There never was a "Mormon Event." It is sad that Latter-day Saints
would consider a failed political campaign the most significant contribution to
world history. Can't you do better than that?
When did the LDS church seek to gain the praise of man? The Mormon Moment
isn't a presidential campaign, it's the good deeds done by members all
over the world--done for the simple fact that it is the right thing to do, not
done to gain praise from the politically powerful or to be in the spotlight.When did the Church's focus become being accepted by the national
media? I believe the First Presidency has always taught that the church's
focus is following the teachings of Christ. This PR campaign needs to end.
I think Mormons (as any demographic) need to look past the fact that a
Presidential candidate is "one of them" and focus on the man himself. I
don't feel Romney was a very good candidate because of his flip-flops, his
disparagement of "the 47%", and other reasons.The people who
cost him the election did not vote against him because he was Mormon. I doubt
very much that Latinos, young people, etc. would have held his Mormonism against
him if he'd reflected their values. But he didn't.He lost
because he simply didn't represent as a candidate (not as a Mormon) what
the majority of people felt was important.Mormons can still see one
of their own become President. (I think Jon Huntsman would have had great
appeal to the demographics I've mentioned.) Romney opened the door to this
possibility. But next time, you'll need a much more populist candidate to
walk through that door.
oatmeal-aka-mush, I don't think any of us LDS think of Mitt Romney's
campaign as "failed". He brought a message of a better way of doing
things and he has the experience and success to back it up.Secondly, to
refer to his campaign as the most significant contribution to world history only
reflects your exaggeration of our prospective and a certain bitterness you have
with the religion.I remember a year or so ago some comments about
how no one ever heard of the LDS church outside of Utah, and that within 10
years the church would dwindle into further obscurity until it simply ceased to
exist.I would suggest that person tell that to the thousands of new
missionaries with their papers being put in as we speak :)
@AZRods"I would suggest that person tell that to the thousands of new
missionaries with their papers being put in as we speak "Not a
good example, because those new missionaries are only missionaries right now
because the church changed the age requirements for it. Let's stick to just
the simple fact that the church is growing (not as fast as the membership
numbers would suggest since it doesn't adequately remove the inactives and
those who left but didn't bother to go through the process of name removal,
but it's still growing nonetheless as evidenced by the growth in number of
wards and branches, which I think is the best way to measure growth since it
accounts for inactivity).
I strongly believe in the old adage "that truth is never so evident as when
it is compared to error." All the Mormons need to do is to explain and the
good will rise to the top. What we do not need is to be portrayed as right wing
Conjecture and speculation, whether by "experts," members, or the
general public, have never before nor ever will affect or reflect the actual
trajectory of the church. But it's still interesting to watch the dialog.
Outside of utah, I don't think there ever was a mormon 'moment'.
The nation has gotten caught up in all things Vanna White. Or Austrailian. Or
Kardashian. Or Trump. Or Oat Bran. Mormonism has never risen to the level of
interest of any of these. Maybe mormons should be happy about that.
Mr. Romney decided to run for President despite being a Mormon. I am very glad
he did, because that helped to dispel some myth and re-inforce some truth about
the LDS church.I think Mr. Romney passed the test and congratulate
him. He was a Republican candidate not a Mormon one.I think many
members failed the test because they as the article says, were proud that one of
their own was on the track for the presidency, and voted not for the Republican
or political andidate but because he was a Mormon. Like criticizing Blacks for
voting for President Obama.I hope that the lesson that Mr. Romney
learned and I hope the Church does as well, is that when he spoke as was a
moderate he was able to reach the masses.
Personally I believe The "Mormon Moment" has actually gained much
momentum with the election but it isn't about politics. It is about the
Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not be ashamed, scared or shy
about our beliefs. Do we really think that the calling of missionaries now at
18 for a young man and 19 for a young woman is by any chance a mere coincidence.
More people than ever know about us and we are now in a position to let people
know what it means to be a Latter Day Saint. We have the opportunity to open
our mouths about the Restoration more now than ever.
Mormon Moment is over. The extra missionaries will not flood the streets after a
Romney win since he lost. However there will be less member attrition in that
age range since so many more will become missionaries.
There never was a "mormon moment".It was a media
creation.The way I take it "Mormon mMoment" is just when a
there is a leap ni public awarenessw and recognition of mormons and
mormonism.So there is not "the mormon moment" just a
Things that need to be done..An LDS president of the united states ( who
upholds the values of the church, unlike the previous guy)A women
presidentThen the circle will be complete.
The "Mormon Moment" may be ending, but the return of Jesus Christ is
just beginning. While some may revere the name of a political figure, every knee
shall soon bow, and every mouth confess the name of Jesus Christ as Lord.
This is ridiculous. Do these so called "experts" have nothing more to
talk about than this drivel? Life goes on, world problems exist, problems in
our nation exist. Let's focus on finding solutions rather than sitting
around debating the "Mormon Moment".
While many LDS members acted as Jesus would like us to, I am still putting out
fires from some fellow LDS members who felt that it was right and justified to
say terrible and racist things on social media and out loud at members of my
non-LDS extended family. It is not OK.I feel the Lord will hold us
accountable for all the people we bring to and drive away from the Gospel with
our self righteousness and pride in the name of politics. The Gospel is not
political but some chose to make it so, very sad.
RE: Ldsironrodder: Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. …That unto me every knee shall
bow, every tongue shall swear (Is 45:22-23) .…every knee
shall soon bow, and every mouth confess the name of Jesus Christ as Lord.(Phil 2:10—11) Paul takes the O.T. passage and in clear
terms of the majesty and the oneness of God and applies it directly to
Jesus, who he refers to as Lord).
Romney lost because he didn't promise "free stuff" like Obama did.
Which just proved that a principled man cannot be elected any longer, sadly for
America. At least the world got to see what a really good and decent man looks
like. That helped the LDS Church a lot. BTW, for the author, our religion is not
a young one... it goes back to Adam & Eve.
It was more than a "mormon moment", only time will tell the impact of
the 2012 presidential race on the LDS faith or people in general.
OatmealNobody I know thinks the Romney campaign was our most
significant contribution to world history. Odd that you would even offer
that.Hutterite,There certainly was significant interest
in the LDS community here and in other areas we have friends and family.
Perhaps less so in Utah.
Just getting started
Prediction: The last four years, America shot its self in the foot for not
giving ear to Romney. This time America has shot its leg off by not electing
Mitt Romney - as the next four years will reveal.
It is not uncommon for Europeans to not know the difference between Mormons,
Jehovah's Witnesses and (sometimes) even the Amish. It is very helpful for
members here to be able to point to a well known person, such as Mitt Romney or
Brandon Flowers, and say "He's also a member of my Church". That
way the person you're talking to replaces his/her mental image of a fanatic
in 19th century clothing (and that is, unfortunately, the way some people think
of us) with the image of a normal person doing a normal job in a normal way,
whether that job is in politics, entertainment, or any other area.
I don't know of another group that is so obsessed with their public image,
and so occupied with attention seeking, than the LDS Church and its members...
My whole life has been a Mormon Moment... still alive, still kicking... so no,
the moment's not over for me. :)
@Captain Green"Romney lost because he didn't promise "free
stuff" like Obama did."Nonsense, he promised a shiny new 20%
across the board tax cut without ever showing the math as to how he'd pay
for it. Now you conservatives are angry about the fiscal cliff because, surprise
surprise deficit reduction (what the fiscal cliff is since it cuts the deficit
in half) actually affects you, and now suddenly you want no part of it. You all
are definitely looking for free stuff and that is absolutely what Romney
The "fascination" with the Mormon Church is over but the Romney
candidacy did help move the Church out of the "oddity" column and into
the mainstream. That said, IMHO the Church can fulfill its mission much better
without the glare of a attention on a Mormon in the white House. So Romney has
done the Church two large favors: He won the nomination then lost the election.
To "Captain Green" it is worse than that. Romney told people that they
had to work to get out of poverty. People don't like to hear that, they
would rather hear that they can't do it on their own.
What exactly is a mormon moment and who are these experts ?
I think it was good that the Church was pretty much ignored during the final
phase of Romney's candidacy. His campaign in general, and he in
particular, was viewed by many as being "mendacious". Given
Romney's church leadership role, what did his mendacious approach, plus his
clearly patrician attitude, affect the non Mormon view of the Church? There
were even some who questioned Romney's moral character stemming from
certain campaign distortions.