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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 13 2012 11:45 a.m. MST

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Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

I thought Huntsman was a good governor, but lost respect for him when he ran his campaign like he didn't take it seriously.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

The comments means one thing, no one knows what the Republican party is. The republicans think of people (citizens) as subjects to be exploited by taxing them and giving their taxation to private business to guarantee cheap labor and low wage jobs. They have to put citizens (tax payers) first, not business or foreign nationals.

The Republicans need to redirect their values, adopt Tea Party attitudes. The people are the voters and electorate, business follow the people and the Republicans try to force people into undesirable jobs. Bribing business for hopes of tax revenue is a waste of time in jobs and revenue when the job/wages are funded by welfare tax. Exploiting the people (citizens) to fund private business is wrong and illegal.

Rep's lose elections because the Republicans exploit the people for business and the rich, and a threat to the welfare state of government dependents they created. Peoples incomes are the real economy, not business profits. One person paying income and sales tax does more for the economy than 100,000 welfare dependents and freeloader foreign nationals.

AmPatriot
Taylorsville, UT

The people have given up hope of working for a living because the Republicans turned off the lights and closed a lot of doors with cheap shot tactics to exploit the workers with lost incomes and wages. The republicans expect people to live outside their means with debt and indentured servitude which is unsustainable for workers and prosperity. Prosperity is not debt and never will be.

They need to convert their policies to conform to free enterprise, free will, free choice, better pay, no welfare, and protect the citizens from business exploitation rather than be the problem of exploiting workers for profit. Establish profit and workers share programs and laws so all can benefit from the growth and prosperity that it will bring.

Selfish greed must be terminated and obligation and care for the workers should be the duty of business, big and small. Workers have a right to equality in shared profits of business, there is more of their blood and sweat making a company or factories prosper than the owners or stock holders exploiting their services and driving Rolls Royce's.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The GOP should listen, but they won't. It's a party that appeals to the lowest common denominator in our nation. Watch as the crazy right rears its head again and the Republicans will think they can exploit it to get ahead. In the end, they will fail.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Based on the comments here, I think this begs the question what does it mean to be a Republican. I know about 8 years ago I knew when I was no longer aligned with the party as driven by Dick Cheney. I loved the frank talk of Alan Simpson. He let you know when he disagreed with ya. But Simpson never tried to define what kind of Republican others could be. Cheney and team changed all that.

We now see that progression continue. The claims the Huntsman isn't republican enough show that the party is becoming an ever tighter, less inclusive party. Gone is the Big Tent party of Reagan. It seems doomed to continue down the path of being the party of angry while males.

We've seen this crowd before.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

I gotta hand it to you conservatives. A candidate like Huntsman would OWN the middle in a national race, yet he is soundly rejected by the Republican base.

I guess the reason Romney lost is because his is not conservative enough, maybe you should put up Rick Santorum, against Hillary in 2016, and see how that works out.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Spoken like a true Trust Fund kid who wants to spend everyones money but his own. Jon Boy, give up all your money you got from Dad, get a real job for real wages, then you can have this talk with us.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Chuckle at the comments suggesting Huntsman and other Republicans should be more like Reagan. Check the history, Reagan may have talked liked a conservative but he was as moderate as Huntsman. In 5 out of his 8 budgets the democratically controlled congress actually spent less than he requested. Federal spending as a percent of GDP was pretty close to today's "socialist" administration. Deficits sky rocketed under him as well. Reagan supported immigration reform. The list goes on. Reagan could give a speech but it was lip service. Conservatives today would be as excited with Reagan as they are with Huntsman. Read your history instead of getting it spoon fed by talk radio.

raybies
Layton, UT

I love huntsman's approach.

Shelama
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Huntsman may have avoided the names but let's be honest about the people who handed this election to Obama: Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc, et.al.

This election should have been a slam-dunk landslide for the Republicans and would have been had there been a half-way decent candidate from a half-way responsible republican party. The narrow Democratic victory only goes to show how relatively few people the over-the-top, angry, snarling, warped, snarky, demonizing RSM rhetoric has to alienate. But it still should have been a landslide!

Look no further back than the unbelievable Republican primary circus: who and what drove that disastrous bunch of candidates? Huntsman alone was not tainted by Tea Party/birther craziness or the blatant need to pander to them (à la the flip-flopping Mitt Romney). And how was the craziness induced, aided and abetted to such irrational and un-Godly proportions? How did the Republicans end up with so many low-information, gullible voters controlling their primaries?

People may have been disappointed in Obama (8 million fewer voters than in 2008) but they saw the Republicans as crazy and those 8M did not vote for Romney.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

@george
There's no "fine tuning" something like the immmigration plank of the platform.
Huntsman's view is akin to blue dog democrats and was exposed in the GOP debates earlier this year. He's hardly a standard bearer for the party.
His brand of politics might be palatable for some, but it's far from the mainstream GOP, even while they are licking their wounds.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Henry Drummond

Fox News is the only news I watch or trust. Stopped watching CNN 4 years ago when I saw how they provided shameful cover for Barack. The other so-called news organizations are nothing but lap dog media propaganda cheerleaders for Barack Obama. So Henry - what do you watch? MSNBC maybe followed by the Bill Maher show?? Just wondering.

runnerguy50
Virginia Beach, Va

Huntsman is a democrat. Huntsman will run as a democrat in the next election. Huntsman ran as a liberal republican to make Romney look bad. The idea that someone leaves the Obama adminstration runs as a republican and then goes back to the Obama admin shows us Huntsman had orders from the Obama camp. Its laughable that others including the media dont see it.

runwasatch
Ogden, UT

"Sell out, hand out, and divide just to get elected" is the methodology and vision of Huntsman. We already have a party that has that mastered, don't we Mr. Dubakis!

nhprman
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If Gov. Huntsman had not hinted, during the campaign, that he would basically roll over and not stand up to China, I would have been a huge supporter. As it stood, his statements were grossly naive and I think he was blinded by his close association with China to reverse the horrendous damage that "free" trade with slave wage nations has done to our economy.

jimmy5804
Draper, UT

I'd give max donation to Huntsman and probably even some time. I'm practically desperate for a middle-right candidate.

kargirl
Sacramento, CA

Gov. Huntsman seems to think that some tweaking in the message may have changed the outcome of the election and allowed a different outcome. Don't think so, with all due respect. The candidate would have been just as diluted in message and just as unable to be honest to his would-be electorate or straightforward in plans, and just as disdainful of the poorest of this nation's citizenry--as we saw from his post-election commentary--as ever. It wouldn't have helped. This is the party that saw Mr. Huntsman as a traitor to its cause because he chose to accept a position for which he was preeminently qualified under a Democratic administration as a declaration of party loyalty instead of country loyalty as it was. If Romney had been a Democrat, he would have lost this election, too. It was not his party, it was his message.

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