Fascinating... Everyone screams that the County should cut... But, the County
has cut for the past 4 years. You can only cut so much and then everything
collapses. Wow, what a concept.
Welcome to 1930's and the depression. Government does not believe in
cutting back or shutting down waste, they put too much value on government and
not enough value on trust in the people. We don't need this kind of
organized criminal government that puts its self interests above the rights and
independence of citizens.The people are the government and we can do
just fine without any oversight by the kind of government leaders that think it
is more important than the people. Revolt is the only cure to come from this
kind of King George oppression and taxation without representation.The people can revoke government leaders but they cannot revoke our rights and
thank you SG in SLC. Enjoy your pay going back to pre recession rates. I know I
will do the same.....oh wait, mine is still lower. But I'm happy to pay for
[Disclosure: I work for the Salt Lake County Mayor's budget office]I really need to address the 17.5% number to describe the increase --
the State Tax Commission requires the County to advertise it that way, because
the County's property tax revenue would increase 17.5%, but your property
tax bill wouldn't go up 17.5%. Your property tax bill would only go up
3-4% due to the proposed increase. For a home valued at $238,000 (average in
the County), it would increase about $64 per year.Announcing the
proposed tax increase before the election would have absolutely tainted the
races for County office. The candidates for mayor and the council positions up
for election would have been forced to focus exclusively on the tax increase and
not address other issues, and would have to make ill-informed promises regarding
it.Finally, property taxes DON'T go up in total when property
values go up. When property values rise, property tax rates go down (and vice
versa) to yield the same amount of aggregate property tax revenue to the County.
Meanwhile, general inflation erodes the purchasing power of those property tax
revenues year after year.
It was incredibly cowardly to wait until just after the election for the
announcementI do not have the extra money - if the alternative is to
cut county services - fine - do it
Property values will continue to rise as the recession begins to wane.
That's where any additional funds should come from. Utah property values
generally rise more than the national CPI index, providing a windfall to County
coffers, especially since Utah wages always are below national averages. If
voters' property values have diminished, then County expenditures should do
likewise.Remember DeeDee Corradini raising the water costs
exponentially because of the drought? Did the monthly charges go down after the
dought ended? Dream on!
This is how Democrats do it. Outgoing Corroon makes the recommendation. Incoming
Ben MacAdams takes off a little, and passes it at the beginning of his term.
MacAdams certainly knew Corroon was going to propose this. And, he as new county
mayor, what can he say to disagree with 'veteran' Corroon.Fortunately, I don't live in Salt Lake County anymore. But six of my
seven siblings do. And my youngest sister has kept me informed how much, over
the years, Democrats, because they have prevailed with mostly Democrat voters in
more liberal Salt Lake Valley, have raised expenditures very high. No wonder
they're at a fiscal cliff.This is why I learned a long time ago
that spendthrift Democrats are not to be trusted. I don't give a spits
worth of difference if MacAdams teaches Sunday School or has 4 kids, and drives
an SUV or whatever. MacAdams ought to show he is TRULY FRUGAL, and push &
vote for NO TAX INCREASE. Spending rises to meet available funds, and then some.
This is what & will happen in SL County if taxes are raised. But, MacAdams
will feign frugality, trim the increase a little and call it 'good'!
We cannot be fooled into thinking that giving the government more money will
"fix" anything. It decreases our freedom and makes us more and more
"dependent" upon the government.Make the cuts - yes, even
the hard ones. When the economy turns around, open the rec centers and use this
as a wonderful example to our children that we must be realistic - when the
economy is down, we have less government services, and that is how it should be.
When things are going well with the economy, we can choose to use those funds
for things like rec centers.I really don't like the idea of
rehiring those that were laid off. Those lay-offs were a proper response to
decreased revenues (our tax money). They should not be viewed as something that
should be restored UNLESS the tax revenues can support it. Certainly a tax
increase makes NO sense. Ben, good luck. Don't get fooled or intimidated.
This should wait until you have a year under your belt before even considered.
@tabunoA 1.5% increase every year would make more sense than to wait
over a dozen years and then hit everyone with a whopper. But that's not the
way politicians do business; never has been and likely never will be. I'll bet they have proposed 17+%, hoping to get around 8 - 10% and then
everyone will feel warm and fuzzy that the increase was pared to a reasonable
level and those who helped cut it back will be seen as fiscal heros.And what about the big new "future parks bond" that just passed,
without the financial ability to maintain the parks currently in the system?
(Of course the Des News opined that such was a smart move.)I tell
you, voters get hood-winked by politicians every time they turn around. Maybe
bankruptcy is what the city, county, state and country need to realize that thet
golden goose can only lay so many golden eggs....
What else has gone up 17.5%? My income - no. My property value - no. A 17.5%
improvement in services - no. Inflation - no. How about the size of government?
No Property Tax Increase in 13 years. Well, the first year in office McAdams
has a great opportunity to balance the County budget and make difficult
political decisions. As hard as a tax increase might be, it really may be the
problem of the bloated national government, not local government. America has
been leaving on debt spending, with Republican tax cuts tool long without a
corresponding cut in spending. With the fiscal cliff coming, it's about
time America faced up to its financial responsibilities NOW not later. Coroon
is handing McAdams a good opportunity to get Salt Lake County's finances in
order, by waiting, it will be too late. This is what Congress has done for too
long beginning with Ronald Reagan when he cut taxes but not enough federal
spending and then both Democrats and Republicans followed suit.
Now how does everyone feel that voted for the candidate that Corroon was pushing
to take his place and that won the election?Isn't politics and
its little nuances just wonderful? You wouldn't let your teenager get away
with such stuff......
Government will NEVER have the resources it wants, or "needs." If you
ask any government agency why they aren't doing the job they're
supposed to do, they always tell you it's because they just don't have
the funding and staffing they need. If you give them more, they will still
fail, and will keep telling you they just need a little more funding to do the
job. This cycle is unending, and will never stop. Because a government agency
has no competition, they'll ALWAYS operate based on pure politics, and they
will NEVER have the money they want.
How about we restore all of the publics salaries to pre recession levels and
increase our benefits also... oh wait, that is only for the select government
employees that seem to live in a bubble where money has no meaning. Let's
restore the salaries based upon the recovery that has occurred. If the average
family is making less then the government employees should make less. If we are
all making more, then they should make more also. This is strange that it comes
up right after the election, maybe McAdams wouldn't have been elected,
didn't Corroon endorse Ben? This would have changed my vote. Just keep
taxing until we all are below poverty, except the government workers, they put
forth a little more effort.
Spend, spend, spendbarack would be proud.
I cannot afford a 17.5% tax increase. The Democrat answer to everything is
raise taxes. No wonder they have a problem gaining traction in Utah. Pass a
tax increase like that and stick it to McAdams right at the beginning of his
term. He won't recover from that!!!