--as in name brand vs. generic. The
course content across B-schools is largely the same. The accreditation process
ensures that. They all teach the same cases (most of which are written at
Harvard); they all use the same textbooks; and the professors all visit and
collaborate. Rather, what you're buying from a Harvard or Stanford vs. a
BYU is a BRAND. That doesn't mean that which B-school you go
to isn't important. It just means the content isn't all that
different. Your MBA brand reveals how stringent the acceptance process was and
the type of classmates with whom you'll rub shoulders and network. These
are all signals and indicators to your future employer.
re: Logit. That's only partially true. Indeed what you get is BRAND, but
there is much more to b-school than the cases and course outcomes. There are
unique experiences, cultures and programs that each school offers which differ
from others. Not to mention companies that recruit there (which falls into
brand). What you've said is similar to saying that playing
football at Arizona is "pretty much the same" as playing football at
Oregon or Alabama. The plays are the same, coaches all collaborate and move
around, etc. NO that's not true. Do that comparison and you'll
understand. BYU is a fine school but it's nowhere near the top schools, and
for good reason. And even if you say BRAND is the difference, well everything
that goes into that school is part of the BRAND.
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