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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 7 2012 7:37 p.m. MST

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JWB
Kaysville, UT

Congress cannot take away the benefits without going through and large and very detailed process and states have similar processes. The President cannot take away entitlements or perceived entitlements without a similar process with Congress. People elect their Representatives and Senators, state and nationally. This country has such an indepth process that is guaranteed for our country to survivie.

The various subgroups in both parties should communicate better. Fear isn't a good tactic to use but it is used by both parties to gain votes. However, the tactics put fear and trepidation into people's hearts and souls that they will lose something and not be able to live.

Having lived in plenty countries that don't have the system that ours has to guarantee people's common defense and general welfare, they get by generally. Europe has had a process that led them down to a REAL financial crisis and they are dealing with it.

However, for the United States of America to deal with their financial issues which will help social issues succeed as a general rule, we have to have a budget and decisions made.

Congress takes away people's efforts and a President giving everything.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Romney. Here is the truth.
We live in a world of lazy people, who can't and don't want to work.
They want a free ride. You or any other repubs will never win election again.
Food stamps, and free health care for all.
It's nuts.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

Re: Nuschler1

You do realize that George Romney may well have been knocked out of the presidential race because of his opposition to the Vietnam War, right?

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The Eagle Forum and Tea Party maybe have done some good but I sort of relate the Tea Party also was sort of like a Ross Perot for the Republicans in 1992 when 15 percent would have made a difference. Alliances can be good but our country cannot stall out for another 4 years.

Congress has to do a budget and the Senate has not done their part for 3 years and that is a bad aspect of borrowing money on borrowed time. The President couldn't not even work with his own Democratic House and Senate with kindness and working together. He needs to learn to be diplomatic and not speak down to them either.

The other night he spoke about learning something during this process of campaigning and 4 years of being negative in his mannerisms and policies. He needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

His leadership is supported by the people dancing in Chicago. He needs to look at all states and see that it isn't pitting one class and race against another.

This country is the best in the world and we cannot have a stalemate, even within his party for 4 more years.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

Re:BobF

You see what you want to see.

I knew Mitt Romney as a fellow church member.

Here is what I saw...

I saw an incredibly bright, well educated, good intentioned, honest man.

I saw a man willing to give up two years of his life in volunteer service in a time of life that most men and women live very self-centric lives.

I saw a man give up ten years of personal time to be a spiritual shepherd and friend to a vast array of people from the poorest to the wealthiest.

I saw a man that was willing to come to Utah and apply his success formula to an ailing Olympics for no compensation.

I saw a man that served as a governor in an incredibly hostile political environment with great dignity and cooperation, again for no compensation.

I saw a man that invested and grew 70% of the enterprises his company invested in. Quite a track record for a venture capital company.

I saw a man that had to overcome a highly polarized and difficult primary process in order to represent a party, with dignity, because he cared.

Thanks Mitt!

oldcougar
Orem, UT

So many of you, most of whom have never run for office, are so quick to drink the negative Kool-Aid about Romney. Enough of spiking the ball in the end zone. You won. Now go enjoy your government handouts. This election was about "stuff" I get from the govt, whether it's Pell grants, food stamps, extended unemployment income, whatever...and which candidate was least likely to make cuts in the free stuff. You all chose Obama, even though we can't afford to keep giving everyone the stuff. Unfortunately we have reached a critical mass of takers...too few producers. We even have Republican strategists now talking about how their party needs to "evolve" with the rest of the country. Wow...I never thought I'd see this day. And, you talk about Romney's lies: Did Harry Reid ever reveal his reliable source who said Romney hadn't paid taxes for 10 years? Did anyone ever admit that Romney had left Bain 10 years before the lady died of cancer who was featured the Obama attack Ad? Do any of you realize Romney pays capital gains tax, so his lower rate is legal, not because he cheats?

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

This election had nothing to do with Romney being on a mission during the war.
This election has to do with lazy people with video game addictions.
Also, people are jealous of people with money.
Cause there lazy.

Tiger5
Cache county, USA

Esquire
Springville, UT
Don't kid yourself. Even his election night gathering was an elitist affair. The man has no clue about the middle class and how most Americans deal with life's difficulties. He was Thurston Howell, III all the way through the end.

I would rather hear Thurston Howell III speak, then Malcolm x

Nuschler1
Atlanta, GA

To JWB who said: "If you give more entitlements and benefits to people, who are just like the sea gulls waiting for the ship to throw off their garbage, they will lose their desire to go out and work for their food and shelter."

I have always respected my bishops for their empathetic, compassionate working with the poor. A family can become bankrupt from ONE medical crisis. Insurance companies have simply taken away coverage from these people. In fact 50% of ALL bankruptcies in America are due to a medical crisis that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I have patients who have worked hard their entire life who now have ALS..Lou Gehrig's disease. A disease without a known cause that slowly paralyzes you including your breathing muscles. A slow horrific death...Are these people seagulls fighting over garbage? Losing their desire to every work again?

Children born with autism, Trisomy 18, congenital heart defects, multiple sclerosis, muscular dystrophy all horrible afflictions. You think they can work?

A mother of four loses her husband to a random killing (let's say the Aurora killings)...she is a seagull looking for an easy life? Where are your moral principles, JWB?

suzyk#1
Mount Pleasant, UT

Hopefully some day our Country will again be led by a man such as Mitt Romney. Our Country starves for true and honest leadership and we would have been given that with Mitt. I can't imagine the disappointment Mitt's team is feeling right now..we are so sad this good, righteous and humble man was not elected. Hopefully someday the world will be ready and willing to hear the truth and we can all feel more hope in our future.

byufootballrocks
Herndon, VA

It's interesting and sad to see the stereotypes and character attacks aimed at Mitt Romney still coming from Obama supporters on this board even after the election has been won. You see, you have to have a bogeyman to justify keeping someone in office who has such an abysmal record, and a false caricature to justify turning away someone that you know would be a great leader.

The reality is that you have been duped. Duped by one billion dollars spent by vicious politicians trashing the character and reputation of a man who's entire life has proven to be one of service to others, character and integrity.

If the president had a record to run on, do you think the emphasis would have been on persuading people to run away from Romney?

Someone said, "A person never reveals his own character as obviously as when he is describing the character of another."

I take great offense at the character attacks on this great and good man. He does care about everyone, and has proven that by his very life.

While it is true that 50 million people voted for Obama, 48 million people disagree with you about Mitt Romney.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Nuschler1
Atlanta, GA

Life isn't fair.
Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug.
That's life.

BigRich
Orem, UT

Nuschler1: People comment on Romney's lack of military service but fail to point out Obama's. People point out Romney's wealth but miss pointing out that Obama isn't hurting either. Both men earned their wealth. It wasn't given to them. One was just a lot better at creating it. One has been tremendously generous with his wealth, but no one notices that, and fails to notice Obama's total lack of charitable giving. Romnet's wealth has benefitted thousands. Obama's has benefitted only himself. You can check the facts on that if you're really interested in comparing acurately.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

Nuschler, no one is criticizing good people who need help...nor are we criticizing people who help them, voluntarily, like your bishop. I've been a bishop...I get that...it was a sacred time and it had nothing to do with politics. We are, of course, talking about folks who celebrate Obama's victories by squealing with joy, on television, about how they will no longer have to make their mortgage payment, about how much they will enjoy their "obamaphone," etc. I have a relative who had a child out of wedlock to preserve her eligibility for welfare payments and food stamps. Those are the folks we are talking about. It's not that complicated or that difficult to see. If we are believers, we are obligated to help each other. If we are progressives, we believe we are obligated to make sure it happens forcefully, through taxes. And, I'd rather have a bishop (whether LDS, Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostal, etc.)managing "welfare" resources than an inefficient, unfeeling, uncaring, disconnected government bureaucracy.

BobF
Kitchener, ON

To Grundle;
Just a few questions:
Where did you see his good intentions? When he was gutting companies and sending their hard-working employees to the unemployment line?
Where did you see his honesty? When he said he'd keep some provisions of the Affordable Care Act, and two days later said he'd repeal all of it? Or when he said Jeep was going to move it's production plant to China, even after the company said that that was an outright lie?
70% growth is very impressive; too bad he stomped on so many middle-class people, reducing them to poverty, to do it.
Regarding his service to the Church, he was an administrator on his mission, and one Stake Relief Society president who served with him when he was Stake President has publicly discussed his coldness and disdain for the poor and downtrodden.
The 'highly polarized' primary was one in which he had to switch many of his own positions (health care, abortion, gay rights, etc.). He was his own polarization.
I have seen nothing from Mr. Romney to demonstrate that he cares about anything but his own bottom line ($$$).

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

You all can continue these debates until you are blue - or red - in the face.

Scoreboard!

Obama is our President. Fact.

It doesn't matter anymore whether you like him or not. The voice of the people has been heard.

The relevant question now is, what are we going to do in the current situation to make America's future better?

If you have nothing to contribute in that regard, the you and your opinions are irrelevant.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

One more thing. I am so very tired of condescending lectures from democrats, especially those whom I know and love, implying only they have "moral principles" and that people with opposing political views are bereft of these principles. Again, this is not really a difficult concept: We have moral principles and we want to exercise them according to our own conscience. Many of us give much to the poor in time, effort, and money. We just don't want the government to administer our "goodness" and the exercise of our moral agency. We would certainly help the people you (Nuschler) are referring to as deserving. But I will pass on providing "stuff" to those who take every immoral measure to qualify for their "fair share" of it. I will not spend my time, effort or money to pay for contraception, for abortions, for government grants to pay for education my own kids can't afford. I could go on...

Badger55
Nibley, Ut

Old Cougar,
I just want to echo some of your comments. The majority of the people I speak with that voted for Obama cite everything you said. From getting their mortgage paid for to their food, their healthcare and even things like cell phones. All of them want the wealthy to pay more so they don't have to. They cite corporate greed, yet fail to realize their own. They have as much opportunity as anyone else in this country to make more money, but that is just too much work. Something is seriously wrong with our country.

"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built."
-Abraham Lincoln

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

obama groupies:
your boy won america lost. good luck. my flag will continue to hang at half-staff for the next four years.

rogerdpack2
Orem, UT

There's no shame in having the "end of your political career" being to lose a close battle for president of the US. Seriously that's basically almost the top of the top, as high as you can go. Kudos to Mitt, and hopefully in 4 years we'll get a real change.

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