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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 13 2012 11:57 p.m. MST

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NC FROGS 2010
Gilbert, AZ

The Utes are guaranteed to have their second losing Pac10 conference record in two...it is a new world and U will just need to get used to it.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

My comment that the Utes would need 3 seasons to accumulate 10 PAC 12 Conference victories certainly has credibility. If they lose the last two this year they may need 4 seasons to accomplish that. Best of luck, Utes, looking up from near the bottom. (But then the Arizona schools did that for decades....why shouldn't "U"?)

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not worried.

I'm frustrated we weren't ready to play the last 2 years, but why do I know Whittingham will take us to the top of the country?

Because he's already taken us there.

Aggies and Cougars,

Please remind me the last time you went undefeated, finished #2 or higher in the country, and won a BCS game?

Oh I'm sorry you haven't been there. At least not in the past 30 years.

Our coach has.

And he'll take us there again

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

"Winning 10 games like clockwork in the Mountain West, I mean, that was then and this is now."

Sorry coach, but when have the Utes ever won 10 games like clockwork in any conference they've ever been in - WAC, MWC, or PAC???

You've obviously confused winning 10 games like clockwork with your former team down south.

10+ Win Seasons
Bronco 5, including FOUR in a row 2006 to 2009
Kyle 3

10+ Win Seasons All Time
BYU 16, including SIX in seven years 1979 to 1985
Utah 6

It is a new world for the Utes and the new normal for Utah is 6-6 PAC 12 bottom dweller.

Sorry if the truth hurts.

Go Wildcats!

eagle
Provo, UT

I think a lot of 7-5, 6-6, 5-7 seasons are in the works. Maybe 8-4 on a good year. It is the new reality...

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Utah has a top 20 SOS this year and next year it will be worse with games at Oregon, Stanford, and USC. No team in the state has ever had such a schedule. With BJ still learning I think we will continue to struggle for the next few years.

Hey, at least BYU fans have something to cheer for since they can't beat us themselves.

Go UTES!!

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

@ Queen B.

Paranoid much? I didn't see any Cougars or Aggies commenting on the article, but the first thing you do is start slinging mud at both. And actually you have it wrong. Coach Whittingham didn't take your team there. He first rode Urban Meyer's coattails there, and then Gary Anderson's. Coach Anderson was the real reason that the Utes had any success after Urban left.

Look at what Utah has done since he left, and look at what Utah State has done. It is obvious who the coaching genious on the hill was. I am not an Aggie fan, but the results speak for themselves.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Can't believe the spinning of ute fans. They don't and never will have a winning program. Period! The PAC is a mountain they can't climb, and yes, Gary Anderson was their coaching genius.

The utes couldn't win the WAC, let alone the PAC.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

I'm not concerned about the season, I've always felt that it was going to take the Utes 3 or 4 years to learn how to compete with the "Big Boys." I miss coach Andersen, but I say give Kyle at least two more years before complaining.

In the mean time, my Utes will just have to console themselves with the "bigger cut" of pie they will soon be receiving from the PAC-12 conference.

Utah made the right choice by joining the PAC-12 conference of that I have no doubts.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

Hi Uteology,

Where on earth did you come up with your "Top 20 SOS" figure? I just checked several of the major ranking services, including RealTimeRPI, and Utah's SOS is between 49 and 65 in each of them.

This suggests a mediocre SOS at best.

TheNun
Granstville, UT

People are saying "the truth hurts" for the Utes, but often overlook the truth of the matter for other teams. That's how is goes when little brothers want to compare themselves to big brother.

Here's the truth, the Utes are not good enough, yet, to compete at the pac12 level. They are a year, perhaps two, away from having the depth needed on their roster to be consistently competitive in this league. However, they will get there.

Here's some other truths, playing 6 teams with losing records each year, and proclaiming your win-loss record is meaningful, is laughable. It is also fool hardy to believe playing a schedule like that will make your team better in the long run. Needing only to "get up" for 4 games per year, and then losing all of them, is not a recipe for national credibility, even if the games are on espn.
As for the other team, playing in the wac and mwc, is just that, playing in the wac and mwc. No matter if either team goes undefeated, the weak SOS will not get them into a "BCS" bowl or other big time games at year's end.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

They are bad. The haven't beaten a good team in years.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@Uteology

You are spot on, there's a certain fan base that is more concerned with Utah's demise, then their own teams play. Sad when you think about it.

@Hawkeye79

Google Sagarin Rankings; per the USA Today. Utah's schedule is currently ranked #11.

As far as the season goes, it has been very dissapointing. Utah State, UCLA and Oregon State were win-able games. Utah needs to get a better QB. Brian Johnson has done OK in his first season. Players need to execute and make plays. Until that happens, Utah will not beat the better teams in the PAC 12.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Oregon State had 20+ years of losing seasons before Riley turned them around.

Just Sayin'

worf
Mcallen, TX

If the utes had gone independent, they would be financially drowning. They depended on BYU TV revenue during the WAC, and MWC years, and now the PAC.

Without entitlements, their sports program would foreclosed, and Chris B would be a Weber State fan.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

"Winning 10 games like clockwork in the Mountain West, I mean, that was then and this is now.” said whittingham.

I hate to be the guy that points this out but that just wasn't the case for utah in the MWC. In utah's years in the mwc they had 5 seasons with 10 wins and 7 seasons with less than 10 wins. Less than half of the time is not exactly "like clockwork" In fact whittingham's mwc years weren't eactly "winning 10 games like clockwork" either. He had 3 10 win seasons and 3 with less than 10 wins. I do like the attempt at trying to make utah into something it has never been but unfortunately there are just to many of us that know better.

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

@ChrisB, why do you have to drag BYU and USU into every comment you make?

Utah has run into a tough stretch and it's going to be more than 2 years to get out of it. The biggest problem they'll have is on offense, with no decent QB they'll need time to groom one, which will take time. They'll get better but I doubt they'll ever be able to recruit well enough to compete consistently against the big boys of the PAC

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

It's laughable that my fellow Utah fans are so touchy about BYU fans simply stating the obvious.

Utah fans were bragging only 3 months ago during fall camp in August, that the Utes were already good enough to challenge USC for the PAC south, THIS SEASON.

Now that we've fallen on our faces, again, and have proven that we're not even close to being competitive with the big boys of the conference, our feable attempts at revisionist history are embarrassing.

The PAC 12 is a quarterback-driven league and Whittingham has been a miserable failure at recruiting good quarterbacks. How else do you explain having to rely on a D-II transfer in our first two seasons in the league?

It's nice to rub shoulders with the big boys, but it's no shame to admit that we're in over our heads and will never be anything more than a middle of the PAC team, even in our best years.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah's struggles in the PAC12 and TCU's struggles in the Big 12 have moved Cougar fans to finally accept independence. Last year, there were cries of "we need to be in a conference". Now, Tom Holmoe looks like a genius for realizing early on that BYU couldn't handle life in a BCS conference.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

Nun

"Needing only to "get up" for 4 games per year, and then losing all of them, is not a recipe for national credibility, even if the games are on ESPN."

Sorry to burst your delusional crimson bubble, but BYU is gaining plenty of national credibility, as are other teams who are playing well, even in losing efforts, against good competition. You can pretend that there's no such thing as a moral victory, but the truth is, sportswriters, coaches and fans across the country notice when a team like BYU takes the #3-ranked Fighting Irish to the wire on their home field.

Despite the obvious weaklings on their schedule, BYU has shown that they can compete with the big boys, and the national rankings reflect the respect garnered from that competitiveness.

Sagarin:

#24 Utah State
#25 BYU
#33 San Jose State
#38 Utah

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