Comments about ‘Utah Utes basketball: Runnin' Utes have piled up patsies on this year's preseason schedule — with good reason’

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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 13 2012 2:42 p.m. MST

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CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@ Chris B - "I think we'll be a middle Pac 12 team by the end of the season - which is just fine with me."

U are joking, right? Best case scenario, Utes finish #11 instead of #12. Maybe U consider #11 the middle of the PAC? But there's about a 90% chance the Utes finish dead last this year.

I sort of understand Coach K2's philosophy. I think there's value in scheduling some of these high school teams to teach the players how to win. But U also have to schedule at least 4 or 5 decent teams to see how good you really are and what U have to work on.

I'm not talking about teams like Florida State, Notre Dame and Baylor - like BYU. But at least schedule Utah State and Weber State to see how U match up with a real college team before U play Arizona and UCLA.

Comparing BYU's FB schedule to this pathetic BB schedule is a joke. Even BYU's weak November schedule the last two year is miles ahead of the Utes BB schedule.

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

16 wins for this years team. 9-3 preseason, 7-11 in conference. Oh, and Delon Wright is going to be SICK when he plays here next year.

GREAT day to be a Ute! We are coming back!

scott
Alpine, UT

Kosta Fesenko

"16 wins for this years team. 9-3 preseason, 7-11 in conference. Oh, and Delon Wright is going to be SICK when he plays here next year.

GREAT day to be a [DELUSIONAL] Ute! We are coming back!"

Even with their pathetically weak OOC schedule, the Utes still don't have a chance of finishing with a winning record this season, and even with a 14-16 record and a guaranteed loss in the opening round of the PAC tourney, the Utes won't crack the Top 200 in RPI.

If that's the hill's definition of "back", you're welcome to it.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

indycrimson

Yes, I read the article, but it didn't answer the question of how playing teams that are even more pathetic than the Utes is going to prepare Utah to play real teams.

Beating up on a bunch of high school teams may help U gain confidence and feel better about yourself, but all of that confidence will quickly be destroyed when the Utes are smoked the first time they play a legitimate team and discover how hopelessly the Utes are over-matched.

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

scott,

of course its a small step, but its one that ute fans are looking forward to. whats delusional about that?

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

I don't really care what krystkowiak's reasons are, it is still funny to me. LOL!

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

I see all the BYU comments are getting many likes. Kind of sad that fans of a team that constantly thumps their chest about how great they are feels the need to come and troll articles about how bad the Utes are.

When Utah was doing things that you kids can only dream of, BYU was the furthest thing from my mind.

you ought to grow up.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

Current Sagarin Rankings

#31 BYU 2-0 (221)
#152 Tenn St 0-2 (35)
#189 Ga St 0-2 (7)
#203 Utah 0-0 (0)

As far as Sagarin is concerned, Utah might as well be scrimmaging against East High School.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

Kosta Fesenko

BYU fans aren't the ones trying to justify a ridiculously weak OOC schedule as "needed" in order to rebuild the Utah basketball program. Even the talking heads on the PAC net are so disgusted with Utah's pre-season schedule that they won't even talk about it.

Kosta Fesenko
Chicken McNuggetville, UT

Troy,

You missed my point.

Why dont you head back to the BYU articles.

SSmith
Salt Lake City, UT

Loveridge is surely wishing he were in a blue and white jersey this year. He is probably imagining what it would be like to be a contender for four full years.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@CougFaninTX
Comparing BYU's FB schedule to this pathetic BB schedule is a joke. Even BYU's weak November schedule the last two year is miles ahead of the Utes BB schedule.

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Speaking of a joke, can you tell us when was the last time a team with a #104 SOS who beat no final ranked teams backed into a national title? Hint 1984.

Last year your SOS #90 which was on par with your 1984 team. The difference, unlike the folks down south, Coach K did not proclaim they were playing for a "National Championship" with such a pathetic schedule.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

mussingaround

Current Sagarin Rankings

#31 BYU 2-0 (221)
#152 Tenn St 0-2 (35)
#189 Ga St 0-2 (7)
#203 Utah 0-0 (0)

As far as Sagarin is concerned, Utah might as well be scrimmaging against East High School.

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You left off a few more:

#280 Pepperdine 0-2
#258 Portland 0-1

It seems you have 4 high school scrimmages on your conference schedule:

It seems our high school scrimmage still has us ranked higher than the 3 games played by the teams in your conference.

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

Uteology

Rewriting history again jealous one?

After rising to #1 in the polls in late November 1984, BYU's schedule and record were heavily scrutinized by the national media, fans, and every poll voter for over a month, along with every other legitimate contender.

Yet, after a month of the most intense scrutiny any contending national champion had ever received, BYU was still selected the 1984 CONCENSUS NATIONAL CHAMPION by EVERY major selecting organization of the day, including both national polls.

Compared to Utah's 1944 NCAA basketball tournament winning schedule, BYU 1984 played a veritable who's who of college football elites.

btw, BYU 1984, beat FOUR regular season opponents with winning records; Utah 2004 only beat THREE.

Pot, see kettle.

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

Uteology

It's laughable that you trot out SOS rankings only when it suits your biased, crimson-colored agenda.

I've never once seen you argue how ridiculously easy Utah's 2004 schedule was. Who exactly did U beat during the regular season that made U "bcs worthy"???

Don't just give us names, give us records and rankings.

Just in case you've conveniently "forgotten", Utah fans whined incessantly about the Utes deserving the opportunity to play for the 2004 national championship.

The same ridiculous bowl system that denied BYU the opportunity to prove itself against a more worthy 1984 bowl opponent, gave U Pittsburgh in 2004.

BYU fans have been campaigning for a playoff since 1984. Utah fans briefly joined that campaign in 2004, then quickly abandoned it as soon as the Utes were invited to the PAC 12.

U have NO CREDIBILITY when it comes to arguing the "fairness" of "backing into a championship".

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

Uteology

Typical, frantic attempt by you to distort the argument by dragging CONFERENCE opponents into the argument.

Just like USC and Oregon have any control over playing Utah in football, BYU doesn't have any control over playing Portland and Pepperdine in basketball.

As stated in the accompanying article, Utah's OOC schedule was rated a "1" on a scale of 1 to 10 (with 1 being the absolute worst), by ESPN. BYU's OOC schedule was rated a "9".

Utah's first opponent was so far off the charts, the game won't even count in the RPI rankings.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

What a shocker that we're being subjected to more selective rankings from Uteology.

After all is said and done; after all of the discussion; after all of the hyperbole; here's the only thing that's relevant and counts when it comes to rankings.

Final National Rankings

#1/#1 BYU 1984
#5/#5 BYU 1996
#4/#5 Utah 2004
#2/#4 Utah 2008

Bottom line: BYU 1984 impressed enough voters to be selected #1

SportsCenter
Olympus Cove, Utah

DeepBlue

I did notice one common opponent from Utah's 1944 and 2012 schedules, Idaho State, one of only two college teams Utah played during the entire 1944 regular season.

A precursor of things to come for Utah in 2012?

Only if 2012 indeed marks the end of the world ;)

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

SSmith, it's obvious you don't know Jordan or his goals or motivation. Don't use words like "surely" when you have no clue.

SSmith
Salt Lake City, UT

StGtoSLC

I'm surely sure of it. Any competitor would want to compete. Why would any competitor want to play Utah's pre-season schedule?

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